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[Pokon]

I have a group of raiders outside my fort playing soccer, seemingly.


To be exact, the tile set makes turrets look like colorful balls, and now it's being knocked around outside by a bunch of freaks with hammers. Frankly, I am surprised it's lasted as long as it has.

[Replica]

What do you say Crazy Cow?

Spoiler: Will you be my special somepony? ;) (click to show/hide)

That is absolutely adorable :3
Also, gypsum plaster has about zero advantages over wooden splints. As long as you have one you don't need the other.

Wait, seriously?
Oh well, we are aiming for STELLAR healthcare here, I need to keep all of you in good shape so you can fight and have non-deformed children.
So I might as well get some gypsum in there, DF's medical system works in mysterious ways.

I am thinking about smoothing the entire thing so the hospital isn't just a cave with some beds and storage containers, we need clinically clean healthcare facilities in Lemon, only the best for the best.

Good going, Replica. I'm enjoying this, although I must have missed the first update. It seems that overall you're doing quite well. You've managed to dig up a lot of space too, but didn't even mention miners. I especially like the early perimeter wall with a bridge and turret defences, but I'd move one of them closer to fortifications. There are some differences in style, as I like wider corridors and having input stockpiles right next to the workshops that use them, but other than that I like it. With so many farms you'll soon be swimming in food, especially if you buy some extras from the caravans for meals (I know it is cheesy, but for 10k+ caps worth of trading, lavish meals just work best for me.) Looks like you're going to have many less deaths than I did, which is good. Ah right, you savescum, but only for main characters, so not for nameless migrants.

Indigo_Surprise's layout I understand a lot less. It looks like a bunch of cellars accessible from the surface, there is a giant stone stockpile without wheelbarrows or workshops, which will be very hauling-intensive to maintain. I can see very large farms, but no workshops or dormitories. This is... very different from what I would do, so lets see how that goes.

A good advice for community forts that none of us follows is to write it as a dairy (with dates) from the perspective of one of the characters.

First update is a few pages back, it mentions which one of the starting 7 became miners and who became scavengers.

As for design, well, I prefer large rooms and tight corridors early on because it speeds production up when everything is gathered in one place, later as my stables develop workshops and stockpiles become gradually more and more divided and heavily trafficked corridors are expanded.
Security design isn't final, 4 of the 8 turrets will be placed on a floor above so there are two rows of 4 turrets shooting simultaneously. In terms of performance it doesn't matter if a turret is one tile back or not, they can shoot past the other turrets and through the fortifications without issues.

And yes, meals are good trade.
But you gain more by making easy meals, especially if you are low on cookable food and you need quantity over quality.

And correct, I do savescum to save the essential ponies, but like you said, migrants don't get to be so lucky unless something absolutely critical happens that warrants a rewind.

Well, I made the official thread for the doomed expedition I have planned out.

Replica, I think that 3x3 bedrooms are a bit excessive; 1x4 usually works the most in balancing happiness and space, but whatever floats your boat.
Also, cute drawing you have there :D
And yay, apparently I'm in love with Maklak.

He is a hard stallion to love, very critical, but I'm sure the two of you will be happy together. :)
Also 3x3 bedrooms is the way to go. Space is not an issue, happiness is, and everyone get super happy when they get engraved 3x3 rooms with bed, cabinet and footlocker.
In forts where I actually care about giving my subjects rooms I go by this logic: Good rooms or no rooms.

Link us to the thread bro, I want to see how Seed "Debesh Unnos" Soulsaffron and Armor "Replica" Slipcreature do.

[P(ony)SI]

Well, I made the official thread for the doomed expedition I have planned out.

Replica, I think that 3x3 bedrooms are a bit excessive; 1x4 usually works the most in balancing happiness and space, but whatever floats your boat.
Also, cute drawing you have there
And yay, apparently I'm in love with Maklak.

He is a hard stallion to love, very critical, but I'm sure the two of you will be happy together.
Also 3x3 bedrooms is the way to go. Space is not an issue, happiness is, and everyone get super happy when they get engraved 3x3 rooms with bed, cabinet and footlocker.
In forts where I actually care about giving my subjects rooms I go by this logic: Good rooms or no rooms.

