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[Hapah]

And I want to see if a vote on ZU will stick, is all.

Now what was that all about.

Because when I had a somewhat similar role (the last BYOR), nothing would stick on me after the auto went off. Combined with the fact that Zombie supposedly has no action until he dies...it's very unusual. I think he's got a reusable night ability that he hasn't told us about, and I'd really like to know what it is. I guess we'll find out soon enough!

Vote still stands on Penngo009 until he explains the shorten and his D1 post.

[Jim Groovester]

Alright I'm back, and-

Think0028 has been modkilled!

Deathsword has been modkilled!

Urist Imiknorris has been modkilled!

Shakerag was found beaten to death!

Toaster has been killed!

I'm gone for half a week, half a week, and then all this happens.

Well... Never knew being gone would end up THIS bad for me. I guess trips are just too op. Lets shorten.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to the game, but I've paid enough attention to know that if you're not going to bother to try to give an explanation for why there was no kill given Hapah's claim, then suit yourself, I'll see you out of this game posthaste.

penngo009.

Toaster is still scum

Upon reflection considering Toaster's flip just now, this is fishy.

Was your case in Toaster up until his untimely demise the same one you outlined on reply #204?

zombie urist, I take it you're responsible for killing Toaster just now, correct?

And give me several good reasons why you shouldn't be speedlynched again based on the super fishy case and claims you've made as outlined by Tiruin.

[zombie urist]

I killed Toaster.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm going to die at the end of the day anyways.

With these recent flips in mind, my top suspects are Dariush and Penngo. I have midterms next week, so an explanation will have to wait until tomorrow.

[Dariush]

Toaster is still scum

Upon reflection considering Toaster's flip just now, this is fishy.

Fishy? Really? Since when is accusing someone of being scum is fishy?

Was your case in Toaster up until his untimely demise the same one you outlined on reply #204?

Yes, with an addition of his atrocious answer in #217. What made you think that I'd out of nowhere switch my case?

Now, let's see... resurrection and a claimed daykill. I don't really see any way for ZU to lie without having a bullshittastically overpowered role. Penngo.

[Tiruin]

I killed Toaster.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm going to die at the end of the day anyways.

With these recent flips in mind, my top suspects are Dariush and Penngo. I have midterms next week, so an explanation will have to wait until tomorrow.

Yeah. What if you don't die.

Why is it that you don't want to explain most of anything I asked and go to something else entirely?

> Why did you post "My kill doesn't count as a lynch" when...it's a kill.

> Why in the world aren't you explaining:

If I'm not dead by day start tomorrow fel free to lynch me.

> Why only now did you initiate your kill @ Toaster.

Now I can understand the stress of midterms [curse you midterms...] but at least try to answer the questions given to you.


Add all the above to your explanation. PLEASE.

Hapah: What's on your mind on what ZU may be hiding back?

I am slow loris (town).

My abilities are
1. Protected Species (auto) - When I die, I revive for 1 cycle. I am completely kill immune during this time. I can use bracial gland during this time.
2. Brachial Gland (1 shot) - I kill a guy. If the targeted guy doesn't die for any reason, protected species ends and I don't die.

zombie urist: Seems like you're going to live, judging by what you said. You won't die and it didn't say anything about a time limit death.

[Bookthras]

WTF...

Zombie:

"WUBA!" he yells, pointing at the deceased body of Toaster. "Clean up."

I said it clearly and loudly on the last BYOR: if I tell you Toaster is scum, then he's surely scum and should be lynched. Did I tell you Toaster was scum? No. Then why the fuck did you do that?

Yeah, I saw you saying he was your top suspect, but your reasons were worse than flimsy, and you seemed to know that. I had hoped you'd wait to use your kill until you had a stronger read, but noooo, you had to shoot from the hip.

That being said, I don't really think Zombie is scum; he may be, but given Deathsword's flip I find it unlikely. I rather think his previous "vengeful" claim approximates the truth; he may be 3rd party, or misguided town with a ...premature execution problem, and I think it is likely he will indeed die at the end of D2 regardless. Which means we should lynch someone else. If he doesn't flip by day end, then efforts should be made to neutralise him.

But really dude, what the fuck...


Jim:

Alright I'm back, and- [shit happens] - penngo009.

Yeah, you absentee landlord you. Just stroll in half a week later with no reads and jump on the wagon du jour, why don't you. That's mighty scummy of you. Do you have anything else to add?

if you're not going to bother to try to give an explanation for why there was no kill given Hapah's claim, then suit yourself, I'll see you out of this game posthaste.

