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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Considering all of the fake big bads and fake fake big bads, etc.  I thought it would be funny if the game sets up the starting PC as 'the chosen one,' but the true chosen one winds up being one of the other non-optional characters* instead.

*remember: my character is an optional party member who you have to find in order to have him join the adventurers.

[Dermonster]

Here's an Idea, how about the big bad is the big bad?

Honestly, you people...

[The Darkling Wolf]

The MC should be the Big Bad.

[Dermonster]

We also should stop being kind of retarded.

The big bad is Armok. It is clearly visible from 1/5th of the way through the game. End of Story.

[Neonivek]

We also should stop being kind of retarded.

The big bad is Armok. It is clearly visible from 1/5th of the way through the game. End of Story.

Yes but I love the idea that before Armok shows up to make the story superfluous (like some RPGs) everyone just lays down speaches about how they are the true final boss.

Creating a boss fight composed of multiple bosses. Many who are "Final bosses".

Armok should just not be mentioned or visable at all. In true RPG tradition (FF8 AND FF9 and Fable 3)

[USEC_OFFICER]

Considering all of the fake big bads and fake fake big bads, etc.  I thought it would be funny if the game sets up the starting PC as 'the chosen one,' but the true chosen one winds up being one of the other non-optional characters* instead.

*remember: my character is an optional party member who you have to find in order to have him join the adventurers.

Of course! Svampapa was the chosen one all along! It makes perfect sense! (Sorry Zanzetkuken, but you're already a super-boss. You aren't going to be the chosen one as well.)

We also should stop being kind of retarded.

The big bad is Armok. It is clearly visible from 1/5th of the way through the game. End of Story.

Yes but I love the idea that before Armok shows up to make the story superfluous (like some RPGs) everyone just lays down speaches about how they are the true final boss.

Creating a boss fight composed of multiple bosses. Many who are "Final bosses".

Armok should just not be mentioned or visable at all.

Armok needs to be mentioned at a couple points, so that it isn't a complete surprise when he shows up. However, the fact that he renders the entire story superfluous shouldn't be hinted at all. As far as everybody in the game is concerned, Armok is just a really violent god.

[Neonivek]

Yes but Armok is the really obvious final boss without mentioning anyhow.

Anyhow the fake last boss being in the style of Romancing Saga 2 would be great (Where it is essentially 1 boss... but its form keeps adding another boss to the pile which gives it another attack)

The fact that the true armok isn't mentioned is supposed to be a joke of the "Space Flea" final bosses who just jump out of nowhere as the last boss having the BAREST hint of even existing (often not even being hinted upon)

[FuzzyZergling]

Are we talking about Armok the god of blood, or Armok the forum member?

[Dermonster]

The former.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We also should stop being kind of retarded.

The big bad is Armok. It is clearly visible from 1/5th of the way through the game. End of Story.

Why be so simplistic? Besides, all I have to contribute for the foreseeable future is ideas of what others should do, so don't disparage them.

Besides, we're Bay12. Overcomplicating everything would be our motto if Losing is Fun didn't come first.

[Dermonster]

How about 'Making a game' comes first?

[GreatWyrmGold]

How can we make a game if we lack a plot?

Also,

all I have to contribute for the foreseeable future is ideas of what others should do, so don't disparage them.

If I need to make a Rube Goldbergian plot with which you and, hopefully one day, I as well can build the game around, don't drive me off.

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Anyways...Can you have items give access to skills?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

(Sorry Zanzetkuken, but you're already a super-boss. You aren't going to be the chosen one as well.)

I know that!  Why do you think I put the reminder in!

Are we talking about Armok the god of blood, or Armok the forum member?

Maybe both, with the forum member being the decoy Armok.

[Kadzar]

As a separate, tri-ninja'd idea...

Maybe the ghost of the warlord is a recurring mini-boss who also shows up in various sidequests instead of being the bonus boss, a d instead of the previously mentioned end...

Once Tim is defeated, the dwarves offer you entrance to the Upper Realms, where you attain fame through a series of related quests. The central settlement, a dwarven fortress combining the best and the maddest of the community, is a sort of a hub for this activity; every quest you finish ends with you bringing a trophy to the dwarven king. These trophies include magical items and an Adamantine Pick. The magical items let the dwarves explore deeper, safer.

If you need to collect trophies based off of Dwarf Fortress, they should be things like a certain number of elf ears, the bones of an air-drowned mermaid, the last tears of a dwarven child for battle through a life of cruelty, an artifact rope reed amulet encrusted with shells and covered in the blood of its creator, and something with a picture of a dwarf surrounded by cats and/or eating cheese.

[USEC_OFFICER]

(Sorry Zanzetkuken, but you're already a super-boss. You aren't going to be the chosen one as well.)

I know that!  Why do you think I put the reminder in!

Whoops. Misread. Sorry about that.

Are we talking about Armok the god of blood, or Armok the forum member?

Maybe both, with the forum member being the decoy Armok.

If they are separate, then how would we differentiate them? Well... I guess godhood would be a good indicator. Maybe they're one and the same, but Armok has to ascend first or something?