Link us to the thread bro, I want to see how Seed "Debesh Unnos" Soulsaffron and Armor "Replica" Slipcreature do.

My subjects are still happy with 1x4 engraved rooms with a bed, chest, cabinet, and door. But, I might actually try the 3x3 strategy this time. After all, you need something to be happy about when you're in a heavily irradiated desert

Here's the thread. I'm not starting the game until all the mane seven are taken.

[Crazy Cow]

No pony needs rooms! Luxury breeds weakness; communal shelter is more than enough to satisfy a pony's needs.

[P(ony)SI]

No pony needs rooms! Luxury breeds weakness; communal shelter is more than enough to satisfy a pony's needs.

That's a good point, except happiness in this game does not cause a faster rust of skills and attributes.
And unhappy militia ponies are dangerous.

[Replica]

No pony needs rooms! Luxury breeds weakness; communal shelter is more than enough to satisfy a pony's needs.

You are the whole reason I had to make rooms to begin with, the way Crazy Cow complained after Lemon was founded forced me to give her her own room or she would go, well, crazy.
Then I discovered their relationship and figured "eh, might as well make it extra nice if Replica is going to keep Crazy Cow cozy at night" and then I felt bad about the others not having rooms, so I built more rooms and here we are with a nice little hotel type of underground bunker where everything is poor and everyone has their own room.

I'll make another stable report later tonight, just for kicks.

[Replica]

That forum server failure, ey chaps?

I had the worst nights sleep in weeks.
I keep dreaming that I am in this endless desert, the desert is completely flat and there is nothing in any direction, it is just endless desert, and it's incredibly hot.
I walk around for what feels like 10 minutes and wake up abruptly feeling completely drained and dehydrated.
I've had this dream twice tonight, the first time I woke up at 2AM and went downstairs to drink something, I drank just over half a liter of milk and half a liter of juice and then I went back to sleep only to wake up barely an hour later feeling dehydrated again. Hmm.

But anyways, might as well post what I remember from my last session now that Bay 12 is up and running again, it's not like I can go back to sleep again, I don't want to dream of endless deserts again, I like my 3-6cm layer of snow.

Spoiler: Lemon Stable Report 3 (click to show/hide)

Evening report

Lemon is doing well for itself.


Session three starts off with a lovely feral dog invasion.
We have few important duties to attend to at this time so we all go out for some good old feral dog cut-em-up.
Indigo is injured and brought to the hospital with minor wounds, he is immediately treated and rests.

While Indigo lies in the hospital Lycaeons broken tail finally heals, but he is stuck in the traction bench, so we deconstruct it and he has now returned to active duty as our chief medical pony, leader and militia commander. Congratulations sir, you only missed everything.
Still, being the most qualified doctor it is good to have him back with us. To avoid situations like those in the future we will now be establishing a medical staff that tends to the hospital at all times.
P(ony)SI is currently part of this staff on a part time basis due to her excellent service in treating all those wounded with no losses.

With Lycaeon up again Indigo recovers almost straight away, I imagine Lycaeon getting angry and kicking Indigo out of her bed for lazing about and throwing her out of the hospital for stealing soap. Which speaking of, we need to make more of, we don't need soap and the hospital is stocked, but looking at Crazy Cow's and Maklak's excessive happiness soapy baths seem to give mad good thoughts, and good thoughts are good thoughts, so more soap it is.

Shortly following Indigo's recovery ban from the hospital a horde of radrats attack, our heroes go out to deal with them and Indigo and P(ony)SI fiercely compete over kills.
Lycaeon still has no weapon and Replica has serious problems with moving with his nerves being all smashed and sliced and all.

A large migrant wave of 27 ponies arrives just as Indigo and P(ony)SI finish the radrats off, covered completely in rat blood the two greet the horde of migrants and brought inside the stable where they get to take the G.O.A.T as all migrants must.

G.O.A.T results in 3 medical ponies, 3 riflepony, 3 craftspony, 3 macepony, 2 knifepony, 1 swordspony, 6 farmers, 4 fisherpony, 1 chief of security, 1 trader and 1 spearpony.

