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Author Topic: Rampant interbreeding?  (Read 3358 times)

Drawde

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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2012, 11:23:28 pm »

I made a small world with many semi- and megabeasts.  With enough time the dwarves should be wiped out, then you'll only have to worry about the hardcoded waves (and yes, those first two are hardcoded).

Of course I wasn't trying for invaders or traders with that world.
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MrWillsauce

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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 11:34:26 pm »

I doubt it'll work. I once made a small world with 4000 megabeasts and the dwarves still thrived. It'll be much easier for you just to change the population cap.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2012, 02:16:35 am »

I saw something in a thread earlier (I forget where) that said someone was looking through Legends and noticed that there was a very 'unique' family tree. One in which a dwarf's wife was also his cousin, his other cousin was also his uncle, stuff like that.

That got me thinking, how feasible would it be to somehow switch off migrant waves and start a fortress, with the only population increase coming from your original seven dwarves interbreeding?

I tried something like this by just constructing a wall in the entry passage after my original 7 and all their stuff were inside.  Let the migrants pile up and die of thirst/starvation/enemies outside.  Eventually the original 7 and descendants died of angry ghosts.

It could work, but you might want to leave a mason's workshop and pick, or carpenter's workshop and axe, outside the sealed fortress.  Make wood or stone coffins and have each migrant wave that gets stuck outside bury the last one.
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Argonnek

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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2012, 03:44:42 am »

I doubt it'll work. I once made a small world with 4000 megabeasts and the dwarves still thrived. It'll be much easier for you just to change the population cap.
Well, did you lower the megabeast's attack requirement? Like changing the minimum population requirement from 80 (or so) to 8 and lowering the wealth requirement will probably get you better results.

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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2012, 12:56:16 pm »

To op: I've fine a no migrant fort before. They are quite fun, but require you to play differently. It is extremely slow to get anything done, your wealth can rapidly outgrow your ability to defend it and you have to be very focused on what you produce. Labor is very expensive to come by, so labor intensive activities should be minimized (seed hauling, stone hauling, etc) You have to be very focused on what you make and what you do and at first you cannot really focus your labor much.
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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2012, 12:59:38 pm »

I've done a few fortresses like this before, though you'll always get the first two migrant wave, AFAIK.

It's pretty good education for labor path and working on cutting down overhead requirements :D

Of course you get a bit trap-dependant that way and occasionally overmechanize the fortress once you get some spare mechanics around.
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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2012, 02:26:52 pm »

I've got a fort running right now that is getting no migrants and no merchants (from any civ). I do have 18 towers nearby, so I get plenty of company.

In 50 years or so I expect I will have enough dwarves to field a proper military.

Until then, it's all parties and baby-making.
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Re: Rampant interbreeding?
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2012, 03:21:55 pm »

Just wait until one of your dwarves dies and all their siblings, uncles, cousins, grandparents and their pet piglets get upset in the same time. That is the downside of everyone being related to eachother.
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