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[Necro991]

Version 0.40.1 is now on DFFD.  Mostly just bug fixes, tweaks and an FFID script for spell targeting.  Oh, and now orewood (which only shows up in Good surroundings) has a very low chance to drop star metal on smelting.  That should give a mild incentive to tolerate the complete lack of salvage in Good biomes.

The FFID script isn't a game changer on its own, but next on my list of things to do is an overhaul of the spell system.  With that, I can actually have buffing interactions that target fort allies only, or that can spread from enemy to enemy.  Mildly useful, to say the least.

For whatever reason, I'm having some issues with the mod. Some fonts work just fine, but the pony descriptions and some minor fonts keep getting replaced with symbols, making the whole thing illegible What do?

[thefriendlyhacker]

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For whatever reason, I'm having some issues with the mod. Some fonts work just fine, but the pony descriptions and some minor fonts keep getting replaced with symbols, making the whole thing illegible What do?

I *think* I might know what the problem is.

If you aren't using the Phoebus tileset, go into your DF installation and go to data/init/init.txt.  Find the lines that say:

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[WINDOWEDX:80]
[WINDOWEDY:25]
[FONT:Phoebus_16x16_text.png]
...
[FULLSCREENX:0]
[FULLSCREENY:0]
[FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16_text.png]
...

[GRAPHICS:YES]
[GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDX:0]
[GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_BLACK_SPACE:YES]
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Open up your graphics pack/tileset.  Find the data/init/init.txt file.  Find the corresponding lines in those files, and replace all the Phoebus fonts with the corresponding fonts in your set.  If you aren't using a graphics pack/tileset or if your graphics pack doesn't come with a different tileset then use the base DF fonts (given below for convenience).

Spoiler: base DF fonts (click to show/hide)

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[FONT:curses_640x300.png]
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[FULLFONT:curses_800x600.png]
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[GRAPHICS_FONT:curses_square_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:curses_square_16x16.png]
...

Tell me if this fixes your problem.  In any case, I will change the install readme to warn that this needs to be done for non-phoebus tilesets in the next release.

[PenguinMuster]

I hate to do this to you again but, it seems like making scrolls is not working. They take the sheets and the scroll rollers to the station and after they are done both of the items are gone but there is no scroll produced.

Edit:There is a error in DFHack that seems to be related to this. Would show a picture of the log but do not know how to insert images on this website.

[thefriendlyhacker]

I hate to do this to you again but, it seems like making scrolls is not working. They take the sheets and the scroll rollers to the station and after they are done both of the items are gone but there is no scroll produced.

Edit:There is a error in DFHack that seems to be related to this. Would show a picture of the log but do not know how to insert images on this website.

You are still on 0.40.0, right?  Cotton was called "cotton" in some places (including the plant definition) and "COTTON" in others, leading to...problems.  One of those problems is that the sheets dropped by MoI crates don't have a defined material in game (they will just be called "sheet" in your stocks screen, instead of "cotton sheet").  This leads to dfhack's item-trigger script throwing errors because it is referencing the material of a material-less item.  Given your problems, I would guess that it is also breaking the scroll making reaction.  Try making some cotton/synth-reed sheets via the vanilla reactions or buying sheets/parchment from caravans for your scroll making.  I *think* mat-less sheets should be OK for reverse engineering/data extraction where nothing inherits materials, but test it if you want to be sure.

Anyway, this was *mostly* fixed in 0.40.1.  There is still a minor bug in that dropped sheets are called "cotton plant sheets" instead of "cotton sheets" due to having a material subtype when they shouldn't, but that shouldn't have any meaningful impact in game.

[Kraiger]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

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For whatever reason, I'm having some issues with the mod. Some fonts work just fine, but the pony descriptions and some minor fonts keep getting replaced with symbols, making the whole thing illegible What do?

I *think* I might know what the problem is.

If you aren't using the Phoebus tileset, go into your DF installation and go to data/init/init.txt.  Find the lines that say:

Code: [Select]

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[WINDOWEDX:80]
[WINDOWEDY:25]
[FONT:Phoebus_16x16_text.png]
...
[FULLSCREENX:0]
[FULLSCREENY:0]
[FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16_text.png]
...