The secondary militia squads are almost filled up and we still don't have a barracks for them to train in or equipment to give them, this will be seen to later.

The farmers were desperately needed, so those were immediately put to work, farms were expanded further and more varied surface farms were built.
It's tedious to tell you exactly what they grow, but lets just say that they grow a lot, and they grow varied stuff. I don't like depending on one food, it's boring.

The fisherponies are a poor and unreliable source of food, but they add variation and we don't need them anywhere else at the moment, we are practically swimming in idlers which I am still waiting for an opportunity to assign to some major project, like the iron industry.

Medical staff is good now, eventually the hospital may get expanded and more qualified doctors will be added to the staff, but for now I am confident that Lycaeon and his interns will handle our odd mutant bite and scratch, and if anything serious happens we have it all stocked up and prepared for the worst, even soap, which is the second time ever I use since I began playing Dwarf Fortress a couple of years back, is available.

There is one pony who doesn't take the G.O.A.T however, Straw Styleclap, a pony with hunting labours enabled showed up in the wave, and immediately set about hunting the local black radscorpions forcing the stable to be put into panic mode and Straw to be locked out.
Straw was unable to survive with a mere BB gun, and was incapacitated almost immediately.
It took him a couple of seasons to actually die, because that's how long it took for the black radscorpion to strangle his throat using his massive sharp pincers.
When the scorpions left the stable was unlocked and Straw S. buried.
He will be missed... by absolutely nopony at all.

A significant amount of wood and scavenge was designated to be cut down, this is a mini project that was interrupted relatively frequently by scorpions which are too risky to be fought at this stage.



Following the recent migrant wave we got two nobles, like mentioned in the GOAT results.
We now have Thorn Scoldlantern, Chief of Security and Twilight Uttersnake, Trader.
Thorn Scoldlantern is an unicorn stallion and seems to be related to security somehow.
Twilight Uttersnake is an unicorn mare and is described as being a "relentless broker", which is just what we need in this world of greed and egg roast exploits.
Thorn wont be doing his job for now however, we still need to set up some kind of holding area and better organize the stable authorities, we don't want the stable to be anarchic, but it isn't vital right now, so it will come later.

Another feral dog wave arrives, the holy 7 are dispatched once more and successfully maim every last motherfucker.
Maklak is wounded however, fortunately the wounds are minor and the worst thing he'll get out of it is a scar, pressumably he'll be able to use it to his advantage when courting P(ony)SI, and scars also make good party talk.

Which speaking of, immediately after Maklak recovered P(ony)SI threw Lemon's first party.
This is neither a blessing nor a nuisance at the current stage, so I am refraining from interrupting the parties with SIREN.



While the party was underway we designated the hospital for smoothing, this serves no practical purpose, but looks really pretty and clean, which is what we are aiming for the hospital.

Our trader, Twilight, goes into a fey mood, becoming our first moody pony in our establishment.
She requests a single rough gem, so we use our secret mind powers to pinpoint exactly where we can find those without unleashing a mini hell in our shabby makeshift bunker.
She begins constructing her mysterious construction and produces Stopquest, an artifact Armor Stand.
We greedily place this armor stand in Crazy Cow's bedroom for the moment, we still don't have a barracks for our squad so we might as well pamper her and keep her happy for now.



This session is a session of firsts.
The pony "Death" which I have mentioned before gave birth to a beautiful healthy baby earth pony girl who is destined to become a psychologist, which actually means she is a craftspony and will toil under near-chinese working conditions on various things from the day she comes of age.
I had hoped for *EHERGM* SOMEPONY ELSE to have the first child, but this is also okay.



We build an armory and two stone foundries, because those are among the things we needed the most (armor user training and stone bins for all the crap we have).

Unfortunately in the case of the armory it turns out that we need a set of Steel Combat Armor as a reagent to actually use the workshop.
I assume the reagent is preserved (or I am going to be proper pissed later on) so we are working on scavenging some combat armor.

We begin the construction of 90 stone bins.
A few are pumped out and many of our goods are stored away neatly.

Soon we'll also have to build stone barrels due to our increasing amount of food and drink.
Like Maklak had predicted I am now almost, kind of, swimming in brewable plants, which is exactly what I want.