Please tell me you have more than this as reason to vote penngo. Or should he be lynched just for not having an explanation for a lack of kill?


Penngo:
Why the fuck did you join a game again if you had no intention of playing it? Putting you out of our misery is a worthy cause in principle, and I know for a fact (from BSER) that if you're town then even if you're lurky you'll try to do what you can to stay alive, so that shortening really seems like a noobscum that just gave up. If you are not scum, then please review D1 and respond the questions pending for you, explain your shorten, name your suspects with reasons, and cast a vote. If you fail to do this, then I'll assume you're scum and you should be lynched.

Others: however, don't be quick on the speedlynch of the noobscum. This game is on hammers, and we have a couple of days, let's not end the day prematurely.


Dariush:

Toaster is still scum

Was your case in Toaster up until his untimely demise the same one you outlined on reply #204?

Yes, with an addition of his atrocious answer in #217. What made you think that I'd out of nowhere switch my case?

Yeah, I'm sure. #217 is sooo scummy! Just as you were sure of the Zombie wagon, for particularly stupid, spurious reasons too. I think you are more likely to be scum than either Penngo or Zombie.

Penngo.

Oh, how predictable of you, jumping onto a free lynch just like before, giving no reasons.


Wuba:

However, the claws can't seem to close around the body. After wasting about $3 more in quarters, the robot simply stops and pushes it into the corner.

That's a pretty funny visual. You can almost hear the robot sighing and shrugging.

Toaster was the Xylbot Role List (town)[...] Ace in the Hole... Jack of All Trades... Block, Inspect, Karma, Kill, Track... King of Choices: Delay, Protect, Randomize, Super, Watch... Queen Sacrifice... Joker’s Wild.

If we hit the bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate!

[zombie urist]

I used it because I didn't want to forget again since my posting will be limited.

At Tiruin

1. Hapah? asked if my kill would cause Day end.
2. If I'm not dead, I will have lied and then do whatever.
3. I forgot earlier and don't want to forget again.
BTW how do you keep the quote in line?

[Tiruin]

I used it because I didn't want to forget again since my posting will be limited.

At Tiruin

1. Hapah? asked if my kill would cause Day end.
2. If I'm not dead, I will have lied and then do whatever.
3. I forgot earlier and don't want to forget again.

You misunderstand...

Why the doubt in number 2 and why does it seem that you just await the day end for clarification when you can do it now?

Spoiler: This is how I understood it (click to show/hide)

I am slow loris (town).

My abilities are
1. Protected Species (auto) - When I die, I revive for 1 cycle. I am completely kill immune during this time. I can use bracial gland during this time.
2. Brachial Gland (1 shot) - I kill a guy. If the targeted guy doesn't die for any reason, protected species ends and I don't die.

This is your claim, yes?

Now that you got lynched D1, you didn't use the kill N1, so...you didn't use the 1 shot at all. Even right now, it's used up. Both ways, the bolded portion is now irrelevant.

Nevertheless, I fail to see how any of anything you've posted ever states that you DIE at the end! Unless I'm being stupid and fail to understand the orange. And if the orange does mean that you die N2 [failing to live D3 as you said in that quote there], why haven't you mentioned this in the first place?

Restating: Are you truly sure you will die at day end? How are you sure?

Spoiler: Also... (click to show/hide)

BTW how do you keep the quote in line?

Tables, good sir. Formatting. 

Code: [Select]

[table]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[/tr]
[/table]

Now, the <td> means the column. The <tr> means the row.

So if I'd make a sentence quote for 'Column 1' and 'Column 2' it would appear as such.

> Hey you, I want

Column 1

and

Column 2

Code: [Select]

[table]
[tr]
[td]> Hey you, I want[/td][td][quote]Column 1[/quote][/td][td] and [/td][td][quote]Column 2[/quote][/td]
[/tr]
[/table]The <tr> is handled by other instances, but you get the point. Used this formatting to fix my signature link.

Bookthras

WTF...

Zombie:

"WUBA!" he yells, pointing at the deceased body of Toaster. "Clean up."

I said it clearly and loudly on the last BYOR: if I tell you Toaster is scum, then he's surely scum and should be lynched. Did I tell you Toaster was scum? No. Then why the fuck did you do that?

