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Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« on: November 05, 2012, 05:11:18 am »

I have an idea to create an arena in my fortress for my fellow soldiers to train. My idea is to capture monsters in the caverns and breed them, but I want them to remain hostile. Is that possible somehow? I think it would be easy to capture a crundle breeding pair.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2012, 05:20:57 am »

Non-egg laying beasts can be bred in the wild, yes. I don't think wild egg-layers bothers to use nest boxes anymore, though, so you can't breed those in the wild.

You'd need a room to dump them into, and probably a whole line of cage trap to re-capture them after they breeds.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2012, 08:58:54 am »

[CASTE:FEMALE]
   [FEMALE]
   [LAYS_EGGS]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
      [EGG_SIZE:60]
      [CLUTCH_SIZE:5:20]

Crundles lay eggs... so you'll want to toss them in a room w/ nestboxes. Last I knew this worked, but maybe that got changed.

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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2012, 09:01:12 am »

If it doesn't work, I have to get me some rutherers.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 09:17:36 am »

Crundles don't have the child tag, so their eggs won't hatch. Rutherers are very much worth it because they can have triplets and with their high pet value and big size you get nice butchering returns.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 09:26:45 am »

[CASTE:FEMALE]
   [FEMALE]
   [LAYS_EGGS]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
      [EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
      [EGG_SIZE:60]
      [CLUTCH_SIZE:5:20]

Crundles lay eggs... so you'll want to toss them in a room w/ nestboxes. Last I knew this worked, but maybe that got changed.

IIRC, Toady removed ability for wild creatures to use nest box sometimes before minecart release.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 12:48:42 pm »

Yeah. Wild critters don't use nest boxes anymore. In my current fort, a cave croc reverted to it's wild state, and promptly walked away from the eggs she had been sitting on for the past few years.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 12:53:14 pm »

Yeah. Wild critters don't use nest boxes anymore. In my current fort, a cave croc reverted to it's wild state, and promptly walked away from the eggs she had been sitting on for the past few years.
Just a note here, but IIRC any fertile eggs will hatch within a year or so and if they don't you can feel free to collect them. (Tests have shown that EGG_SIZE does not have an effect on egg hatching time, so all eggs hatch in the same amount of time after being laid.)
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 01:01:14 pm »

I'll try. Crundles are not that hard to come by, but Rutherers are..
A flesh ball would also be nice for my fellow macedwarves.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 01:06:46 pm »

Yeah. Wild critters don't use nest boxes anymore. In my current fort, a cave croc reverted to it's wild state, and promptly walked away from the eggs she had been sitting on for the past few years.
Just a note here, but IIRC any fertile eggs will hatch within a year or so and if they don't you can feel free to collect them. (Tests have shown that EGG_SIZE does not have an effect on egg hatching time, so all eggs hatch in the same amount of time after being laid.)
I'm pretty sure that the instant the mother moves off their nest, the egg's sterilized, from occasional issues I gets with overcrowded birds.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 01:08:26 pm »

Yeah. Wild critters don't use nest boxes anymore. In my current fort, a cave croc reverted to it's wild state, and promptly walked away from the eggs she had been sitting on for the past few years.
Just a note here, but IIRC any fertile eggs will hatch within a year or so and if they don't you can feel free to collect them. (Tests have shown that EGG_SIZE does not have an effect on egg hatching time, so all eggs hatch in the same amount of time after being laid.)
I'm pretty sure that the instant the mother moves off their nest, the egg's sterilized, from occasional issues I gets with overcrowded birds.
True. My point was that once a crocodile has sat on the eggs for a year or so you know they are sterile anyways, so there is no reason to leave the eggs in the nest box anymore.
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Re: Can you breed monsters for an arena?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 01:44:31 pm »

Yeah, I had a feeling my hope of them ever hatching was in vain. Thanks for the confirmation.
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