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[Mullet Master]

How old do kids need to be before they can work?

roughly 10. At this age, they function as roughly 1/2 an adult. At 17 they reach full adulthood.

[mesor]

Nice time to set the little buggers to work.

[GreatWyrmGold]

This is bad. First, let's name the kid...Filium Primum Draco?

Spoiler: Turn 2 (click to show/hide)

Year 11: Magnum farms, Speciosam tries to heal the child and get someone to build a building, helping if needed. Wealth: 5g3s minus building costs.
Year 12: Magnum farms, Speciosam weaves. Wealth: 6 gold, minus building costs and plus weaving profits.
Years 13-20: Once I get an estimate on building cost and weaving profits, I'll figure this out.

How much would it cost to have a building built for Speciosam's loom, and how much could that bring in annually? On average.

[mesor]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Y1.
Leon: Build house
Alexandria : Rest, Recover, Take .5 additional food this year.
Y2.
Leon: Build house
Alexandria : Have Baby
Y3
 Leon: Build house
Alexandria: Rest, Recover
Y4
Leon: Build house
Alexandria:  Have baby
Chrissy: Farm
Y5
Leon: Farm
Alexandria: Rest, Recover
Chrissy: Farm
Y6
Leon: Lumber
Alexandria: Farm
Chrissy: Farm
Y7
Leon: Hunting.
Alexandria: Farm
Chrissy: Farm
Y8
Leon: Lumber
Alexandria: Farm
Chrissy: Farm
Damion: Farm
Y9:
Leon: Rest
Alexandria: Rest
Chrissy: Rest
Damion: Rest
Y10:
Leon: Go to town to sell Lumber
Alexandria: Farm
Chrissy: Apprentice as a Seamstress
Damion: Apprentice as Carpenter

Child 1 = Chrissy.
Child 2, Deceased.
Child 3 = Damion.

(( Are we allowed to marry off our kids once they come of age? ))

[Mullet Master]

This is bad. First, let's name the kid...Filium Primum Draco?
How much would it cost to have a building built for Speciosam's loom, and how much could that bring in annually? On average.

You receive a quote on the building from a carpenter from a nearby town. It will take 8 sp and two years for a basic workshop, but the offer must be accepted by 1493. They will haul the loom for free, but the loom still costs 1gp.


Second, there's no guaranteed profits. I want to get this in the open, to all players. Just because you made approximately what you expected in farming does not mean it will happen again and again, you really need to do some thought about what is important in the world of the characters. Over time , you will shift away from specific tasks and into thinking about investments.

That's part of the "game" portion of this.. it's up to you to decide whether it is worth the risk. I will tell you Speci is the first craftsperson in the village, and that with harsh winters cloth (and therefore blankets, clothing, etc) is probably the trade good in highest demand locally.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That's what the "on average" means. I just want a rough estimate so I don't run myself into the ground for thinking the loom would make an annual gold piece when the average or estimate is closer to 2.5 silver pieces.

[Nirur Torir]

Baby 1 is named Lucas.
Baby 2 is named Maria.

Spoiler: House Kappel Actions (click to show/hide)

Year 1:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm

Year 2:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Make baby

Year 3:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Make baby

Year 4:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Farm

Year 5:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Clear land
Lucas - Clear land
Maria - Clear land

Year 6:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Farm
Maria - Farm

Year 7:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Farm
Maria - Apprenticeship with potter

Year 8:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Build church

Year 9:
Nirur - Build church
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Build church

Year 10:
Nirur - Farm
Petra - Farm
Lucas - Apprentice with local priest

[Tsuchigumo550]

I seem to be doing fairly well...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Year 11-
Dimitri will leave to learn carpentry.
Nikita will farm the fields.

Year 12-
Nikita will farm.

Year 13-
Nikita will farm.
Volk will help Nikita farm (more like watch and learn)

Year 14-
Nikita will farm.
Volk will farm with Nikita.

Year 15-
Dimitri returns from apprenticeship.
Nikita and Volk farm.

Year 16-
Dimitri begins construction of a small inn.
Nikita and Volk farm.

Year 17-
Nikita and Volk farm.

Year 18-
Nikita and Volk farm.

Year 19-
Dimitri finishes the inn.
Nikita and Volk farm.

Year 20-
Dimitri will sell plants on the market and spread word of his inn.
Dimitri will take Volk along to the market as a learning experience.
Nikita farms.

I assume better carpentry will allow me to do something like that to turn a small yearly profit. If not, I'll change things up.
Hopefully Volk will live a bit longer too... I have plans for the first daughter of our clan.

Oh, another thing to mention to help everyone out:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

We should probably help each other out down the road. I might need other provisions to start an inn, where someone might need somewhere for their family to stay while a building is built or currency.
Also, we should focus on the following areas for profit:
Clothiers
Carpentry
Food
Medical

For the future, it would be good to prepare for
Smithing
Pottery
Mining
Housing

Thirdly, when our children reach a suitable age, how is marriage handled? Are inter-family marriages common/desired?

