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[Kebooo]

I too would claim palaces galore if I had been imperial fleet commander and had the good fortune to hijack rebel cruisers we chance happened upon. Surely it is unreasonable to hold our house to the same military standard as that of a house that controlled the fleet. If we could gives orders to such a grand armada, a hundred rebel worlds and more would fall to us. And now that all may see, clearly we have invested more into Cadavus than simply taking outlying farms. We have industry, hospitals, starports and factories.

We could have co-existed peacefully with the Li Halan but for the Right of Passage issue. Would the lord regent be at ease putting his people at risk if Lazarus had threatened his ships with destruction? A standing threat - Li Halan space was hostile and anything I sent would be shot down. This new policy was practically a declaration of war, a blockade, if you will. We had no moral qualms with taking back Cadavus from a house that blockades us.

[mainiac]

The house Decados has stolen a holy relic from our house.  This is an item they have no possible claim upon but claim by theft.

We move that Decados be forbidden from moving this relic off world so that they can not hide it from our liberation force.

Turn sent.

[Kebooo]

And what, may we ask, is a "liberation force"? Shall I line my soldiers up for your firing squads too?

Theft? It is claimed through war. What do you expect in war? I offered you free evacuation of all of your holdings on Cadavus, unconditional. You refused this offer. You had your chance and squandered it. That is a relic native to Cadavus. It was being used to research heretical technologies that the inquisition had come to root out. I have only done the Pancreator's will. Was it "theft" to take cities you controlled too? Will I be given back my strategic bomber shot down by lowly rebel partisans you brought in for your "crusade"? I would sooner see the relic destroyed in a freighter in space than have it returned to a maniacal house. You have no other but yourself to blame for what has transpired on the surface of Cadavus. If you had not blockaded my house from an absolutely crucial connection to the throne world, we could have co-existed in peace. We still could have lived in peace if you had not only colonized Cadavus, but refused to leave. You lit the fire yourself. And now you beg others to help do your unholy dirty work for you? For shame, you do not conduct yourself as a brave lord should.

[mainiac]

Theft? It is claimed through war. What do you expect in war?

And thus we can immediately dispense with the pretext for your war.  You are grabbing all you can, no more no less.

Thanks for making that quick, bub.

[Kebooo]

No, it doesn't quite work that way when you were offered a chance to take everything, every last resource, every last relic and soldier off the surface of the planet. Your house either saw fit to: 1) play the victim and seek military support to help win your war for you, or 2) didn't think I would capture everything as quickly as I could. Perhaps a combination of both? Either way, you had your chance to keep your relic. I made it clear there was no alternative to your leaving but war. And in war, yes, I will kill every last one of your soldiers and grab every last possession of yours on Cadavus I can. That is war. It is clearly not confined to only Cadavus (though this is where I will leave it) considering if I sent a ship from Cadavus on its way to Tethys, you would shoot it down. So spare me the nonsense. You created my pretext for war. Without you on Cadavus, I have no cause or interest in warring with a house that has a superior fleet. I did not even expect to find or capture a relic on the surface when I declared war. But continue to play the victim and perhaps you may con an unwitting noble to your cause.

[Il Palazzo]

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Drat, I'm beginning to lose track of all my units and what they were supposed to be doing. If this continues I'll have to keep a journal with coordinates, and mindmaps, and long-term plans, and whatnot.

I should've stuck to my homeworld.

[Kebooo]

Turn sent.

[mainiac]

Another damn long rant

This is starting to get unhinged.  Brevity is golden.

Look, you attacked me without warning and are now grabbing everything you can.  It's pretty simple.

[Kebooo]

So requesting you leave Cadavus or there will be a conflict is not warning of an attack? Or should I have said "I will attack next year" and allow you to enact some kind of scorched earth policy, or entrench your positions to better kill my men with? Come now, our actions have been normal and expected in a war for control of a planet. All of the other nobles can see this clear as day. They may disagree with my choice for war.