Our scavenging industry is initiated shortly after the rock containers project was initiated.
We are aiming for steel combat armor, and with all these medium and high quality logs laying about we have a pretty good chance of finding some in addition to steel pitchforks for Lycaeon and our other soldiers.
We still haven't processed any of our scavenged items, no crates have been opened, Hearth's Warming Eve, an old pre-war tradition that was preserved in the few stables who actually survived, is coming up and somepony had the idea of leaving then unopened until Hearth's Warming Eve reaches Lemon to boost morale a bit.

What we can see in terms of crates however are:
16 damaged civilian crates.
11 civilian crates
1 explosives crate
4 Ministry of Image crates
5 Ministry of Peace crates
3 Ministry of Morale crates
2 Ministry of Wartime Technology crates
3 Ironclad Industries crates
1 RobronCo crate
1 Ministry of Awesome crate

Overnight somepony labeled every single crate with 'TO THE BAR OF ALES, LOVE SANTA CLAUS', which is questionable seeing as there has been no mention of any Santas or Clauses anywhere before. Despite this the original 7 are all giddy with anticipation over opening those babies up.
Replica is especially excited about the Ministry of Awesome and RobronCo crates
Lycaeon is more interested in the Ministry of Peace crates.
Crazy Cow has been keeping an eye on the Ministry of Morale crates, in the hopes of finding something to cheer ponies (but mostly herself) up.
P(ony)SI and Maklak are both leaning towards the Ministry of Wartime Technology and Explosives crates, being more focused on what we actually need, ie weapons and armor in preparations for future attacks.
Lastly we have Khenal who snagged the Ministry of Image crates and Indigo_Surprise who hogged all the civilian crates, broken or not, for herself like the kleptomaniac she is.

Note, that the crates and scavenged items are not in the adjacent stockpile like ordered.
The finished goods all ended up scattered anyway despite toys and tool/toy materials being forbidden in other stockpiles, still need to figure that one out a bit better, I know that it can be fixed, because I did it in my previous stables without any serious problems.



Another migrant wave showed up just before the end of the session.
This one is smaller and consisted of 11 ponies, of which 1 was a child.
GOATS for everypony and we got, 1 mage, 1 clothesmaker, 2 macepony, 1 trader, 1 butcher, 1 riflepony, 1 craftspony, 2 scavengers and 1 fisherpony.

The trader is not needed, but will be unassigned and left to do whatever anyway for now. Might assign it to gem working or something.

Now our mage, Bright Coupleally the unicorn (duh) stallion is interesting.
What he wrote on the GOAT describes him as "a master cleric" with a "fundamental understanding of restoration magic" which I have absolutely no idea what it means but can guess that it is related to healing somehow (how this works ingame I have no idea, I was convinced that healing spells didn't work, but evidently if I am looking at a cleric and nurse robots I must be wrong).
We will be keeping him safe until needed, his duties will consist of gem working and perhaps something else.

List of professions:

3 Butchers
2 Clothesmakers
6 Craftsponies
9 Farmers
4 Fisherponies
3 Knifeponies
7 Maceponies
1 Mage
1 Manager
4 Medical Ponies
5 Rifleponies
6 Scavengers
1 Security Officer
2 Smiths
1 Spearpony
1 Swordspony
2 Traders

Total 58 Pop
1 KIA
Kills and score:

The stable of Lemon has witnessed the death of 86 creatures, out of which 3 belonged to us.

Current kill list for The Bar of Ales (or DF Modding Board) is:

Lycaeon - 0 kills
Crazy Cow - 3 kills
Maklak - 4 kills
Replica - 6 kills
Khenal - 8 kills
P(ony)SI - 28 kills
Indigo - 31 kills

As you can see Lycaeon is still lagging behind, Crazy Cow is despite her very unremarkable physique (ie not a fatass with "untold amounts of fat") unable to keep up with the much faster Indigo, and Maklak is also not doing very well in terms of kills. Replica is still nerve stapled and might as well be considered crippled for all intents and purposes.
Khenal has been keeping a very low and unnoticeable profile but is still among the leading three with 8 kills.

The competition lies between P(ony)SI with her 28 kills and Indigo with her 31.

