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Birddoggydog

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How To survive Evil Surroundings
« on: November 04, 2012, 03:24:39 pm »

Hey Guys,

I've been playing DF on and off for about two years, and I've recently decided it was time to make my run at a FUN surrounding.  That means Evil, With Aquifers, nearby Enemy Civs, and just generally as many evil things as I can find nearby, etc...  I'm wondering if anyone has advice on how to live longer than about ten minutes for more overall FUN.  Right now it starts raining Vile Mucus and within a few minutes everyone is dead before they can get the cart supplies inside.

Thanks,

Birddoggydog.

Edit:  I was apparently really fond of Aquifers.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2012, 03:41:51 pm by Birddoggydog »
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 03:27:16 pm »

Dig, ASAP, dig in and pray you don't get deaded. I've not had to deal with evil biome, but it's pretty much what I does in savage and being too close to Towers.
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Birddoggydog

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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 03:40:21 pm »

Yea, I've been trying that...

Every time I embark, it's already raining vile mucus, and even with burrows just the time spent running inside gets them all killed.  Even if I reclaim it's like that =(

I guess that's fun!
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Birddoggydog

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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 03:57:35 pm »

I give you:

The Great, terrible fortress known as:

The Crpyt.

It's first denizens, a brave adventurous group of young Dwarves known affectionately as "The Stupid Suicide", stopped sending correspondence within a week of their first season.  A brief scouting expedition found a collection of corpses, smothed in some vile sticky, mucus like substance.  And so another group of intrepid adventurers was sent.  "The Fool Brigade".  These young and valorous Dwarves were greeted by a torrential, season long rain of vile mucus.  They starved to death.

And so a great meeting was called.  A better organized supplied and planned party was sent. "The Golden Party" they were called, the great hope!  They were never heard from again. 

The crypt has claimed the lives of 21 young dwarves.  How many will it take?

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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 04:00:22 pm »

perhaps look for a different site, with less mucus.

or just less-deadly mucus. i've embarked on a terrifying glacier and had ooze rain that only caused vomiting and sores - no deaths.

i didn't keep the fort anyways. soo gross. i could deal with elf blood rain, i guess, but toxic ooze is just inhospitable.
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Birddoggydog

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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 04:08:46 pm »

Finally got it to where I'm escaping the rain (i've sacrificed enough dwarves so that they can get indoors before the rain gets them) but now everyone is suffocating.  Not sure how to handle that one.
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 04:09:11 pm »

It's also at 28 dwarves now ;-)
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 05:09:54 pm »

Wish I could help ya, but I cannot. 

The excessive miasma aside;
the forever caged necromancers aside;
the cheetah undead aside;
the CHEETAH UNDEAD.

The daywalkers aside;
the strange werewolves popups aside;
the cheetah undead aside,
the CHEETAH UNDEAD!

A zombie lurches at a snails pace, because of stiff joints and atrophied muscles.  Close eyes..  Now picture Grampa coming in from the cold, with a hitch in his giddy-up and a half-chewed Reuben sandwich falling out his pie-hole.
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 06:34:18 pm »

After 42 dead dwarves, I have decided to move on.  I can get inside, and avoid the death rains.  It's the suffocation.  I can't figure that out.  I feel like if I could get past that I could probably handle the other issues..

*sigh*
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 07:06:43 pm »

After 42 dead dwarves, I have decided to move on.  I can get inside, and avoid the death rains.  It's the suffocation.  I can't figure that out.  I feel like if I could get past that I could probably handle the other issues..

*sigh*

Embark with medics and make a hospital right away?
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 07:20:35 pm »

It seems the mucus causes a suffocation syndrome, some options:
1) dig down, get everybody to safety using burrows, make a dwarven bathtub with the aquifier to clean the mucus
2) bring lots of stones or (blocks) and build a quick 3x4 ceiling above your wagon, again use burrows to keep dwarves in that small enclosure, then wall yourself in and dig down.

Is it already raining when you first arrive? I usually seem to have a while before a rain, and the time seems random, so save scumming until you get your dwarves to safety wouldn't be that bad really, or mod-in dwarven umbrellas :P
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 08:18:49 pm »

They're getting rained on or hit by a cloud at some point.  When you embark dig in RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.   Make sure there is no way for rain to get down any stairs to them.

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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 01:37:24 am »

Took me about two months to learn how to dig straight down.  The trick is the downward stair.  Just 1x1.  For the life of me, forever it seemed, really took me awhile because I'm dim; I kept running around the region finding a mound to dig into.  I never realized, I could just dig straight downwards, without a chunk or log, by using downward stair. 

Channels come with some wierdness.  Try a downward stair, then seal it up with a retractable bridge.  Then sneak up and channel around the cart, collapse it, and seal that whole shaft with a larger retractable bridge.  Put um both on same link. 

I think that's what the experts do.  Knutor is not one, however.
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2012, 08:11:05 am »

I've yet to survive more than a minute in a terrifying biome - sometimes it's the weather, but most of the time it's the damn zombie animals that spawn right near my wagon since I only play small embarks.
And if there's auto-reanimation reclaiming is even harder than the first try.

So yeah, good luck with that as I haven't managed to do it yet.
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Re: How To survive Evil Surroundings
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2012, 11:27:43 am »

Good areas, no challenge noob
Benign areas, thrivable
Savage areas, survivable and after a while profitable
Evil areas,....RUN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. Dig for the 1st 10 wave of settlers(not migrants you won't last that long) then build for the next 10. Then you have 1 out of 10000 chance of living to your 1st migration.

I have survived in a savage areas since I first started up dwarf fortress and never before have I been so hard pressed to last longer than the 1st season. If the weather doesn't kill you it's the animals/creatures, if they don't kill you then it's your dead, if they don't kill you then its your own people, if they don't kill you then you aren't in an evil area.
 
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