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[quinnr]

A while back there was a thread on a game known as Toadwater. It slowly fell into the abyss of the forum, like all good threads. I bring it up again though for a couple reasons.

Spoiler: Short info on the changes (click to show/hide)

1.) About a year ago, the world was created anew, with tons of empty land for everyone.
and also
2.) You get a member staff, for free at level 60 in this new world, now. (For those who don't know about the game, this previously required a one-time fee of $5 and unlocked a whole bunch of features..like walking at a normal pace.)

There've been a whole bunch of other changes to make the game more fun, as well, although I won't go into all of them, there are mini-quests anyone can do to get points towards some subscriber-only items, including Nano Dust to recharge your staff. These aren't worth a ton, but enough to get some occasional bonuses that are pretty neat.

Toadwater is a mostly non-violent 2D MMO with focuses on forestry and farming. Players are all dwarves in a giant wilderness, who race to sacrifice seeds to Armok shaped statues to get better seeds. At least, that's one of the ways you can go. There are a bunch of other activities you can take part in:

-Plant, grow, age and chop trees.
-Plant and harvest crops.
-Cook what you grow. Make salads and pies!
-Pick herbs and create wondrous potions.
-Lasso your opponents into certain doom.
-Construct your own base to your liking and fence your land off from evil raiders and would-be ravagers.
-Mine precious ore to create unique items.
-You can even force workers to do menial tasks for little monetary compensation.
-And much much more!

 

_{Sorry for the cramped screen, I have a tiny laptop!}

http://www.toadwater.com

Some newbie tips:
- You start off in an island in the clouds, where nobody can touch you or your property. Once you have taken advantage of this to build up your skills and get a stash of French Radishes (for health), seeds, and fences, you can jump off the edge of the island and visit the real world.
- There is a map of the world here: http://www.toadwater.com/map-tw2.png
- Click a highlighted object in your inventory to deselect it. (For example, during the tutorial when the Frog wants you to talk to him, and not attack him with an axe.)


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If anyone is interested in finding a place to fence off in the name of Bay12, post your interest in this thread. I came back recently from a bout of inactivity and my old base with a partner has become defunct and surrounded by someone else (who was kind enough to allow me to stay here for now.) Looking for somewhere else to go in a bit, though.

[Moogie]

So it's basically Haven & Hearth, with poop?

[lordcooper]

Oh my, that really is quite hideous.

[Paul]

Skimmed the wiki a bit. People really play this? Staff required to walk, with it taking damage and making you walk slower the more you use it. Have to pay money to fix the staff unless you're a gold member with a staff that doesn't take damage? Health loss on walking around, with eating to restore health. Eating generates "poo" so you have to visit outhouses that fill up and need to be rebuilt repeatedly. A "poo skill" that lets you "hold more poo" before you have to visit an outhouse? Premium foods that generate less poo for health? Seemingly all sorts of annoyances built in with paid for items to avoid them or make you faster/better. Other than that, game seems to revolve around various leveling treadmills - skills to level up, seed levels, tree levels?

People really play this?

Maybe I'm way off base and it's actually quite fun, but to me it looks like what would result if Zynga decided to make a combination of Dwarf Fortress and Farmville.

[Neonivek]

If I remember correctly the game originally, and probably still is, a satire of the kind of games like Farmville.

[Sirian]

I'm giving this a try. I finished the tutorial and almost ready jump down on the continent. It's ultra ugly but i'm more interested in the game mechanics. We'll see.

[Girlinhat]

I feel as if this should have an ASCII interface option and be improved greatly for it.

[quinnr]

As for the complaints on the staff, now, most of that has been changed a LOT for the better, if not completely erased.Everyone now gets a Member Staff (the one you had to buy) at level 60, which decays a great deal slower. It's also now possible to do small achievements for things you already do to get more ashes to repair your staff, without having to pay if you don't want to. It's improved the game a lot.

I feel as if this should have an ASCII interface option and be improved greatly for it.

I can actually probably agree with that. If you hit Ctrl+B, I think the combo is, you can open the directory with all the images and replace them with whatever. There are at least a couple small image mods, nothing large scale yet, though, IIRC.

[Shadowlord]

Whoops, clicked this thread thinking it said "Torchlight 2."

[Toadee]

Sorry for bumping up such an old topic, I thought it would be more appropriate than starting a new topic.

I invite everyone to come check out Toadwater 2.  In the past year, there have been a ton of updates expanding the entire game.  Just takes java and it's free to play.

[Sensei]

Sorry for bumping up such an old topic, I thought it would be more appropriate than starting a new topic.

I invite everyone to come check out Toadwater 2.  In the past year, there have been a ton of updates expanding the entire game.  Just takes java and it's free to play.

It didn't get a good response the last time. The one guy who said he was going to try it out didn't even come back to the thread. What's new that should convince it's not ungodly boring now?

[Toadee]

Sorry for bumping up such an old topic, I thought it would be more appropriate than starting a new topic.

I invite everyone to come check out Toadwater 2.  In the past year, there have been a ton of updates expanding the entire game.  Just takes java and it's free to play.

It didn't get a good response the last time. The one guy who said he was going to try it out didn't even come back to the thread. What's new that should convince it's not ungodly boring now?

In the past year there has been a major focus on community wide events that help to encourage working together.  The tutorial has been sped up a little to help get people through it quickly and learn the basics.

[Cthulhu]

The screenshot makes it look like something put together in a couple days.  It looks really, really bad. 

If I remember correctly the game originally, and probably still is, a satire of the kind of games like Farmville.

Yeah, I don't play that game.  The "we're gonna pretend we're satirizing a subject while we exploit it for money" game.  That's why I don't watch new commercials either.

[Twisti]

The screenshot makes it look like something put together in a couple days.  It looks really, really bad. 

If I remember correctly the game originally, and probably still is, a satire of the kind of games like Farmville.

Yeah, I don't play that game.  The "we're gonna pretend we're satirizing a subject while we exploit it for money" game.  That's why I don't watch new commercials either.

You two must be thinking of a different game. For one thing, Toadwater is over ten years old (11 or 12 by now), so it predates Farmville considerably. It's also an open world MMO, the only place where people have their own little world is just after starting in the tutorial cloud world, after that, they live in the same actual world (although there is sort of an instanced home base kind of thing). There is nothing being satirized and TW hardly pays for its own server. It's mostly being kept up and developed for the community.

As for the "premium annoyances", any form of premium allows you to use all the 'premium content' forever, and many people play completely without it or with only the initial unlock. But servers aren't free, so yeah, we do try to get people to pay a little bit - to be honest, I don't recall anyone every complaining that we ask too much or restrict too many things.

Full disclosure, as you can probably tell from my wording in some places, I'm the "other dev", mostly responsible for the client. Sorry we have no gfx artist on the team, but we figured people here would maybe be more open to games that didn't look quite as stellar as some ;)

[quinnr]

Hmmm, it's been quite a while, I should try this again some time. Thanks for bringing it back up on my radar!