But kills isn't everything.
In terms of personal improvement our two leaders are Maklak and Replica, followed by P(ony)SI and Indigo.

In weapon skills Maklak lies in the lead with 6 levels in axes followed by P(ony)SI 5, how he got this with only 4 kills is a mystery, but I don't question mysteries, I just accept them.

In fighting skills Maklak is in the lead with 13 levels in Fighting followed by Indigo's 12.
Indigo has also begun to use her knife, finally. She is level 1 in knife handling and has been practicing avidly on carrots much to Khenal's dismay.

As for Replica, he has become a level 10 crutch walker and is increasing this skill very rapidly.
At level 14+ he will be just as fast as he was before and will once again be able to compete with the others.
Objectives/General

Stable was savescummed/rerolled once this session, Crazy Cow was killed by a black radscorpion who just entered the map while chasing after radrats.

For this session we have checked off:

- Armory (For Armor User training)
- Drinks Production
(But have attained other unlisted objectives, such as recovering Lycaeon)

We still need:

- Early Iron Industry (fucking seriously this time!!)
- Barracks
- More wood/scavenge
- Archery Range
- Steel Combat Armor
- Steel Pitchforks
- Gypsum Trade Agreement
- Underground Pasture
- Secured Surface Farms
- More Rooms
- Holding Cells
- Kennel for war dogs
- More farms, 'cause farms are the best and I love farms and farms are great
- Butcher all but 3 roosters
- Divide scootaloo coop into breeding and egg production
- More prepared meals in preparation for next caravan


Aaaaaaaand thats basically it.
I probably missed a bunch of crap, but I think I got the highlights, impressive amount of stuff I wrote considering that I only had a list with things like "FERAL DOG CLEAROUT" to remember by.
We'll see if I feel arsed to write another report later. I really like this stable, but I also have other shit that I need to do but don't want to.
To do what I want to do or do what I NEED to do, decisions decisions.

[Crazy Cow]

That Death pony is pretty creepy.
And I might not be the fastest, or the strongest, or the most skilled, but by Celestia Above I am the happiest unicorn in the whole damn fortress!

[Indigo_Surprise]

My female earth pony counterpart is turning out to be a right tough old bitch.

[Replica]

And I might not be the fastest, or the strongest, or the most skilled, but by Celestia Above I am the happiest unicorn in the whole damn fortress!

Yes, the happiest and most frigid bitch in the whole fortress.
Y u no give me kids, Crazy Cow? I thought you loved me!
Is it my mane? No wait, I think I know what's going on here.
It's the nerve damage isn't it. You don't love me now that I can't move my hips as sensually as I could before.

My female earth pony counterpart is turning out to be a right tough old bitch.

Goddamn right you are, and you'll get even tougher now that we have an armory, barracks and cold steel coming in shortly.
Your bucking and stabbing sprees are the start of something beautiful, Indigo.

[P(ony)SI]

Healing ponies, killing stuff, opening useful crates, and throwing parties.
That's the life of a butcher!

And you know what? I'm happy with Maklak. I want lots and lots of foals with him!
Don't tell anypony this though. DON'T.

[Crazy Cow]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I always feel a bit strange talking about r63 versions of myself ;P

Don't worry, I'm working on it. Just trying to get Lycaeon in bed so I can get myself a proper heir.

[Replica]

Healing ponies, killing stuff, opening useful crates, and throwing parties.
That's the life of a butcher!

And you know what? I'm happy with Maklak. I want lots and lots of foals with him!
Don't tell anypony this though. DON'T.

That's the spirit!
See Crazy Cow, P(ony)SI is okay wit-

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I always feel a bit strange talking about r63 versions of myself ;P

Don't worry, I'm working on it. Just trying to get Lycaeon in bed so I can get myself a proper heir.

[P(ony)SI]

That's the spirit!
See Crazy Cow, P(ony)SI is okay wit-

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I always feel a bit strange talking about r63 versions of myself ;P

Don't worry, I'm working on it. Just trying to get Lycaeon in bed so I can get myself a proper heir.