[GRAPHICS:YES]
[GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDX:0]
[GRAPHICS_WINDOWEDY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:Phoebus_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_BLACK_SPACE:YES]
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Open up your graphics pack/tileset.  Find the data/init/init.txt file.  Find the corresponding lines in those files, and replace all the Phoebus fonts with the corresponding fonts in your set.  If you aren't using a graphics pack/tileset or if your graphics pack doesn't come with a different tileset then use the base DF fonts (given below for convenience).
[spoiler=base DF fonts]

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[FONT:curses_640x300.png]
...
[FULLFONT:curses_800x600.png]
...
[GRAPHICS_FONT:curses_square_16x16.png]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENX:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLSCREENY:0]
[GRAPHICS_FULLFONT:curses_square_16x16.png]
...

Tell me if this fixes your problem.  In any case, I will change the install readme to warn that this needs to be done for non-phoebus tilesets in the next release.
[/quote][/spoiler]

I tried this using the Stained Glass texture pack, however, I'm under the impression that I am running into the same sort of error that Necro is.

Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/nVYoZf3

[thefriendlyhacker]

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I tried this using the Stained Glass texture pack, however, I'm under the impression that I am running into the same sort of error that Necro is.

Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/nVYoZf3

I downloaded stained glass and had a quick play around with two installs of DF, one with the mod, one without.  The only significant difference in settings besides graphics sprites being enabled is that the mod data/init/init.txt file has TRUETYPE:YES, while the other has TRUETYPE:24. AFAICT this means that a modded install will always force true type font, while a vanilla+dfhack install will only use true type font when the text size is >= 24 pixels high, which in practice is when you are using a 24x24 or 32x32 tileset.  If you don't like true type font being on, you can toggle it in game with F12, or you can just change the init file.

[Hexatona]

Awesome, glad to see this was resuscitated!

[thefriendlyhacker]

Awesome, glad to see this was resuscitated!

Good timing on the thread bump.

0.41.0 is now up.

Really, really big things:
- updated to DF 44.11
- massive overhaul of magic system - 9 spells in each school, or 45 total
- sver's combat overhaul mats, more leather mod and my own tweaks(notably, sane melting points for fat) have been integrated into the mod
- griffons now have several castes that specialize in certain areas of combat.

Spoiler: full change log (click to show/hide)

0.41.0
major changes
- updated to DF 44.11
- massive overhaul of magic system - 45 spells, 90 spells if including variations of the same spell
- spell readout reaction to announce spells available to a pony (through arcane terminal)
- MAS terminal and MAS gemcutters cut completely - arcane buildings handle everything now
- sver's combat overhaul mat changes integrated into mod - no more glass spinal cords
- more leather mod integrated - lots of leather/parchment from large creatures
- fire resistance of creatures altered radically - fat melts at a much higher temperature, heat damage occurs at a much lower temperature.  Net result is that creatures die from melted fat induced blood loss far less, but can take burn damage while still surviving.
- cut reloading bench and electronics, all reactions rolled into bowyers and workbench respectively
- many reactions now use forge weapon/armor/bowyer instead of everything using mechanics.  In general, only complex non-firearm mechanical weapons use mechanics
- griffons now have several castes, each dedicated to a certain specialization (polearms, ranged, leadership etc)

minor tweaks
- baked goods reactions cut completely - they are buggy, weird and crash inducing (seriously, making dough caused a crash a short time later unless all dough was autodump -destroy'd)
- added a body part for spellcasting attached to horn, similar to TK parts
- smelting of star metal alloys now done in prism smelter
- battery recharging does not require alchemy, and is done at any of the power talisman based industrial buildings, x5 recharge cut
- minor tweaks to some clothing/armor
- renamed a bunch of creature classes (magic_novice->unicorn_pony etc) and added classes for griffons and hellhounds, included classes in appropriate equipment syndromes
- changed pony scout (aka thief) sprite, added messenger sprite
- arcane terminal cut, stable tec terminal used instead
- alicorns and hellhounds can use drug injectors etc (they probably still can't wear them though unless you can get one to apply for citizenship).  Reaction/item syndromes in general should work on them when appropriate.
- bowyer renamed to gunsmith in pony/griffon skill descriptions
- seeds are now cookable
- added seed drops to plant burning, poppies can be burnt
- healing rate tweaks for some tissues
- several heal transformations done by script now
- black opals added as a C3 gem
- Power armor strength buffed, calibration gem and related reactions cut
- values of several weapon component tools reduced to something sane
- chain weapon velocity nerfed, attack speed buffed
- Little Macintosh buffed, now made of stellarite
- burning trash reactions now take a single item at a time, and don't require skill
- cut unused sheets from MAS extraction
- autoresetgrid added as an optional script because why not
- added refurbish AMR reactions
- grinding produces 4 sand per run
- cut wood burning reaction - wood is plentiful enough now that 1 ash per log is acceptable (as opposed to pre-multitile trees)

