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[Neonivek]

Wait Zanzi is the ultimate warrior AND he turns into a dragon?

Yeah he is clearly supposed to be the "Totally cool villain character who always gets his way" like Magnus or General Leo.

[Darvi]

N's don't go there.

[Neonivek]

N's don't go there.

Ok there is obviously a subtext here.

[SomeStupidGuy]

Dude's called Magus, not Magnus. No subtext that I know of.

[Neonivek]

Dude's called Magus, not Magnus. No subtext that I know of.

Ohhh I see... Also "N"s do go there if I was refering to a person named Magnus (a real name).

I still call Magus, Magnus... since Magus isn't a name of a person and Magnus is.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Except for the being an uber-boss bit, that part is nearly impossible to justify.

Ever seen "If Bay Forum were a mountain hall..."?
The uber-boss bit is basically a call-back to my poor writing in that.  Sunlance was an attack utilized by the character there.

Of course, getting past how he died after just barely managing to kill an even stronger 'Dark' version of himself who had absorbed other extremely powerful dark entities is going to be hard to get around if that thread is mentioned.

-snip-

Actually, I think he would be more of a socially awkward hermit with strict moral standards (which is how you can sum up my personality in reality, to tell the truth) who has honed his skills through meditation (If bay forum was a mountain hall thread again) than what you suggested.

[Darvi]

Because it's such a great idea to base a character on self-fanfiction؟

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Because it's such a great idea to base a character on self-fanfiction؟

I can say that a majority of the posts I have made were in that thread and it's sequel.

[Darvi]

This is one of these rare moments where I start feeling pity. It feels awful.

[Sirus]

Since I'm currently not in the mood to snark at Zanzy, have some links. Yes, I just linked to TvTropes. No, I don't want those "Fuck you"s.

For once, I don't mind being linked here. I never knew about these pages

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

This is one of these rare moments where I start feeling pity. It feels awful.

Since the Op was in the thread as well, this following statement can be verified:
There were times that there were ninja x30+ in a single night.  I think I had a ninja x10 with a very short post...

Since I'm currently not in the mood to snark at Zanzy, have some links. Yes, I just linked to TvTropes. No, I don't want those "Fuck you"s.

Thank you slow internet for causing me not to be tempted by all the links.

[GreatWyrmGold]

They're quite useful pages, though.

Anyways...we discussing Zanzetkuken? I like the "powerful boss turns into weak but tries-hard PC" idea.

[Neonivek]

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Actually, I think he would be more of a socially awkward hermit with strict moral standards (which is how you can sum up my personality in reality, to tell the truth) who has honed his skills through meditation (If bay forum was a mountain hall thread again) than what you suggested.

It really wouldn't matter because you yourself have already set your character up as an entirely rediculous villain who gets SEVERELY depowered once he joins the party.

So sure he is a socially awkward hermit with strict moral standards... but you already cooled your way into the story, intentionally stunted until people couldn't deny it, then became a pathetic loser simply because you lost one battle and joined the party.

Anyways...we discussing Zanzetkuken? I like the "powerful boss turns into weak but tries-hard PC" idea

I know it works so well especially since Zanzetkuken keeps filling in how awsome his character is. Afterall he is a hermit (aka the dark mysterious loners) who can turn into a dragon who is stronger then everyone else and can even kill everyone with a single hit (dealing 101% of their HP in damage in every strike).

He had, while being in NPC form, the most powerful weapon and armor in all of existance!

The question is how much should we play up his fall into patheticness.

I still like the idea that you earn his ultimate weapon and armor after you beat him and he joins the party... yet no one, not even him, can equip them... So the goal is to turn them into Amazing Garbage so they are ruined just enough for him to use.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

then became a pathetic loser simply because you lost one battle and joined the party.

Average of the levels of the rest of the party is what would be preferred.  Still weaker, but not entirely pathetically weak.

[Neonivek]

then became a pathetic loser simply because you lost one battle and joined the party.

Average of the levels of the rest of the party is what would be preferred.  Still weaker, but not entirely pathetically weak.

You become pathetically weaker. You were a major super boss capable of soloing the entire party and even killing them without even trying.

You are now no where close to that.

No matter what level you are when you join the party.