-snip-

REPLICA!
Don't tell anypony that I-
*sees sad face*

(Yeah, I'm trying to do an in-character perspective)

[Maklak]

I liked your report a lot, Replica. I have a few comments:

That dream of yours sounds rather disturbing.

> Lycaeon getting angry and throwing Indigo out of the hospital for stealing soap.
Lol.

> The farmers were desperately needed
> More farms, 'cause farms are the best and I love farms and farms are great
  I usually have massive food overproduction even with much smaller farm area than you. Still, it is very profitable to farm quarry bushes and you can use synth-reeds for oil, thread and synthcola anyway. Just... you know, you can stop farming for a while once you have thousands of food and drink.

> The fisherponies are a poor and unreliable source of food
Personally I don't even bother with them. They tend to go outside and attract the wildlife and I have lots of food anyway.

> Straw Styleclap, a pony with hunting labours enabled showed up in the wave, and immediately set about hunting the local black radscorpions
I've had the very same problem. BB guns are useless for hunting and nothing can be done about it. Now I pause when I see new migrants, go to Pony Therapist, read ponies, sort by migration wave, disable: hunting, trapping, fishing and bee-keeping and commit changes before all of them even show up on the map.

> It took him a couple of seasons to actually die, because that's how long it took for the black radscorpion to strangle his throat using his massive sharp pincers.
Heh, this probably means we could have taken the scorpions on. In my experience their most dangerous attack is their poison anyway.

> Maklak is wounded however, fortunately the wounds are minor and the worst thing he'll get out of it is a scar, presumably he'll be able to use it to his advantage when courting P(ony)SI, and scars also make good party talk.
Lol. Fun thing is, I have scars on my right hand from a dog bite. Yeah, many of my ponies have some scars or old wounds on them as well. Even my expedition leader is covered in scars.

> Which speaking of, immediately after Maklak recovered P(ony)SI threw Lemon's first party.
Lol. Thanks. 

> We greedily place this armor stand in Crazy Cow's bedroom for the moment, we still don't have a barracks for our squad so we might as well pamper her and keep her happy for now. 
Your ponies were trying to tell you something here. Loud and clear. And you still missed it. Just put that somewhere, make a room ad tell us to train there. You can relocate the barracks later.

> The pony "Death" which I have mentioned before gave birth to a beautiful healthy baby earth pony girl.
My Expedition leader is called "Dead". She isn't.

> Crates.
Do yourself a favour and do this now. Check what is the highest skill in mechanics in the outpost, and set that as the lowest acceptable at the Workbench and Supply Depot. Then update it from time to time. This will bump the quality of some items and will be of help.
Hopefully you'll get a pipbuck and a terminal soon.

I believe you now have enough ponies to give each of the main characters her own squad using that same weapon type. At the very least, sort all of us into squads by weapon type. 2 or 3 pony squads are preferable. How are we doing in terms of dodging, shield and armour use? What have we got in terms of armour? You're not having us run around and fighting things in clothes, are you?

> In weapon skills Maklak lies in the lead with 6 levels in axes followed by P(ony)SI 5, how he got this with only 4 kills is a mystery, but I don't question mysteries, I just accept them.
Well, you can go to the reports screen and see all those "hacks a dog with his hacksaw, bruising the bone." Or something. If you don't have barracks, this kind of weapon skill means he assisted in other ponies' kills.

> Archery Range
Only if you spam pellets. Since you have a lot of melee ponies, Shooting Range is not that essential. The fighters can hold the line, while BB ponies bruise and dent the skin, learning at a higher rate to boot.

> Gypsum Gunpowder Trade Agreement
Fixed that for you.

> Underground Pasture
Just tuck in the livestocks with all those chickens.
[Grumbles: Why can't chickens be war cave crocodiles?]

> Kennel for war dogs
In 31.11 you no longer need those. You set up a zone for pasture and animal training, go to Z->Animals and assign "Any trainer" and "War Training" where applicable. It is more micro-managy that just "Train War Animal" on repeat, but that's how it's done.

> More prepared meals in preparation for next caravan
AFAIK, Lavish meals work best in terms of everything. The stack size is combined from all four ingredients, each ingredient counts as a decoration with quality and the food itself has total quality. You'll get more value and need less space with lavish meals.