bug fixes
- fixed erronious instructions in setup guide - it now mentions how to deal with tilesets and such
- fixed cotton sheets from salvage not being quite the right type of cotton (was structural, is now thread)
- added no hospital to a bunch of syndromes
- fixed poppy mats in chem lab reaction
- fixed broken energy lance manufacture and refurbish reactions
- lots of tidying up and separating of stuff, including dfhack .init stuff and entities
- error in repair mil robot fixed
- ffid doesn't constantly execute itself, functions just recalled internally
- fixed missing reset policy arg in reaction trigger permitted args
- removed dupe pony stable graphics from pony file
- fixed erronious slave descriptions
- removed unusable corn growths
- changed processed orewood name to deal with odd naming
- fixed rehab/enslave reaction using //target instead of //target_id
- fixed paralyze amulet syn in equip trigger

Feedback on spells would be welcome - I haven't done much testing on a lot of them, so there are probably balancing issues.  Let me know if anything is too weak/ridiculously strong/buggy and broken.  Particularly Crimson Gift (conjuration school, adept sanguimancy) - I don't know if it even works, let alone if it is balanced for an adept level effect.

In the near future (within the next week), I am going to get a bunch of guide stuff written up. When that is ready, I will probably start a new thread so I can have control of the OP (and so I can reserve the first half dozen posts for guides).  In the meantime, people will have to make due with basic information from the old guide, plus a quick writeup on my changes.

Spells work fairly similarly to how they did before, with a few major exceptions:

• Apprentices in the old FoE are now School Adepts, Adepts are now School Masters, Magic Apprentice is now Magic Adept (and magic get all schools of their level, as before).  Non-cutie mark unicorns are considered apprentices
• Magic Adept/Master get Master level magic immunity, other magic cutie marks get Adept level immunity
• There are disciplines within a school for spells - these group thematically similar spells and determine which lower level spell hologems are required for making higher level spells, but don't impact learning spells
• Like old FoE, each level (apprentice, adept and master) has their own version of spells.  However, unlike old FoE, casters learn all the spells at or below their level (instead of just apprentice, adept or adept+master).
• Like old FoE, apprentices (formerly termed novices) can learn all the apprentice spells in one school, and adepts can learn all the apprentice+adept spells in their school plus apprentice in one other.  However, Masters also get to learn adept spells in one other school, in addition to their own school(plus apprentice everything).  Magic Adepts/Masters, as always, get everything.
• MAS terminal is only needed for master level spell research and the MAS talisman forge - arcane terminal and arcane gem-cutting station cover everything.  In addition, arcane buildings just use the stable-tec terminal, instead of a special arcane terminal built from the same parts.
• A lot of the stuff (talismans, healing potions etc) that required higher level hologems in old FoE now just require multiple lowest tier gems (A1,C1,D1,I1,R1), and higher tier gems can be broken down into industrial reagents that behave like lowest tier gems

[Unknown72]

Glad to see work being done for this mod, i'm a long time lover of it and was sad to see it no longer being updated, especially with the new stuff in DF. Thanks for continuing it's development @thefriendlyhacker! If you're thinking of completing this mod, might I suggest a new thread? Though i understand why you wouldn't with a lot of the help and information stored here.

[Unknown72]

Don't mean to double post, but would anyone be adverse to me learning how to mod via adding various creatures to this?

[thefriendlyhacker]

Don't mean to double post, but would anyone be adverse to me learning how to mod via adding various creatures to this?

Both previous mod authors have released stewardship over the mod and left several years ago.  I also learned how to mod by altering FoE.  I don't think there is even anyone still around who has the right to object in the first place.

