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[joemoben]

Argh, so many questions. Does the dragon leather in game auto add the boost or should I put it on my character sheet? Does the boost kick in only when you have the full set? So much I need to know!

[Ishar]

Oookay, so:

Joemoben: The starting END is 5. You can assign 20 points in addition to this, and you can't go over 10 this way, only if you pay your ass off (150/point). Either way, you still have five more stat points to spend. Also, you start with TWO gladiators, so feel free to enlist another one. Of course if you don't change the equipment, the second one will have to start with copper weaponry, since you used all your gold on Klick Klack.
Also, the AGI boost applies only if you have the full set, but you DO get armor bonus, of course only with body parts covered by the armor, so if somebody slashes your leg, even an adamantine beastplate won't help you. Of course, you can only equip one piece of armor to one of your gladiators, just write it on your character sheet (see the existing ones for reference), and you'll have it during the battle.

Mesor: Shit, that mage is going to kick some serious ass in the long run. I may have to balance magic in the future, we'll see how it turns out.

Tophat: Same thing with the second gladiator (and stats) as Joemoben. I might have clarify these things a bit, I took over Tomio's starting posts more or less word for word. And yes, it's possible to buy equipment at the start.

[TopHat]

Is that 20 points each or 20 points between 2 gladiators?

[IamanElfCollaborator]

I'll fight two kobold thieves.

[mesor]

(( Hah that mage is build largely as a support fighter to keep my gladiators and commander fuzzy boots ( Yes my giant man eating wolf is called commander fuzzy boots, deal with it ) in the fighting. Wait until you see what the next gladiator I'm going to buy is but I need something else first. ))

[Ishar]

Is that 20 points each or 20 points between 2 gladiators?

20 each.

[TopHat]

Is that 20 points each or 20 points between 2 gladiators?

20 each.

Thanks. Sheet updated.

[Ishar]

Spoiler: My own fight (click to show/hide)

The often neglected direwolf sprints forward, eager to get a bite out of the ogre. It succeeds as much as it could be possible - the sheer size difference prevents serious damage, but the enormous combatant stumbles backwards, and loses its focus for a moment. Amroth tries to use this to the team's advantage, and fires off his lightning, but misses his mark, hitting the wall behind the ogre. Ishar reaches the enemy right after this, and takes a swing at the ogre, but the attack is deflected.
Now the surpruse advantage is gone, and the angry ogre uses its huge club to bash the direwolf. The agile beast narrowly evades, but can't possibly retaliate. Sir joins the fray as well, but his attack only enrages the ogre further. Amroth fires off another lightning, and the result is even worse than before: he hits Sir in the back. Was it not for the mithril armor, the dwarf could have been killed - this way, he is only propelled forward, and hits the ground hard.
Ishar clashes with the ogre to draw the attention away from his teammate, using his superior agility to evade the club, and slash the ogre's arm a few times. The direwolf helps out by jumping on its back, clawing the back of its head. The ogre shakes off the beast, throws it in the air, and bats it away with the heavy club. The wolf is unlikely to get up again after that. Ishar tries to attack again, but he gets knocked back with the ogre's off hand. The towering giant moves in for the kill, but he gets a surprise stab in the back from Sir, who back got up on his feet. The mithril greatsword cuts deep in the flesh, and the ogre falls to its knees. It can't dodge any of Ishar's and Sir's attack after this point, and Amroth1s third and final lightning finally hits its mark, destroying the opponent.

That's 500 hard-earned gold.

Spoiler: Mesor's fight (click to show/hide)

The batman flies ahead of the knights, and manages to dodge Thranduil's first arrow. However, it doesn't manage to dodge the incoming alpha direwolf, which tackles it in the air, bringing it to the ground. Celeborn moves in with his claws, and decapitates the underground critter with one superb move.
Radaghast manages to freeze one of the knights, but the other one reaches the fighters. Celeborn evades his initial charge, and Thranduil fires off a shot - to no avail, it bounces off the armor. Radaghast tries an ice ball, that seems to work better, as the knight is knocked off his feet, and can't get up in that heavy armor. The alpha rushes toward him, as its killer instinct kicked in immediately when it saw the fighter lying on the ground. The knight loses hold of his weapon, but the direwolf's attacks only irritate him, preventing getting up, but not dealing any damage.
Celeborn tries to help the direwolf, but the other knight thawed out, and forces him into a duel. Thranduil fires off a few arrows, but he is not really useful in this battle. It would take a truly outstanding marksman to find chinks in this armor. Celeborn's claws aren't much better either, and the knight knocks him out after a few exchange of blows. Radaghast manages to blast the head of the knight on the ground, killing him, but the new arrival recognises him as the primary danger, and tackles him to the ground, pounding at him with his mace, breaking several bones. Radaghast is obviously out of this one, too.
As both Thrandui land the direwolf are incapable to penetrate the knight's armor, the announcer calls the fight.