Yeah, I saw you saying he was your top suspect, but your reasons were worse than flimsy, and you seemed to know that. I had hoped you'd wait to use your kill until you had a stronger read, but noooo, you had to shoot from the hip.

That being said, I don't really think Zombie is scum; he may be, but given Deathsword's flip I find it unlikely. I rather think his previous "vengeful" claim approximates the truth; he may be 3rd party, or misguided town with a ...premature execution problem, and I think it is likely he will indeed die at the end of D2 regardless. Which means we should lynch someone else. If he doesn't flip by day end, then efforts should be made to neutralise him.

But really dude, what the fuck...

I can't parse how what you say relates to what ZU did...Also, what's that about Deathsword's flip and it's relation to ZU? Also, instead of giving assumptions, why not ask the person intended?

[Hapah]

Tir: ZU's ability states that he will revive for one cycle. Since he got lynched D1, he'll die at the end of D2, if his ability is to be believed. I see no reason to doubt that part: The only reason I could see to fakeclaim the timed portion of the revive is if you had another great 1-shot ability to use N2. I don't think it's the case, but the claim still smells a little funny to me.

[Hapah]

Book:

Others: however, don't be quick on the speedlynch of the noobscum. This game is on hammers, and we have a couple of days, let's not end the day prematurely.

It's still 2 more to hammer, I believe. There could be vote shenanigans, though, so I will Unvote for now. He needs to get in here and defend himself quick, though.

Please tell me you have more than this as reason to vote penngo. Or should he be lynched just for not having an explanation for a lack of kill?

One could argue that Jim and Dar both don't need a better reason, yes? If Penngo won't even answer questions, he's a liability and good lynch candidate at best and scum at worst. Who would you say is even comparable at the moment?

IO, Tolyk: Care to join us?

And give me several good reasons why you shouldn't be speedlynched again based on the super fishy case and claims you've made as outlined by Tiruin.

I'm torn on ZU, personally. On one hand, I think he's holding something back from his claim: Only having a 1-shot and an auto seems very unusual (and he claimed a 1-shot and an auto in the last BYOR and was scum, for what that's worth). On the other hand, I can't wrap my head around what he'd gain by faking a temporary revive over truthfully claiming a real revive. Especially given the fact that there was no kill and the first D2 post was me calling out Penngo on it, it wouldn't have been too hard to live through the day anyway, I'd think, and if he's still alive D3 he's a walking corpse (really easy lynch). It'd either have to be a badass night ability or maybe a Jester play, but I find both possibilities remote.

Basically, he has little to gain and significant amounts to lose if he's lying about the revive. I think that part is true enough, but I also think he's holding something back. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong though, lol.

[IronyOwl]

IO, Tolyk: Care to join us?

Trying to, having trouble getting back in. I will say that I don't fully trust ZU's claim, but logically I don't see what he'd be hiding. If he doesn't die obviously we'll kill him, so what's the point of lying? Just get himself another day? It'd have to be something where being lynched is different from dying off on his own somehow.

Or, more or less what you just said.



Dariush:
You seem to have missed this. Whatever happened to your case on TolyK anyway? Still think he's scum?

What do you make of Toaster flipping town?


zombie urist:

I killed Toaster.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm going to die at the end of the day anyways.

With these recent flips in mind, my top suspects are Dariush and Penngo. I have midterms next week, so an explanation will have to wait until tomorrow.

What did you learn from Toaster's flip? Do you think you made any mistakes in killing him?

Also, when you first thought you were going to be lynched:

NOOOO
Please lynch Toaster tomorrow.

Brief case:

Further, I notice you didn't respond to any of the answers to your starter RVS post.

This is a scumtell which hasn't really been publicized and it doesn't happen very often. Other notable instances of this scumtell happening are by Think0028 in Super V and me in BM26(?).
Its a scumtell because it shows that Toaster doesn't really have anything to say and is padding his posts.

Dariush:
It was a reaction test.  You didn't do well.

...

Irony:  Please restate your whole cases against ZombieU and Shakerag.

I've already mentioned the first part is total BS. Also Toaster pulled the same thing in Cybrid IV after becoming cybridized.
The second part is also an example of post padding.

Why did you panic and tell everyone to lynch Toaster tomorrow, knowing full well that you'd be both around and in possession of a kill that day?


