DeathswordTiruin: First you attempt to defend the Prince (despite IO not being under attack and being called on it by Meph) to look loyal, then when others (Caz and myself) pointed that out, you deflected it by saying it was a "Reaction Test", which I claimed was BS. Then you made up some crap about me mentioning my survival and panicking, to I called you out on. You then proceeded to call me "jumpy" to once more deflect the attention from you.
You are scum, Tiruin. Attack Tiruin
...Do you read my posts in a coherent way? I didn't make up crap in mentioning your survival and panicking. I
asked you. The following dialogue fell into you going defensive. The defensive part, in the literal and literary sense, you did not point, I have to say.
On the first bolded part, you say it as if that was my intention when I already said it was a reaction test. Stop twisting my words. Second bolded part, it was logically concluded from your antics, and I believe that I can't deflect attention - everyone
reads what is posted.
The situation I said about survival and panicking was related to the question I asked you hypothetically. You responded with aggression.
Let's follow the dotted line, shall we? | Deathsword: Suppose you're a Traitor Swordsmaster, how would you go about in using your abilities for your wincon?
As for your question: I would wait until most players have already defended before using my second attack, to increase the chances of hitting.
Increase the chances of hitting? There is a %? Anyway, what would you do if you'd get called out on it? How does attacking after most have defended seem to you, if you were a loyalist?
No, there isn't a %, but if I were to use it after most people had used their defends, then the chances of someone stopping my attack would decrease. Your question: if one attacks the Prince, then of course he is scummy. Attacking other players without a case is also scummy. But if you do have a case, then the scummy-ness of the act would depend on the case itself (if it's a good one or just a lot of BS).
I didn't say anything about the presence of a case. Anyway, hypothetically, why would you attack a player without a case anyway? If others have defended, it means progress and thus, ideas have been given. Why would you bring in the obvious? Back to being a traitor, when would you think is the best time to attack the Prince.
I stated all possibilities for the sake of completeness. And I think I already said what is the best time to attack the Prince as a traitor, but here is the answer anyway: when, at least, half the players are dead. The best scenario would be if one or more other players have already attacked him, thus attracting attention away from you.
-snip- I stated all possibilities for the sake of completeness. And I think I already said what is the best time to attack the Prince as a traitor, but here is the answer anyway: when, at least, half the players are dead. The best scenario would be if one or more other players have already attacked him, thus attracting attention away from you.
But here, you don't know who your allies are - town or scum. Can you expound on that best scenario further? I find it hard to see when a player feels confident to attack the prince. Also, why panic about your own survival when attention is equal? The last part of the bolded portion seems like a badly thought diversion attempt.
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Afterwards, retaliation ensues. Nice OMGUS...It hurts me muchly. [Spoiler'd for readability]
MephThere is One unresolved attack: Deathsword attacking Tiruin
Unresolved? He put it in red?
IronyOwlTiruin:
You quoted, but did not respond to, my questions. Why? Too difficult, figured you could go back and work out an answer for them later but then forgot?
Also, another thing occurred to me. You made the same mistake in your RVS question to Toony. If defending me was just a reaction test, what was asking Toony a question that didn't make sense?
I messed up my formatting there because I posted that at...a very very late hour in the night. Sorry for that.
> Never post when under mental and physical fatigue.
> People's reactions are different no matter what exists, pertaining to what is posted.
> If someone clearly points a fact out, occasionally, people will repeat the point that needs to be taken in correction, parroting it in a way that follows what was originally pointed out first [ie, the 'expected' answer to a question]
> @2nd part: I wanted to see how his thinking pattern was in that type of situation.
Also, what do you think about roleclaiming early in game?
DariushExplain your suspicions and how you came up to them.
Nice job ignoring my post and my questions to you (#61).
It sounded more like an insult to me than a question - and if a question, a hypothetical one. But thanks for reminding me.
You didn't answer me either, though.
Caz
Tiruin: It's been stated that defending is reactionary. Are you pre-emptively defending the prince in an attempt to make you look better?
Reaction Testing. I did that to see how others would react if I stated such. My defense has not been used yet as of this moment.
This is utter bullshit. Which reaction did you expect, other than the inevitable accusation of trying to look towny and a question about you not reading the rules?
It was a poorly made concept, now that I see it. What was in my mind was the fact on differing reactions to a simple statement, and so I did such.
CazIn general, I think other people taking initiative is important for us to get reads on them, so I'm less inclined to try to order everyone to swarm someone I think is scummy or back off of someone I think isn't.
It's not a bad idea in some ways, but I'd be concerned about the lack of actions to scumhunt off of.
Alright, seems like a fair strategy. Since we're running out of time and I don't want to action too near the deadline I'll be decisive.
I believe Deathsword to be a traitor. Attack Deathsword.
So you attack Deathsword because of the lack of time?
JimJim
On 'random' killing, how would you best utilize your only tools [attack/defense - taking the same role said earlier] to find scum? Would you follow the Prince's order and tag along in the hopes they get Loyalists instead, or work on an inference on the number of probable allies you have before striking down your target?
I have no idea what the hell you're asking here.
I'll restate, mostly because of me posting at a time inconvenient to my health
= Do you think using your attacks in conjunction with whoever the Prince attacks will be better than following your own leads? Putting in the knowledge that the Prince always listens to everyone.
If I have my timezone-tell skills right, we've got about ~29 hours and 40 minutes from this post until day end.