And hey, if you manage to come up with some stuff that is vaguely backed up by MLP/FoE/Fallout lore, works reasonably well, and fits in nicely with everything else then I might just stick it into the mod proper (with your permission, of course).

[Unknown72]

Yea i wouldn't mind it, if the stewardship really has been released over this, then that just means that this is a community mod now, sustained and built on by the community members themselves instead of just a single person. I'd do more then just creatures, but i know nothing of modding and i think Creature's might be the easiest to do, i'll have to look through the creature files and see what's already done, but i think i might start with the simple Radroach first, might move onto Changeling version of Rabid Ghouls or some other creature yet, Hellhounds if those haven't been done, i'll check. I want to keep it to FoE lore as much as possible.

[Unknown72]

(sorry for double post) So did some research and found that the only creature from FoE that hasn't been modded in yet is the Hospital Horrors.

Looking on it, it seems that most of the Ministry of Peace - Peace and Love Arc was done (i think the only thing needed on that point is Cybernetics and the use of drugs on prisoners till that one's fully done), and seems like thefriendlyhacker has been making progress on the Ministry of Magic - Progress arc due to the new spells and the like. Maybe I could mod in Cybernetics and the use of drugs on prisoners to actually get those 2 points done and have the Ministry of Peace - Peace and Love arc fully done? Though that'll take some research as i'm a total newb to modding DF.

Spoiler: Here's the quoted list of Arcs and what Lycaeon was gonna do for them (click to show/hide)

Whoops! That was my mistake. I will go about formatting the main document, but here's the preliminary list of arcs and their major features.

•   Ministry of Wartime Technology Arc
     o   Raiders of Equestria
     o   Gears of Progress
     o   Fire and Steel
     o   Feather and Flame
•   Ministry of Peace and Morale Arc
     o   Life Goes On (Creatures)
     o   Pinkie Pie is Watching (Interrogation)
    o   Peace and Love (Drugs, Healthcare, Advanced Interrogation)
          •   Crop System based on Fallout (Refer to Deon's Fallout Mod)
          •   Drug production from those crops.
          •   Autoinjectors for those drugs (Refer to existing autoinjectors)
          •   Cybernetics
          •   Use of drugs on prisoners
     o   Everfree (Everfree Forest)
          •   Everfree forest flora and fauna
          •   Irradiated Changelings
          •   Recruitable Talon Mercenaries
          •   Revamp of the exploration system
•   Ministry of Awesome Arc
    o   20% Cooler (Heavy Weapons)
          •   Plasma based weapons and research
          •   Second robot expansion
          •   Crystal Pony technology
     o   War Never Changes (Enclave)
          •   Grand Pegasus Enclave
          •   Cloud-based technology
•   Ministry of Arcane Sciences Arc
     o   Progress (Magic System)
          •   Groundwork for Megaspell Research
          •   Expanded list of spells
     o   Unity (Megaspells)
          •   Megaspell Research Tree
          •   IMP Research Tree
          •   Gardens of Equestria Maneframe
•   New Canterlot Republic Arc (1.0 and beyond)
     o   Hope (NCR)
          •   Wastelander civilization transformed into New Canterlot Republic
          •   Enclave renamed to Enclave Remnant
          •   Steel Rangers and Talon Mercenaries become friendly
          •   Slavers and raiders reduced in frequency/power
          •   Four Stars crates
          •   Friendly Zebra civilization
     o   Legion (Zebras)
          •   Caesar's Legion (Hostile zebra civilization)
          •   Zebra potion chamber
          •   Zebra necromancy chamber
          •   Zebra talisman chamber
•   The Stars that Bind (Endgame)
          •   Starmetal poisoning
          •   Star corrupted enemies introduced as Hell endgame content.

[Unknown72]

So decided to just mod in something that wouldn't ultimately break the game, that being about 141 cutie marks and will most likely add more later (my endgame is about 1000+ cutie marks for that ultimate uniqueness, no more ponies with twin cutie marks). However I couldn't find the file that contains cutie marks that give effects/effects stats/labors/ect, so either it doesn't exist or i'm just not finding it, but it has to exist somewhere, as I had a pony with twin drills that was really good at mining alongside other ponies with cutie marks that are really good at what that cutie mark depicts, but that cutie mark isn't in the descriptor_color_cutiemark file, which is the only file besides descriptor_color_cutiemark_evil that has cutiemarks in it that I can find.