Tiruin: Your posts tend to be about four times as long and convoluted as they need to be and thus difficult to follow. Not really going anywhere with this, just felt it needed to be officially pointed out, especially if you're going to be aiming them at people with difficulty mastering simple posts.

[Jim Groovester]

Was your case in Toaster up until his untimely demise the same one you outlined on reply #204?

Yes, with an addition of his atrocious answer in #217. What made you think that I'd out of nowhere switch my case?

Oh, good. This will be easy then, since your reasons were atrocious.

Toaster asked you an obviously bullshit question. You accused him of inventing a case against you. He responded that it was indeed the bullshit that it was, and you called it an atrocious response.

So you've got a poor reaction to a bullshit question against you, and somehow that made Toaster scum.

Additionally, your reason for voting penngo009 reeks of scumminess.

Given no deaths, and the fact that I delayed pengo009, I think I'll start with my vote right there.

I see no reason not to believe this claim. Penngo.

You can believe the claim all you want. That doesn't make it the sole explanation for why there was no kill last night, but you automatically accept it as fact.

It's almost like you know why the night went down the way it did, but you're taking quick advantage of Hapah's claim and Penngo009's apathy.

[Jim Groovester]

Dammit, I somehow managed to not post the responses I had to Bookthras. Which is a shame, since I'm rather proud of the following quip, and now it's fucking ruined.

Typed from memory:

Jim:

Alright I'm back, and- [shit happens] - penngo009.

Yeah, you absentee landlord you. Just stroll in half a week later with no reads and jump on the wagon du jour, why don't you. That's mighty scummy of you. Do you have anything else to add?

You know, I think you're right. I must be the landlord 'cuz I walked in like I owned the place.

I had shit to do. I have suspects and reads. You're silly to say that I don't. Maybe if you're patient I'll get to them.

Please tell me you have more than this as reason to vote penngo. Or should he be lynched just for not having an explanation for a lack of kill?

How about, he hasn't done anything all game, hasn't made a single confrontational move towards anyone, has no suspicions except token ones given because he was pressured, and refuses to come in the thread and try to give an explanation for why there was no kill given Hapah's claim when he's the one accused of it?

The vote was phrased to encourage him to hurry up and get in the fucking thread, but it would be silly to assume that that was the only reason I had.

[TolyK]

IO, Tolyk: Care to join us?

Yarr. Apparently my last post didn't go through.

Zombie is either lying to save himself for one more day (might be an activated ability or something, or he wants to do one more action) or he's telling the truth and is basically useless. I think it's more or less safe to leave him all alone (unless he lives to/through N2, in which case we obviously want to kill him).
Penngo has been even worse than me in terms of the game, but since he's not even here he's not something I'm really taking into account.
Although Toaster was the first to vote penngo today...

Wait. Zombie, did any of your abilities change last night by any chance?

[Bookthras]

Tiruin:

I can't parse how what you say relates to what ZU did...Also, what's that about Deathsword's flip and it's relation to ZU? Also, instead of giving assumptions, why not ask the person intended?

Then your parser is broken, that was perfectly cromulent English. I did ask the person intended (Zombie; the question was "what the fuck"). The bit about Deathsword is speculation, as I said, but his flip includes a kill immunity action, so it seems redundant and a bit overpowered to have another scum with another kill immunity action. Not impossible, surely, but coupled with my not having a strong scum read on him and his statement that he's to die at day end means he's not an optimal lynch for D2.


Hapah:

Please tell me you have more than this as reason to vote penngo. Or should he be lynched just for not having an explanation for a lack of kill?

One could argue that Jim and Dar both don't need a better reason, yes?

No. I mean, one could argue it, but a vote needs justification, which "has no explanation for a lack of kill" isn't, which is why I asked for more.

If Penngo won't even answer questions, he's a liability and good lynch candidate at best and scum at worst. Who would you say is even comparable at the moment?

Agreed, he's a liability, a good lynch candidate, and probably scum, but neither Dariush nor Jim had actually cited that as a reason at the time. Jim has now provided it and other good reasons, Dariush, not so much.

I don't know about "comparable", but Dariush is scummier in my mind. While a lynch of penngo would be perfectly reasonable, he's noob and lurky so my read on him is based on his apathy, incompetence, and lack of material; Dariush, on the other hand, is pretty damn scummy based on his actual actions, votes and arguments, so I think that's a more solid vote.

Penngo will probably be modkilled by end of day anyway. He has done absolutely nothing since his shorten, and wuba already had put him on notice on the day start post.