You gain 350 gold for the killed batman and knight, but both Radaghast and Celeborn start the next fight with half HP, or sit the next one out completely.

Spoiler: Tophat's fight (click to show/hide)

Tyd starts the fight with a solid shot, hitting the enemy kobold in the upper arm. This stuns the kobold enough for Ettad to charge in with a shield bash, knocking over the much smaller kobold. He tries a quick kill, aiming for the kobold's neck with his axe, but the small thing manages to slip away, Tyd fires his crossbow again, and while he doesn't manage to hit, he startles his kin enough to give Ettad another shot at gutting the enemy. However, luck is not on his side today: he fails completely, and the kobold even manages to slash his left leg badly. The falling Ettad takes another swing at his opponent, this time hitting him square in the face, but only with the back of his axe. The kobold stumbles backward, and Tyd shoots him right between his eyes.

You gain 40 gold. This should have been easier, you got extremely bad rolls.

Spoiler: Tsuchigumo's fight (click to show/hide)

The lions charge forward, and Sanya fires his flamethrower, with awesome results. On of the lions in incinerated, and the other one is now on fire, madly rolling on the floor. Nikolai calmly cuts its throat. The crowd boos, they wanted a better show for their money.

You gain 100 gold, you lucky double-critical bastard.

Spoiler: Elfcollaborator's fight (click to show/hide)

Mog welcomes the incoming kobolds with a flamethrower, and while they take considerable damage, they don't slow down. Cadmus manages to shoot one of them right in the throat, but the other reaches Mog. The kobold stabs at him with a large dagger, but Mog counters with a soul-shattering firebolt, shooting the kobold in the air. The lifeless, burnt corpse land in the far corner of the arena.

You easily gain 80 gold.

[Ishar]

I use my winnings to buy Hydra leather leggings for Ishar, level up lightning for Amroth, and boost Sir's END to 8.

Spoiler: My team (click to show/hide)

Name: Ishar
Traits:
STR: 10
END: 6
AGI: 10
INT: 4
Backstory:
He was a sellsword for quite a while, but then he decided that it was simpler and potentially more lucrative to voluntarily sign himself up as a gladiator. This was kind of convenient for him, as he was and still is a free man, so he can manage himself, and keep all the winnings. Aims to put together a formidable team to live a life of luxury. Kind of a selfish prick.
In battle, he favors quick movement, light armor, and a single two-handed weapon.
Class: Warrior
Weapon: Iron sword (two-handed)
Equipment: Hydra leather armor, Hydra leather leggings

Name: 'Sir' (real name unknown)
Traits:
STR: 12
END: 8
AGI: 6
INT: 2
Class: Warrior
Weapon: Mithril sword (two-handed)
Equipment: Mithril armor

Name: Amroth
Race: Human
Traits:
STR:5
END: 5
AGI: 10
INT: 10
Backstory:
Class: Air Mage
Weapon: Staff
Equipment: Robe
Spells: Gust of Wind lvl 1, Second Wind lvl 1, Fly lvl 1, Lightning lvl 3

Direwolf

I will try to go for the special without any assistance from the other teams. All I should need are some luckier lightning strikes...

[mesor]

I'll take 5 tigers for my whole group.
I'll buy level 2 multi heal for Radaghast ( 100 )
I'll buy copper armor for my Alpha. ( 100 )
I'll upgrade Celeborns claws from bronze to steel ( 200 )
30 gold remaining.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name : Thranduil Levan
Traits :  A master ranger from the woodland realm he grew bored of he's long life among the trees and seeking excitement came with he's brother to try he's luck in the arena.
Str : 7( 8-1 )
End : 6
Agi : 10 ( 9+1 )
Int : 2
Backstory :
Class : Ranger
Weapon : Bow
Equipment : Leather armor ( 150 ) Leather Leggings ( 90 ) Leather boots ( 40 ) Leather cape ( 60 ) Wooden Buckler ( 50 )
Other information : Has serious issues with goblins , will show them no mercy.

