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[Kebooo]

Is it safe to assume there is more than one relic in play?

[mainiac]

No, just that you greatly underestimated the power of cruisers.

Gameplay question: Why was I consulted for a vote during my turn?  Isn't the vote supposed to wait another 10 turns?
I think that Aqizzer might have violated house rule 40: http://website.lineone.net/~rwein/nova/houserules.htm

[Aqizzar]

No, just that you greatly underestimated the power of cruisers.

Gameplay question: Why was I consulted for a vote during my turn?  Isn't the vote supposed to wait another 10 turns?
I think that Aqizzer might have violated house rule 40: http://website.lineone.net/~rwein/nova/houserules.htm

But... It's not an election year.  It's a couple of years after an election year.  It was turn 52, if anything I held off on doing this until after the last election for precisely that reason.

Man, I don't even really know how the Emperor election mechanics work.  But let's be honest, how longer much longer did you want me to drag this out?

[mainiac]

Well all I know is that I got the vote prompt.  I'm assuming that was not supposed to happen.

[Kebooo]

Didn't I have 6 cruisers and 2 starbases to 5 cruisers (in terms of indirect phase units). I must have had profoundly awful luck in that battle to have killed so few ships. I'd have to think it's either terrible luck or relics are far more game breaking than I remembered.

It's not an election year, no house rule has been broken.

After you declare yourself Emperor, an election will occur the next turn. If you win that election, you continue as Regent for another 10 turns. (This is an extension, not a new term of office, so you can't reassign the Ministries.) At the end of those 10 turns, there is another election, and if you win that one too, then you win the game.

[mainiac]

I think I might have miscounted.  It was probably that I lost 1-1-1 in the first engagement and lost a couple others in the later engagements.  Sometimes it's hard to remember something done at the start of the turn when the turn lasts for half an hour.

After you declare yourself Emperor, an election will occur the next turn. If you win that election, you continue as Regent for another 10 turns. (This is an extension, not a new term of office, so you can't reassign the Ministries.) At the end of those 10 turns, there is another election, and if you win that one too, then you win the game.

Ah thank you.

This explains our regents strange behavior I think.  He surely agreed to a conspiracy with the Caliph to stage this second election and support the Caliph in it.  In exchange he will no doubt become fleet commander again.

Seeing as I did not understand this game mechanic and Il Palazzo has not sent his turn yet, would you guys mind if I replayed my turn so that I can cast my vote competently instead?  If nothing else it will give Keboo a less brutal treatment at the hands of the rng.

[Kebooo]

I don't mind given that you didn't know the mechanic, though part of me is almost rooting for some brilliant plan of Aqizzar's that lands him as emperor. I admit it would be rather unexpected.

[mainiac]

I played the turn again and sent it.

Kebooo's fleet still got wiped out but I lost an additional fighter squadron this time.

I think the key is that I was able to move in more fighters before the attack, matching him in fighters while I outnumbered him in capital craft.  If my cruisers had been wasting shots against fighters it would have been different but the matchups were pretty much exactly how I wanted them.  The rod of smiting also made a big difference.  A lot of decados ships survived the first round but were heavily damaged, making them easily pickings when I launched the second attack.

[Aqizzar]

I don't mind given that you didn't know the mechanic, though part of me is almost rooting for some brilliant plan of Aqizzar's that lands him as emperor. I admit it would be rather unexpected.

If it works like the normal Regent elections, I think that means all I actually have to do is not lose, not necessarily win the election.

And if not, at least I'm finally doing something.

Seeing as I did not understand this game mechanic and Il Palazzo has not sent his turn yet, would you guys mind if I replayed my turn so that I can cast my vote competently instead?  If nothing else it will give Keboo a less brutal treatment at the hands of the rng.

As long as Palazzo doesn't mind, I certainly don't.

Also, I'll give you guys fair warning right now: I'm going to sleep right now, and I have a full day planned tomorrow.  It's likely I won't do my next turn until well into Sunday.

[Il Palazzo]

Ok, now I understand Aqizzar's strange move: there is a great deal of misinformation about the way the declarations of Emperor work.

When you declare yourself an Emperor, you need to WIN the election next turn to maintain the claim, and then WIN again in ten years time. Draws are not enough.
When you draw, the situation simply reverts to the one from before the claim - the Pretender goes back to Regent, and the ministries remain unchanged.

Nova webpage has it all:
http://website.lineone.net/~rwein/nova/truth.htm#emperor
(the text in red)


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[Kebooo]

House Decados unconditionally sues for peace with the invaders. We will revoke all claim to both Cadavus and Tethys in order to secure a cease fire, with no other conditions.

(Otherwise we are going to remain obsolete. My cruisers and star bases didn't do much with that salvo they had. How depressing. It probably has something to do with the relic + battlemaster combo)

[Margrave]

This is an awful lot of voting for a game about Imperial Domination.

I would be the first to admit that Aqizzar so far has reigned and guided as steward for the Empire the longest (and indeed the only steward) I am not entirely convinced that the Empire is in any state for us to be compelled to Unity. Mighty Regent, what makes you the best candidate for the throne? Inquiring voters want to know.

[mainiac]

House Decados unconditionally sues for peace with the invaders. We will revoke all claim to both Cadavus and Tethys in order to secure a cease fire, with no other conditions.

(Otherwise we are going to remain obsolete. My cruisers and star bases didn't do much with that salvo they had. How depressing. It probably has something to do with the relic + battlemaster combo)

I would make four demands as the terms for such a surrender:
1) Recognition of certain territories as belonging to Li Halan as war reparations:
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2) Submission of the remaining Decados nobles to a trial for their actions in breach of imperial law.  Your leader is to be transported to Byzantium to stand before the imperial senate, landing on the parade grounds before the imperial palace.  There will wait for justice guarded by a detachment from each Hazat, al Malik and Hawkwood.  The trial will continue until a 3/4th majority vote of the noble houses decides on a verdict.  No Decados forces would be allowed to return to Byzantium so long as the trial is ongoing or it will be considered an attempt at escape.  Your remaining nobles are to be transported to Aragon where they will be left under the watchful eye of Lord Hazat.
3) The Decados forces make penance for their role in undermining the crusade by joining in the holy war themselves.  I believe that an invasion force is needed for Daishan and your troops could no doubt redeem themselves by filling that role
4) As payment for the holy relics destroyed, house Li Halan will take control of the Decados family scepters until either granted or denied control by the imperial Senate in the trial on Byzantium.  You no doubt will wish to relocate your palace so this does not interfere with administration.

[Il Palazzo]

4) As payment for the holy relics destroyed, house Li Halan will take control of the Decados family scepters until either granted or denied control by the imperial Senate in the trial on Byzantium.  You no doubt will wish to relocate your palace so this does not interfere with administration.

Such an arrangement would be highly detrimental to any future prospects of peace in the galaxy.

I'd like to ask Lord Mainiac to refrain from usurping the will of the senate by involving other houses' participation in the resolution of his war, without consulting them beforehand.
I'm deeply moved by the trust he obviously places in my person by suggesting I should guard Decados nobility, but I don't remember ever being asked to.

[mainiac]

Might I ask what alternative compensation the noble houses might suggest is appropriate for the illegal destruction of priceless holy artifacts?