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mavj96

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foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« on: November 11, 2012, 04:22:38 pm »

Does anyone know if dorfs level up foreign weapon skills? I am a newblord building a military and I'd greatly appreciate the knowledge if it's available.
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Re: foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2012, 04:23:20 pm »

Give a dwarf a whip, and they will get good at it like any other weapon given time and practice.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2012, 04:55:17 pm »

Give a dwarf a whip, and they will get good at it like any other weapon given time and practice.

Thank ya for the reply sir.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2012, 04:59:00 pm »

Same goes for daggers, which are awesome (not scourge=lightsaber awesome, but still pretty damn good)
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2012, 05:07:50 pm »

I'm thinking about a lasher squad now.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2012, 05:46:08 pm »

I'm thinking about a lasher squad now.
Aye mate, that idea sounds like a fine one to me as well.
Im thinking of converting my 10-Dwarf Furnace Squad into a Lasher Squad, so that in civilian mode they'll stay the same color.
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Re: foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2012, 06:37:15 pm »

Every weapon has a skill associated with it that trains with use. I may be mistaken, but I think it's even possible to add skills through the entity raws and associate weapons to those skills? Maybe not. You can at least associate modded-in weapons to existing weapon skills.

Literally the only issue I've seen with this is that some of the skills (I know "Knife User," not sure about other non-native weapons) won't display correctly in the Military screen when looking for potential soldiers. More specifically, if a position is assigned to use a dagger or other knife, and the dwarf has no Knife skills, the readout will show that they are "Not skilled," as opposed to "Not Axedwarf," "Not Speardwarf," etc.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 09:04:07 am »

In my longest running and most blated fortress I had a squads of almost every foreign weapon available. Sadly I couldn't get enough blowguns and darts to get a squad together.
I'll have to try to farm an underground civilization for their weaponry in a future fort.
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Re: foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2012, 01:08:18 pm »

Does anyone know if dorfs level up foreign weapon skills? I am a newblord building a military and I'd greatly appreciate the knowledge if it's available.

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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2012, 01:25:09 pm »

Every weapon has a skill associated with it that trains with use. I may be mistaken, but I think it's even possible to add skills through the entity raws and associate weapons to those skills?
No. Just those skills. You can associate weapon(and creature) attacks to non-military skills. By default, this is how picks use the Mining skill as a weapon skill.
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Re: foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2012, 03:36:12 am »

Can anyone tell me why some of my lasherdwarves became legendary lashers after 2-3 goblin kills?
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2012, 07:21:23 am »

Can anyone tell me why some of my lasherdwarves became legendary lashers after 2-3 goblin kills?

What was their skill level before the fight? Also, was the fight just few hits or were dozens of attacks involved?
The skill level raises per use, not per kill. That's why lots of people use arena and equip their dwarves with crappy weapons to maximize the amount of hits they must make before the target dies.
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Re: foreign weapon skills ?SCIENCE?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2012, 07:24:53 am »

Can anyone tell me why some of my lasherdwarves became legendary lashers after 2-3 goblin kills?

What was their skill level before the fight? Also, was the fight just few hits or were dozens of attacks involved?
The skill level raises per use, not per kill. That's why lots of people use arena and equip their dwarves with crappy weapons to maximize the amount of hits they must make before the target dies.

Plus lashers tend to cripple things, not kill them. So each target would get a lot of hits and suffer pain enough to fall over and pass out long before they bleeds out or is skullbroken.
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2012, 07:27:07 am »

They had no skill at lashing at all. I have a pitfall trap and released my mace- and lasherdwarves (each squad has 10 squaddies) on those surviving gobbos. Some dwarves were killed, but I managed to get 3 legendary lashers. How come? The battle didn't last long and there was no big increase in skill for the macedwarves.

This basically means that whips and scourges attack like a machinegun.
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