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Re: dyslexia?
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2012, 11:31:39 pm »

Why did they have to make dyslexia so hard to spell? It is really unfair.
I have minor dyslexia, can't copy text at all, have to do it one letter at a time, and my writing is illegible. I am great at reading though.
My dad also has dyslexia, he is an extremely slow reader.
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2012, 04:40:16 am »

Ha.  I dunno.  I think its latin for something or another.  Professionals love to pull out crap like that when their lack of credentials are exposed. 

Learning Disability, suits me.  How about you?

Was he the first to read, in your family?
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2012, 09:57:25 am »

Dyslexia (Old Greek for 'bad/difficult words') in any case (from Latin, 'casus') is a much better term (Latin, terminus) than 'learning disability'. People (Latin, populus) with dyslexia have trouble reading and writing, not trouble learning. 'Having trouble learning' is much too broad a stigma (Old Greek for stamp / mark), that dyslexic people are unjustly given, and it can unescessarily inhibit (Latin: inhibere) their development at school (Old Greek, 'skolè', actually meaning 'free time').

In the Netherlands, (at least back in the days when I still was at school, I don't know if our past few neo-liberal governments have killed that too) people with dyslexia can get extra tutoring to help them read and write better. Also, they get quite a bit of extra time to make exams (that right is granted them by law), both in secondary school as well as at university, and spelling errors are not taken into account for language grades in the first few classes of secondary school.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2012, 08:29:12 pm »

In America's public schools, we get a pat on the back in English, then we get handed off, on over to the next grade's English teacher, without learning much of anything, but how to improve our classroom daydreaming.  We never get told we have dyslexia, that would create more work for the union teacher, whose contract has strict guidelines on what they can do and cannot do on the job. 

A parent here in America has to hire a professional at insurance rate prices, or another words far in excess of what they are worth, just to gleam a hint at what maybe the kid's LD.  And then its never really told to the parent, since its stuck in the classified medical records.  Oh the parent can find out, if she hires a detective/lawyer, again at insurance rate premium rates.

Once we graduate the public schooling system and find out how just how ill equiped we are to compete in the job markets against people without an LD, we can always enlist in the military, or become a burden on the welfare system.  In the military there is a good chance we'll kill ourselves by reversing the safety button on our standard issue assault rifles.  In the welfare system, well we will prolly disappear off the grid as a transient.
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2012, 03:34:28 pm »

That's horrible.
Don't forget, Albert Einstein had dyslexia as well. That's why I do not like the term 'learning disability'. Dyslexia says nothing about a person's capacity for learning. With the right tutoring, dyslexia need not inhibit an individual's fulfillment of intellectual capacities, be it in education or in a business career. Looks like dyslectics in America need some emancipation.
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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 05:49:00 am »

My brother's dyslexic. Which I ironically just misspelled before the spell-checker caught it. He sometimes writes (or says) entirely the wrong word, and often spells words so incorrectly that spell-checkers can't help. He's a really good amateur writer, and is nearing the end of training to be a school-teacher. Go figure.
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2012, 11:49:25 am »

A few famous dyslexic writers:

Hans Christian Andersen (you know, the fairytales)
Agatha Christie (mostly known for her detectives)

oh, and what was that that dude's name, that wrote your Constitution..? Was it George Washington? He was a known dyslectic as well.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2012, 05:58:32 pm »

Not sure, sorry.  I'm one of those LD's that got a lousy public education.  I've learned to cope with it.  The problem I run into most of all is with paraprosdokian jokes.  Its gotta be spelled out for me, I just can't link or pickup the twists.  I do see backwards when I'm tired, but seldom write that way, thanks to the magic of QWERTY and spellcheckers.  I still see it, when I read tho.  And its hard to notice.

Washington was the first President, don't think the term, President, was even used prior to him.  That was when only a handful of states were together.  It reached 13 or so, was when the US won its independence from Britain.  I'd say 1776 or so, that was about when that Constitution was written.  Not really worth knowing, everyone seems to be ignoring it..  That's when that was written. 

Beats me who wrote it, however.  *blush*  I'm gonna say one of the Adams.  Uncle Fester Adams, prolly.  HA!  There was that scientist tho, he had dyslexic.  Einstein.  I've found his secret out.  Its quite easy for dyslexics to work both sides of an formula.  Working on both sides of an equation to find a solution, is second nature to a mild dyslexic as a result of the language teachers browbeating us to learn to read and write.
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2012, 08:31:55 am »

hmm i know its a little offtopic but what would signs be for minor dyslexia ?
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2012, 12:42:58 am »

With me it doesn't show up until I'm sleepy. 

I read fine 90% of time, but flip words out of sequence in the sentence.  Sometimes its whole words, other times, just letters.

I write long hand awful.  Typing is different.  Learning cursive helped my writing.  But I still flip stuff, all the time when I write.  Fortunately, I don't have to write many checks, with online banking.  This helps me hide it.  Cept when I'm forced to fill out a job application, in person.

I agree with Martinuzz.  And feel as he does.  Dyslexia is not as much a disability as professional teachers, and specialists would like us to believe.  Dyslexia a godsend when being bombarded by advertising.  I almost wish the dyslexia I suffer from was worse, then I wouldn't be swayed by this paper full of used car ads. 

Its really an ability.  One some people don't have, like throwing a curve ball.  Just not many people give us fifteen million to do it, and call us a Pro.   :D
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