[Mullet Master]

The Flow of the Dynasties
At any time in this game, you will control the apparent matriach and patriarch of the family - the most important elders. They may or may not have children with them.
As said before, your children must either leave at 30, or be promoted to matriach/patriach and accept a NPC spouse. Your character will be automatically assigned one of your current social status, UNLESS you are willing to pay for one higher. At that time, you will ask directly what the cost will be.

Here is how exactly the mechanics will work.

AT ANY TIME PAST THE AGE OF 20:
You may marry your child off to a NPC family. You will receive a one time payment ( A 'dowry', regardless of sex). Typically this is 6 silver pieces for someone of a peasant social status. You have a good chance at gaining prestige from this action. You will no longer have control of this child.

You may give your child money and/or land to start out on their own. You will receive money every turn for the rest of the game, based on the intelligence of the child, their life experience, and how well you equipped them from your estate (land, money, buildings,etc). Typically this is 1 sp/turn for a peasant with a minimum amount of land and no money. Obviously a child with a trade will contribute much more! You likely will not gain prestige from this action.You will no longer have control of this child.

AT ANY TIME PAST THE AGE OF 5:
You may also send your child to the military/nunnery/circus/etc. This is essentially gambling at best. You will receive a single reward that is solely determined on a dice roll on my end. You can receive zero reward. This will also hurt the prestige of your family. You will no longer have control of this child.


Intermarrying, interfamily marriages, etc. Your family may not have incestuous marriages or marry members of another player character family.

Prestige:

This is the overall societal status of your family. If you have high prestige, you are more likely to be elected to office, get better business deals, and eventually become a noble. Prestige is more than just having money - it is about having friends and a solid reputation.

You will not receive any statistic on it - it will be apparent from the events of the world.

[Mullet Master]

That's what the "on average" means. I just want a rough estimate so I don't run myself into the ground for thinking the loom would make an annual gold piece when the average or estimate is closer to 2.5 silver pieces.

You are guaranteed to make back the cost of the loom within 5 years of weaving after accounting for raw materials, cost of selling, etc. After that, it is largely dependent on economy. This same statistic goes for almost any trade. Also, the character will gain skill, which can increase productivity, family prestige, and quality level, which has a decent effect on the amount of money made.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That's what the "on average" means. I just want a rough estimate so I don't run myself into the ground for thinking the loom would make an annual gold piece when the average or estimate is closer to 2.5 silver pieces.

You are guaranteed to make back the cost of the loom within 5 years of weaving after accounting for raw materials, cost of selling, etc. After that, it is largely dependent on economy. This same statistic goes for almost any trade.

Thanks. Here's my actions:

Spoiler: Turn 2 (click to show/hide)

Year 11:Magnum farms, Speciosam tries to heal the child and get someone to build a building, helping if needed. Wealth: 3g5s.
Years 12-16: Magnum farms, Speciosam weaves. When Filium is old enough, he helps his old man, mostly to learn the value of hard work. Wealth: 8g2.5s.
Year 17: Magnum clears farmland, Speciosam has a second child, Fillium farms. The five fields only produce half as much food, but that's still enough to feed the family and bring in 2.5 silver, so we're at 8g5s
Years 18-19: Fillium clears another acre of farmland, he's getting old and strong enough to do a man's work. Speciosam weaves. Magnum farms the now-six acres of farm, which brings in a surplus of 9 units of food per year, increasing wealth to 10g3s+W.
Year 20: Magnum farms and sends Fillium off to learn his first year's worth of metalsmithing lessons/apprenticeshipping. Speciosam weaves. Wealth: 10g2s+W, and Fillium's schooling is all paid off.

W means "The amount Speciosam has made so far through weaving since paying off the loom."

Oh, and so I can choose a name: Can you describe the new baby? Gender, at least?
And, as knowledge for next turn, would it be possible to hire someone and have them work and live on your property? Magnum's not getting any younger...
And while I'm asking questions, is this a dwarf-like town (e.g. lots of masonry and mining) or more realistic medieval? On that note, is there any magic or whatever?

[mesor]

He did it's a boy.
Thats what the ( M ) means.

[Nirur Torir]

GreatWyrmGold: I think it might be more efficient if we're not both potters.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Not that one,

Spoiler: Turn 2 (click to show/hide)

...
Year 17: Magnum clears farmland, Speciosam has a second child, Fillium farms. The five fields only produce half as much food, but that's still enough to feed the family and bring in 2.5 silver, so we're at 8g5s
...

That one.

GreatWyrmGold: I think it might be more efficient if we're not both potters.

Missed that, dangit!

[Mullet Master]

Oh, and so I can choose a name: Can you describe the new baby? Gender, at least?
And, as knowledge for next turn, would it be possible to hire someone and have them work and live on your property? Magnum's not getting any younger...
And while I'm asking questions, is this a dwarf-like town (e.g. lots of masonry and mining) or more realistic medieval? On that note, is there any magic or whatever?

Babies will be assigned a gender, you name.

You can hire someone once there's an official economy ( meaning, enough population to justify regular monetary transactions) and unemployment exists. I will notify you in the turn info when there are unemployed workers and their prevailing wage rates, and length of contract, etc.

This town is whatever you shape it into. The mining is more realistic than DF - meaning one person can't do much good mining at all, and will require tons of labor or equipment. The world does not have magic.