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Hand Crafted Maps!

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No more Hasting Bezerkers!

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All these new units!

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More Game-Modes!

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I love everything equally!

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I hate it all... V.2.0 was the best.

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Total Members Voted: 7

[Nerjin]

I'd like to point out that in each version of this game there seems to be one unit type who is ungodly powerful... First Archers, then Bezerkers. However now Archers are entirely worthless [My bad again guys] I wonder if Bezerkers will follow this trend?
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Spoiler: Grek’s Actions (click to show/hide)

Cleric 2 casts Haste [Affects: Cleric 1&4, Bezerker 3&4 ]
Bezerker 4 moves to D1 and Pouts [Its highly effective!]
Bezerker 3 moves to E3
Bezerker 3 attacks Paladin 2 [Dead]
Bezerker 3 moves to D3
Cleric 1 moves to B4
Cleric 1 casts Haste [Affects: Cleric 3]
Cleric 4 Casts Heal at B5 [Affects: Bezerker 2 [4/7]]
Cleric 4 moves to B3
Cleric 3 casts Haste [Affects: Bezerker 2 and Cleric 1 ]
Cleric 3 moves to D5
Bezerker 2 moves to D7
Bezerker 2 attacks Archer 4 [1/4]

Spoiler: Kill Count (click to show/hide)

Grek: 4
Tsuchigumo: 1
Zacen: 1
Everyone else: 0

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Players:
Next: Lemon10
Then: Zomara
After That: Greatwyrmgold

[GreatWyrmGold]

Probably. Ha ha, joking. Who knows?

[Grek]

Would it be at all helpful if I told you about my game-breaking strategy for V3.0 now so that you can fix it before I get a chance to use it?

[GreatWyrmGold]

No, tell me so we can both use it!

[Nerjin]

I would appreciate being kept in the loop. Just throwing that out there. I'd prefer if any game-breaking was kept to a minimum. 3 versions in a row that are broken doesn't speak well to my abilities.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Hey, there have been games with .5 more versions with more funding and more balance issues. It's more of a product of complexity*player ingenuity. And lucky you, Bay12 includes some VERY ingenious people...

[Nerjin]

Well true but I'd like for this to be as good as possible so I need to see where the problems are. Seriously ANYTHING that you guys find that may be unfair, or even just annoying to deal with, I'd like to hear about. Even if it's something as simple as "Well the Goblin Tactics make it impossible for people to move when X condition is met in Y placement setting!". The smallest things help.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Sure thing!

[Nerjin]

A new game mode? Seems odd. That's because it is! I just thought it may be an interesting mode to try out.

Spoiler: Game Mode: Rebellion Against the Gods (click to show/hide)

Objective: A variant of Allies. One team of one player [God] versus another team of many [Rebels]. The goal is for your team to be the last one alive. The God has more units than any of the individual Rebel players however so teamwork is essential to victory.
Army Composition: Each Rebel player gets 2 units. The God player receives a number of units equal to the combined forces of the Rebels.
Signing up: To sign up post your color in the forum. Once the teams are chosen one player will be assigned God and the rest Rebels. From there you PM your army composition to the mod. Posting your army composition or your alignment in the forums before the game starts will result in your army composition being randomized.
Turn order: The turn order will proceed always start with the God moving first. Then the Rebels move in an order that will be assigned from the start.
Starting position: Both the God’s and Rebels’ starting location are randomly determined. However the Rebels must choose their individual units starting location one at a time. The order in which they choose is opposite that of the move order.

[Grek]

Ok, breaking strategies:

Take 3 geomancers, a dragon and a warrior or something. Use the geomancers to wall yourself in. Every round, pick a wall and order a geomancer to take it down, have the dragon to shoot out of the new hole and the last two geomancers to patch the hole up. You are now immune to anything that isn't a geomancer or an ogre.

Get two Balors. Or two dragons. Since they're Dark/Fire instead of ranged or arcane, you can get as many as you can afford.

Get two wanderers and six sappers. Round one, move two each sappers onto both adjacent armies and detonate them. Entire enemy army is killed before they can do anything.

[Nerjin]

So the change may be: Limit Geomancers to 1 per army. Impose some limit on Balrgos and Dragons to disallow doubling up on them. Make Sappers unable to kill enemies. Maybe at best they can take them down to 1 health. Also maybe I should make them Arcane. Yeah, they're arcane now.

[Nerjin]

I think you'll find that your strategies are no longer valid [or at least they're less game-breaking. Plus your dragon one could be avoided by simply moving out of the way. Plus your Sapper strategy goes up in flames [I'm clever] if anyone near you has a Dragon or Mage and goes before you. A simple cast of Flare would kill your entire team.

[Grek]

Would prefer to change geomancers so that a given tile can only be effected once per turn by geomancy, instead of nerfing them into the ground like that.
E: Or make it so that the changes take place at the end of your turn, instead of as soon as cast.

[Nerjin]

Did that just now. Also added two new traps!

Wraithsbane Trap: Makes the triggering unit Stealthed for 4 turns. Adds 4 turns to stealth token if your unit is already stealthed.

Defection Trap: You trade the triggering unit to another player for one of their units. The player you switch with and the unit they trade you are entirely random. Also the traded units switch places.

[Tsuchigumo550]

Balancing is BULLSHITEDLY hard, unless there's a very small amount of units. So actually, I'd say you're doing well.