So i'm missing something, if someone could point out the file then please do and I'll start adding more that will actually affect stats and the like.

Here's the link: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13913

[thefriendlyhacker]

So decided to just mod in something that wouldn't ultimately break the game, that being about 141 cutie marks and will most likely add more later (my endgame is about 1000+ cutie marks for that ultimate uniqueness, no more ponies with twin cutie marks). However I couldn't find the file that contains cutie marks that give effects/effects stats/labors/ect, so either it doesn't exist or i'm just not finding it, but it has to exist somewhere, as I had a pony with twin drills that was really good at mining alongside other ponies with cutie marks that are really good at what that cutie mark depicts, but that cutie mark isn't in the descriptor_color_cutiemark file, which is the only file besides descriptor_color_cutiemark_evil that has cutiemarks in it that I can find.

So i'm missing something, if someone could point out the file then please do and I'll start adding more that will actually affect stats and the like.

Here's the link: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13913

Here is how the cutie mark system works in terms of the RAWs:

Spoiler: boring details, spoilered for length (click to show/hide)

The cutie marks themselves are implemented as colors that override the normal coloring for a pony's skin on their flanks.  The files descriptor_color_cutiemark and descriptor_color_cutiemark_evil define the colors that represent specific cutie marks.   The IDs of these colors in the color RAWs are referenced by individual pony creature files - without putting in or modifying tokens inside the creature file for a type of pony, cutie marks are just weird colors that don't do anything besides crop up on forgotten beasts every now and again.

For non-stable ponies, the cutie marks are added by simply selecting all castes, selecting the skin tissue layer group for the upper leg (which refers to the rear legs), giving that tissue layer the name "cutie mark" and adding all the cutie mark colors as color modifiers, with equal probability, and defining the stage of the pony's life at which the color appears (ponies only get cutie marks after a certain age). This is found at the bottom of each pony's creature definition.  Rangers work a bit differently because only unicorns get cutie mark colors (EPs are wearing armor over theirs) but the general idea is the same.  Note that non-stable ponies currently do not get special cutie mark bonuses.

Stable ponies work differently.  For each cutie mark, there are three parts which relate to cutie marks and the bonuses that go along with them:

• Near the top, there are the pop ratios and in game descriptions for each caste, including the description of each caste's special talents.
• Roughly half way down, the skills, extra bonuses (spellcasting etc) and the various details of their appearance* are defined.  This is a large part of the creature_pony file.
• At the very bottom, cutie marks are associated with each caste.  At the moment, each caste has it's own cutie mark

In addition, there are a bunch of places where groups of castes are selected (all males, all unicorns etc).  If you are adding new castes, you will need to select your caste in each block of [SELECT_CASTE:...] tokens so they don't miss out on vital tokens.

Be aware that another modder has been down the path of adding lots of extra castes before, and there is a limit to the number of castes you can add without there being problems.  We are at 296 castes at the moment, the limit is 326.  You could add another 30 if you want, but from there things will break.  You could add multiple cutie marks per pony though, that would be completely safe to do so long as you didn't hit another limit somewhere (which hopefully won't happen unless you are making hundreds of cutie marks per caste).

On a related note, I am tempted to unify a lot of the similarly themed castes as well as some of the narrower castes and instead give castes with broader skill sets multiple cutie marks.  Not much is added by having separate armor crafting, weapon crafting, metal smithing and metal crafting cutie marks, for example - a blacksmith caste can replace all of those, and that caste could have a dozen different cutie marks associated with it.  Likewise, a lot of the narrow miscellaneous farming category tasks (lye making, bee keeping etc) could be rolled up into one or two castes.  A couple of castes (like whip user) could be cut entirely.  I took a quick skim of the caste descriptions and I could reduce the number of castes by around 50 or 60 if I do this.  Moving slave/freed slaves/blanks into their own file would also free 16 more castes.  If 30 more castes isn't enough for you (note - each cutemark+skills combo requires 4 castes), this is an option to open up more space for extra castes.

*At least some of these are the same across castes.  I haven't checked the extent of duplication yet - for all I know literally every pony has identical coat colors, and the same scheme is redefined 300 times.  I just know that I copied a skin color definition and pasted it over a few others and Git said that nothing changed.