In other news, the holy church has burned a Li Halan lab. And still they do not comment on their illegal research of forbidden technologies. Forbidden technology to better help them gain military supremacy over us all at any cost. It is good a relic that was helping them sin against the church has left their hands.

[Il Palazzo]

I'd say that Li Halan dabbling in forbiddent technology is damn worrying too, but then I already had brought it before the senate a few years back, and haven't heard a single word of an explanation from them since.
How long, I wonder, before we see assassins prowling the streets of Byzantium?

[mainiac]

So requesting you leave Cadavus or there will be a conflict is not warning of an attack?

You literally attacked me the same turn you issued this "warning".  That's not how warnings work.

[Kebooo]

I gave an ultimatum, which in effect warns you of the consequences. It makes no sense whatsoever to essentially declare war in any other year but the year I will strike. Otherwise you know my intent and can strike before I do. What sensible commander would do so?

Option A: You leave and there is no war.
Option B: You do not leave and there is war.

If you choose option B, why should I wait to attack?

[Aqizzar]

I gave an ultimatum, which in effect warns you of the consequences. It makes no sense whatsoever to essentially declare war in any other year but the year I will strike. Otherwise you know my intent and can strike before I do. What sensible commander would do so?

Option A: You leave and there is no war.
Option B: You do not leave and there is war.

If you choose option B, why should I wait to attack?

There is the third option: he does not leave, and there is no war.  Citizens loyal to different Houses can exist on the same planet without taking up arms.  I find it more than a bit telling that after years of such hostile talk between these two Houses, only once the Fleet is no longer under the command of Li Halan does Decados begin issuing ultimatums, ultimatums Li Halan is given no time to fulfill before being struck by lightning attacks, and still you claim to be the aggrieved party here.  Only the Decados would consider an artillery barrage a warning shot.

These pretensions at victimhood are trying my patience and wasting my attention.  If you wanted a war, you now have one.  If you did not want a war, then you should have taken greater steps to avoid one.  If believe that you were wronged by Li Halan's presence on Cadavus, then retaliation was in your right, but if you wish any claim of intentions at peaceful resolution to be taken seriously then you should have given your opponent at least the time necessary to respond.

As to the matter of the Church's Inquisition, I do not question the directives of his Holy Patriarch's envoys, whether I consider the scrutinized my friend or foe.  While their cause may cast the character of Li Halan into doubt, we are all imperfect in the judgement of the Pancreator, and the actions on Cadavus can speak for themselves.

I find myself drawn inexorably towards casting a judgement on the matter.  I suggest both parties choose their next actions carefully.

(Turn isn't sent yet, but will be within an hour.)

[Kebooo]

So my people were to abide Li Halan occupation on Cadavus even while they would eradicate any future ships I tried to send to Byzantium II? Is this justice? Surely such an unfair verdict could never be reached.

My house never wanted war because we never wanted the Li Halan on Cadavus. We truly, in our wildest dreams, did not imagine they would be so brazen to jointly occupy a world, without warning or broadcast of intent, with a house they had made their hostile enemy by way of violent threat and military blockade. They had a chance to respond to the ultimatum and were unwilling to leave peacefully. It is suicide to allow the house with a stronger fleet time to prepare their armada so they can win that war. Make no mistake, if I had given this "warning" for the Li Halan to prepare their forces, I would have been handing them Cadavus. This was my only course of action to see the Li Halan removed from a planet. No, there cannot be joint colonization of a planet with a house that blockades me. It is easy for the Hawkwood and Hazat to co-exist. I am even preparing to co-exist with the al-Malik on another world. But it is unfair to ask my people to accept blockade and see our lands taken by the enemy.

[mainiac]

Keboo, if the occupation was so illegitimate you could have easily protested at any time.  But you didn't.  Instead you just started shooting.

The house Li Halan moves, that in order for this conflict to be de-escalated, ship to ship combat be banned over Cadavus and planetary bombardment be likewise forbidden.  If either party breaks this rule, their worlds are to be placed under blockade by the fleet.