Name :  Celeborn Levan
Traits :
Str : 12 ( 11+1 )
End : 6
Agi : 8 ( 7+1 )
Int : 1
Backstory : A master of stealth and light weapons he grew bored of he's long life in the woodland realm and came to the arena with he's brother to try he's luck.
Class :  Rogue
Weapon : Claws ( Bronze. )
Equipment : Leather armor ( 150 ) Leather leggings ( 90 ) Leather boots ( 40 ) Leather cape ( 60 ) Wooden Buckler ( 50 )

Name : Radaghast Brown.
Traits : Strength 5 , Endurance 6 , Agility 6 , Intelligence 8.
Class : Mage , Water alignment.
Weapon : Pike.
Spells : Ice ball level 3 , Heal level 1 , Freeze level 2 , Multi heal level 2
Equipment : Leather leggings ( 90 ) Leather armor ( 150 ) Leather boots ( 40 ) Leather cloak ( 60 ).

Alpha Direwolf

(( Huh doing the same challenge over? ))

[Ishar]

(( Huh doing the same challenge over? ))

I never did it before, I went for a knight and berserker.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Moar fighting!

I want to fight two direwolves.

[mesor]

(( Meant doing it over in general not you in specific. Although it does make the alpha a bit less special if anybody who has not done the challenge can go and do it now and get one as well especially when the older teams will more then likely shred a group of dire wolves without a problem unless they get horrible rolls. ))

[Ishar]

I intend to change the special to something more... managable for new teams, giving them a chance to catch up a bit.

Also, I want to revisit the idea of player vs player combat, but I don't know how I should determine the winnings. I don't want to calculate the total worth of each team (equipment, spells, stats, pets, whatnot), and currently held gold fluctuates too much, and tends not to represent a team's strength at all. I suppose we could simply do an X gold per gladiator syste, but again, that's not fair, since Sanya and Nikolai could wipe the floor with most three-men teams, so valuing them LESS is not exactly logical.
Or I could just say a bullshit, approximate number. Currently, I think beating Mesor's team would be worth around 500, and beating newcomers like Tophat could be around 150.

Or we could introduce a betting system. If you have the gold, you can offer it up as a reward if somebody manages to beat you. If you win, you get double from the arena administration. If you lose, the challenger gets your offered gold. The twist would be that you can put the gold up for grabs, and fight a normal round, but it would take the action of the challenger to fight. Confident (but clever) gladiators could earn much this way, for example:
-A bets 500 gold that he can take on anyone, fights X monsters, gets 200 gold
-B fights A and loses, A gets 500 gold
-C fights A and loses, A gets another 500 gold
-D fights A and wins, A loses 500, D gets 500
-Sum: A got 700 gold, D got 500, B and C got jack shit.
Of course, it would be possible to bet on other players. Perhaps even against monsters, and it would be up to the announcer (me) to determine the odds. For example, betting on a fight with Elfcollaborator against a kobold is not possible (no-brainer), Tsuchigumo against an ogre would be 1:1, my team against a roc would be 1:4, Mesor against two berserkers would be 1:0.5, things like that.

How do you like that?
Another thing: I want to do something about animal training, warbeasts are not really useful against bigger or armored opponent right now. I'll figure something out soon, but if you have any suggestions, I'm up for anything at this point. Rangers need a serious buff as well, for similar reasons. There aren't many options to make them stronger now, aside from leveling up agility, and using special arrows. Actually, I don't have ANY idea how to make this work, so any input about rangers would be much appreciated.

[mesor]

Bows is simple.
Just use different types of bows, same upgrade system as the close range weapons.

You've got hunting bow, recurve bow, long bow, compound bow.
Just put them in any order you like and then each one is stronger just like the material system for other weapons.

War beasts you could either give them special training to aim for weak or points or use basic tactics.
Like my Alpha could have gone for the knights head and ripped off the helmet with his mouth allowing my ranger to aim for a headshot.
Or it could of gone for the knee joint and just crushed the armor in to cripple a leg.
Or alternatively you could just allow people to buy upgrades like with my Alpha you could pull some teeth and replace them with sharper metal teeth or do the same with claws to allow it to penetrate armor.
Or give it permanent buffs like increased strength or speed and just say it's been enhanced with magic.