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[motorbitch]

Kerberos Productions just started a new kickstarter campaign to found a rogue-style game called The Pit.

The website of the project is can be found here.

The announcement of the project by the ceo of kerberos can be found here.


a playable demo version the pit just has been released for public testing. you can dowload it from a mirror posted in this thread.
note that this version does not support other than english versions of windows yet.

a version for other then english windows versoins can be found here

if the game wont start for you after install, you proably installed the game by running the pit.msi.
make sure you run setup.exe instead.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

I'd like them to succeed because I love SotS to bits but after what happened to SotS2, I lost confidence in them.

[jocan2003]

Ok wtf is that o.O... do they REALLY hate that IP that much o.O.... I mean the first SWOTS was very nice, with addon was awesome... Got SWOTS 2, some nice changes but overall was a let down, the changes to the tactic part was interesting with the pane and all that... and now that O.O, feel like they are hitting the IP as hard as they can as much as possible with every *sequel-thing*..... please for the love of god.... if you cant bring anything to your game, just let it die or sell it i dont know....

[Duuvian]

I liked Sword of the Stars 2; it just runs awful slow on my computer so I never got very far. Also the UI was sorta clunky.

[lordcooper]

As much as I love SotS, these guys don't exactly have a lot of goodwill from the gaming community at present.  Crowd sourcing is a pretty ballsy move.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Most of the blame for SotS 2 seems to be directed at Paradox for pushing the game too early. However not coming even close to development goals and having a planned product with less features than the original SotS + expansions doesn't exactly make Kerberos blameless either. 
This is indeed a ballsy move considering their reputation and if I was in their shoes not one I would be willing to gamble on.

Self-publishing (assuming they can achieve it) might either benefit Kerberos or completely destroy it. I guess either way it's going to be interesting to watch. I do hope they can produce an interesting game, SotS was pretty decent.

[Shadowgandor]

For some reason, I think they're using this project to fund SotS2. I am basing this on barely anything but yea..

[Brons]

What's next, the guys from Big Rigs starting a kickstarter?

These guys have no credit at all and you should probably stay away from this disaster waiting to happen.

[Neonivek]

I'd like them to succeed because I love SotS to bits but after what happened to SotS2, I lost confidence in them.

I played Sword of the Stars 2 and I honestly have no idea why the first game was considered good... at all.

The second is like the SLOWEST 4X GAME EVER!

Well perhaps not slower then Aurora but then again it isn't one set against another.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

This horseshit with established gaming studios making kickstarters for their projects needs to end. It's there for people without the ways and means to do something like that already, hence asking for random people to donate to the cause. A game studio which is [obviously] already able to produce AAA-quality [argue all you wish but SOTS++ was a large project] videogames deserves no free money from anyone nor will it if anyone has any sense.

[lordcooper]

The publisher is the one who makes all the money, not the development studio.  This is their attempt to change that for themselves.

[Brons]

They are an established studio but I doubt any publisher would want to get into bed with them and invest money into their projects.

[Neonivek]

The publisher is the one who makes all the money, not the development studio.  This is their attempt to change that for themselves.

Well not just that but crowd funding gives them the most creative freedom.

They can intentionally forgo huge profits for getting the game greater. Of course this also means they can also mess their own game for profits and do so because they know ALL the money will go to them.

Or intentionally underdeveloping the game to earn money off the kickstarter (Which I forgot the exact term for this. It tends to be illegal in pretty much every other situation)

[Dr. Johbson]

If you thought SoTS2 was bad you should see Fort Zombie. Good concept, extremely terrible execution.

What I'm saying is I'm never buying anything from Kerberos ever again. So now another SoTS game with !Flexible Funding! is just a joke. Disgraced to live in the same city as the studio.
Lets play "Spot the good games."

This horseshit with established gaming studios making kickstarters for their projects needs to end. It's there for people without the ways and means to do something like that already, hence asking for random people to donate to the cause. A game studio which is [obviously] already able to produce AAA-quality [argue all you wish but SOTS++ was a large project] videogames deserves no free money from anyone nor will it if anyone has any sense.

I think the combined 9 million donated between Wasteland 2, Project Eternity, and the Doublefine Adventure alone proves that it can be used by those who are not just a start-up company.

[motorbitch]

The publisher is the one who makes all the money, not the development studio.  This is their attempt to change that for themselves.

Well not just that but crowd funding gives them the most creative freedom.

this, and without a publisher, no publisher can force them to publish unfinished games

btw, of cause i was dissapointed by the awful game sots2 was launch, too. on the other hand, by now the game is in almost perfect shape. by now, its by far my favorite 4x. ever.