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[Azthor]

Lol, Sheb tried to stay true and honest to his character, and it was stupid for him not to kill everyone apparently. So whats the point of playing someone whose not an assassin-happy lunatic, like you are did Azthor? At least my character would have dueled you to the death. It made no sense for a sane person to kill Roim after he led a mostly successful campaign, and would be enjoying popularity with the people and whats left of the army. Usually someone who assassinates a popular leader just burns the country down in a mass civil war.

Then again, can Ghaz really reset the game like that? I don't think so, and you know that too Azthor. Which is why you did this. I can't fault your tactics, but it's antithetical to my personality.

That's the problem with these sorts of games IMO.

Eventually the roleplayers lose to the metagamers. And everything gets boring. I hope I'm wrong about you.

Go ahead and disagree with me, but is there any reason you won't kill shoots new char as soon as he steps off the ship? Or have him in line to be killed immediately once he does something you don't like? You'll only really leave yourself open as much as you are perceived not to be cheating blatantly. Tell me I'm wrong.

Note, I have opposition to anything that actually happened in the game-I was already gone. I'm just opening a dialogue.

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Ninja Ghaz: Read above. Grow a thicker skin, yeah? And, I left this here game a long time ago for a reason. Don't take things so personally...man.

It is easy to RP and complain when someone makes a move if all gameplay advantages fall on your lap.

[Taricus]

Oh wow, a xenophile patriarch.

I wanna see how quickly Luthias gets excommunicated for his crusade

[Sheb]

Okay, first of all, Ghaz, Dragor, I want to apologize if I was passive-aggressive yesterday. Logging in and seeing "Poom. You're dead" was not much fun, no matter how many rolls were behind it, but it is no excuse for behaving in a unpolite fashion.

Azthor, I know the game was unfair to you. This game kinda lack the balance of power YaK has. That's why I lobbied OOC to expand your fief at the expense of mine and Aeverys' for exemple. That's also why I offered you IC to take over the army and carve yourself a fief out of Nova Barbaricum. As I said, I wasn't it to win, I was in to play, and an interesting game need opponents.

As things stand, you're an hegemon within House Nova. If you play to win, nothing can challenge you from within. Which is why I think the game will loose a lot of interest.

So yeah, as I said, you and I were playing different games. I should have noticed when you wanted to use OOC info (on the warheads the church got for exemple). ) But I didn't. So you won, congrats.

P.S. Ghaz', leaving my death aside, I do have a few issues with your GMing, which is (a minor) part of why I won't roll a new character (Which is sad, because I love the setting). We can talk about it on IRC sometimes if you want.

P.P.S. Also, Azthor, was killing all my troops part of your plan? Because that's actually rather smart. Oh, and where do the warheads come from? Leftover from the Church? Plant by Ardas? If it's sensitive, can you send me a PM?

[Ghazkull]

Warheads?

They were payment for Ravenwood for shipping the Warheads to the Church, and were also bound by a roll: after Ardas wanted to order the 100 or so warheads i rolled for transportation price and so on after all such a big deal cannot go unnoticed and might be sabotaged, incidentally most spionage rolls for Nova went awry while the transportation roll was a 6...and then i thought what could most possibly advantage Ardas with such a roll, additionally to a swift and secure transport, i thought it would be in his interest if the Enemies of Nova gained a trump up the sleeve. Of course i never intended those warheads to be used, IN the city or on the armies but just as a in case moment should Nova go WMD with the Cruiser on Ravenwood lands.

Issues with Gming

Fine by me. I'm in the IRc on the evenings anyway...

I should have noticed when you wanted to use OOC info (on the warheads the church got for exemple). ) But I didn't. So you won, congrats.

That might have been a mistake on mine and Dragors side. I am actually not sure anymore if Azthor got anything Pm wise (due to his position as Spymaster) and then again as far as i know the warhead was Dragors and my Idea due to bad rolls on giving up on the side of the rebels...so to make things short the Whole Warhead Thingy wasn't made or orchestrated by Azthor and just mere coincidence...


And finally seeing as this whole Spymaster Covert Ops thing seems to go completely Imba, i will make some changes on that on the more important side:

several assassins for hire will be taken out of the game due to completely being overpowered, the massive amounts of Cash Nova makes the guy a cheap boom-insta-death-machine and on another note informing people that they are about to assassinated, i think that is something that must be done, yes i know some people might use this for Metagaming but oh well, better then "Boom-You-Are Dead"

on the other hand: people please note that your Characters have Security Levels. These represent how many guys are guarding you. It might also be help ful if i release some info on the Assassins.

Those guys have generally 5 perks: Infiltration,Sneaking,Ranged Combat,Close-Quarters-Combat, Health.

In short: you can be assassinated anywhere by anyone. The higher your security level the more guards you have, if you want you can even arrange your security the way you want.

That comes a bit late, but before Roims Death i wasn't really aware of How powerful those assassins are against PC's.

[10ebbor10]

They're not that powerfull. It's just that they were a low cost, high risk, high reward thing.

Also, that's a great way to start a regency.

[Azthor]

I didn't use OOC knowledge on the warheads, I was keeping an assassin around for the first chance I got. The bombing was one such an opportunity. I did go out of my way to try and get rid of your loyal barbarian soldiers though.

[10ebbor10]

"Find a guard and have him escort me to Patriarch Azthor then wait until he agrees to see me."

Just a note, but the punctuation you're using implies that you're actually saying that. (As in in game out loud.)

[mesor]

I know.
I'm just deciding what to use for actions that I don't want rolled for so I used that one until I decide.

[Ghazkull]

You either Bold your Actions or you RP, there is nothing like "Actions i want written by the Gm but not rolled for"

[mesor]

I didn't want it written by you, Just wanted to pick something for actions different from what I use for speech.

[Sheb]

Azthor, I'm not speaking about my assassination anymore, I'm speaking about that time when Ardas got all the warheads and you were "Hey, that guy got all those warheads, we need to do something!" and I was like "Nope, it's OOC info, we don't know a thing so we cant do a thing!" and you were like "Screw that, he's getting a massive power boost, I don't mind metagaming to counter that."

[Sheb]

It was lying around here, so I guess, I could post it so it's not lost. Date may or may not be correst. EI stand for "Imperial Era" aka, before the Fall.

[Azthor]

Azthor, I'm not speaking about my assassination anymore, I'm speaking about that time when Ardas got all the warheads and you were "Hey, that guy got all those warheads, we need to do something!" and I was like "Nope, it's OOC info, we don't know a thing so we cant do a thing!" and you were like "Screw that, he's getting a massive power boost, I don't mind metagaming to counter that."

While worded differently, I do remember having that conversation with you in early October. What came out of it was I asking Ghaz for a Master of Intelligence roll to see if anything slipped through.

[Ghazkull]

Ah by the way, Sheb will be joining as CoGm taking care of Ebbor and Taricus.

[Dragor23]

And that's why, children, you shouldn't give an omnicidial spacehitlerbishop a lot of nukes and bio bombs.


At least Si'kar will be a nice planet for "training in hell"