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sudgy

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Something with the military
« on: October 22, 2012, 02:16:58 pm »

So I know a bajillion people are saying things about the military, but I was just setting up a military and so (for simplicity) I just made three squads of five each rotating in a few different things (guarding, training, and off duty).  The month it started in Squad A was assigned to guarding, Squad B with nothing, and Squad C with training.  Squad A went right to guarding, but nobody else did anything.  It makes sense for Squad B to not be doing anything, but Squad C should be training, not just lying around doing nothing.  Is this because the military commander is with Squad A so he can't train Squad C (I don't know if their captain can do it, I don't know the military that well)?  Could someone help with this?
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2012, 02:22:08 pm »

Have you assigned them to a barrack ( designated from armor and weapon stands ) to train in? Sometimes it takes a bit for them to figure out they should be training and hop to it even if they have a place to do it.

They'll only train within squads, not with other squads and captains aren't really involved more than regular soldier, other than as a commander. It's usually the most qualified person in the squad in particular skills setting up drills, or dwarves pairing off to spar, or just on their own to train.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2012, 02:24:53 pm »

Do they each need they're own barracks?  I forgot to mention that Squad A was made before the others and they had their own barracks.

Also, now it's a different month and Squad A is doing nothing (as they should), Squad B isn't training when they should, and Squad C isn't guarding when they should.

Edit: Now Squad A is training when they're supposed to be resting...
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 02:29:00 pm by sudgy »
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2012, 02:29:43 pm »

They shouldn't, I routinely have multiple squads training in one barrack without issues. How experienced are your dwarves, all with job of recruit? I've noticed less experienced dwarves sometimes takes a while to get into training.

I rarely bothers to assign squad cycles, I just set up barrack where I want them to post at so they can train while they guard at same time.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2012, 02:37:51 pm »

Each squad can have their own barracks, or you can have one barracks that they all share.  It makes no difference.

If squads aren't going on duty and then training (possibly after getting equipment, eating, etc.) during a month when they're scheduled to train, then something is wrong.  Go over every detail until you figure out what's missing.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2012, 03:58:47 pm »

Well, I figured out one thing...  When I was assigning the barracks, I saw something saying "assign squads to barracks" so I hit it, not knowing that I was only assigning Squad A the barracks.  After I fixed this, after a minute or two I saw people from each squad in there...  I had to get off to go on with my life then, so I don't know what's going to happen yet.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2012, 05:38:34 pm »

Also, for training you need a weapon rack, or armour rack. you need to build these as furniture in a workshop first, like a carpenters workshop. make sure you have placed the weapon rack, ('b' - 'r') or armour rack as a building. ('b' - 'a')  Then make a room out of one, ('q' move cursor to the building then 'r' to make a room) and then ('q') to the rack that you made the room out of, and scroll ('-'  '+') through the squads to assign squad A, B and C to be allowed to Train there ('t' when the squad you want is highlighted.)

I make no assumption that you do not know these things already. I only want to be thurough in my search for the inconvenience you are running into.


Also, my hotkey instructions may be rusty, I'm giving them off the top of my head.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 05:56:04 pm »

I have already made the barracks and assigned all the squads to them.  I might have figured out the problem (I might have not actually set the schedule for the other two squads), but I can't check yet as I can't go on the computer with DF on it for a bit.

EDIT: I got on and realized my problem.  I didn't realize there was a different schedule for each alert, and my scheduling was all on the wrong alert.  I switched them to that one, and it worked.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2012, 06:10:42 pm by sudgy »
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 08:43:06 pm »

Glad you figured it out ^^
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2012, 12:06:09 pm »

Also, for training you need a weapon rack, or armour rack. you need to build these as furniture in a workshop first, like a carpenters workshop. make sure you have placed the weapon rack, ('b' - 'r') or armour rack as a building. ('b' - 'a')  Then make a room out of one, ('q' move cursor to the building then 'r' to make a room) and then ('q') to the rack that you made the room out of, and scroll ('-'  '+') through the squads to assign squad A, B and C to be allowed to Train there ('t' when the squad you want is highlighted.)

I make no assumption that you do not know these things already. I only want to be thurough in my search for the inconvenience you are running into.


Also, my hotkey instructions may be rusty, I'm giving them off the top of my head.

Just as a note, a bed can also be assigned as a barracks, you don't actually need a weapon or armor stand.  I assume that will change once weapon and armor stands work properly, but for now, a bed is the only one that serves an extra purpose, besides being the center of the barracks.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2012, 12:36:41 pm »

Also, for training you need a weapon rack, or armour rack. you need to build these as furniture in a workshop first, like a carpenters workshop. make sure you have placed the weapon rack, ('b' - 'r') or armour rack as a building. ('b' - 'a')  Then make a room out of one, ('q' move cursor to the building then 'r' to make a room) and then ('q') to the rack that you made the room out of, and scroll ('-'  '+') through the squads to assign squad A, B and C to be allowed to Train there ('t' when the squad you want is highlighted.)

I make no assumption that you do not know these things already. I only want to be thurough in my search for the inconvenience you are running into.


Also, my hotkey instructions may be rusty, I'm giving them off the top of my head.

Just as a note, a bed can also be assigned as a barracks, you don't actually need a weapon or armor stand.  I assume that will change once weapon and armor stands work properly, but for now, a bed is the only one that serves an extra purpose, besides being the center of the barracks.

But you cannot train at a bed, if I remember correctly.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2012, 01:50:13 pm »

Bed-barracks work fine for training. I use them all the time, since armour and weapon stands have no function outside pleasing nobles.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 02:13:55 pm »

Bed-barracks work fine for training. I use them all the time, since armour and weapon stands have no function outside pleasing nobles.

Good to know, thank you
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2012, 05:58:41 pm »

Bed-barracks work fine for training. I use them all the time, since armour and weapon stands have no function outside pleasing nobles.
I'd beg to differ, the stands can be used outside, while bed need roof. Though it's relatively niche for most players, I tend to set my dwarves up outside. There're also the advantage that you can tell what the area's for at a glance, instead of wondering why a bed's in middle of nowhere, but that's personal preference.
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Re: Something with the military
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2012, 06:16:33 pm »

You can also use a bag or coffer.
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