Do you feel it's more painful for town when the cop or the doctor is roleblocked? Why?
Obviously, it is. But it's just a minor setback if town manages to track down scum.
@Xny I strongly believe the cop. Atleast in BM's. That is because a cop is practically fool-proof to use, you can inspect someone. Whether he is scum or not doesn't matter, cause both outcomes provide you valuable information.
While the doc can accidentally shield scum, even if he didn't mean to. That is cause Doc is more reliant on what the players say and how they react. Newbie mafia players (That includes me as well) make more often the mistake of misreading the information given thus wasting his/her action for the night and a unlucky townie.
@Shakerag oh jeez, that's a hard one. Uff it's random but i would most probably choose Jim. Cause in the past BM's that I've red, i have noticed that he likes to bully newbies. With that gone he would be less of a threat to town or scum depending on his alignment.
You want him to be less of a threat to scum?
you want him to be less of a threat to scum?
I think you haven't red my entire answer, Cause your question doesn't seem to reflect this.
you want him to be less of a threat to scum?
I think you haven't red my entire answer, Cause your question doesn't seem to reflect this.
@Shakerag oh jeez, that's a hard one. Uff it's random but i would most probably choose Jim. Cause in the past BM's that I've red, i have noticed that he likes to bully newbies. With that gone he would be less of a threat to town or scum depending on his alignment.
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bolded the important part.
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Xny You make very poor attempts at creating good questions, are you even trying to scum hunt?
I don't see how what you bolded changes my point. From what I see, it is as if you are saying "I would get rid of Jim because he puts pressure on town and scum." Is this wrong?
You want to show some examples of bad questions that get me no useful information against scum?
I don't see how what you bolded changes my point. From what I see, it is as if you are saying "I would get rid of Jim because he puts pressure on town and scum." Is this wrong?
PArtly, the point is that he has generally a stronger presence than the majority of the players and frankly i have no idea whether he is town or scum. Perhaps this mentality has risen from reading other mafia's, but i could as well call out other players. The problem is that i have no knowledge of anything they have done in the past, while i did read a lot about Jim's actions. Thus my random vote is straying towards Jim cause i have some vague knowledge of him as opposed to random players.
It's not that i hold a grudge against Jim cause i don't, i have no reason to have it cause this is the first time i literally play with him. But isn't it logical (If i indeed did have this role, which i do not have cause it does not exist in the Mafia), that you'd go for the player which you know more about as opposed to a random player which actions may be unknown?
You want to show some examples of bad questions that get me no useful information against scum?
Sure why not. But wait... Then we stumble upon something. You yourself didn't ask many questions, You prefer to take the easy way by jumping on questions of others. I'm not saying it's bad, but you haven't been scum hunting yourself. That's the easy way don't you think? But lets continue..
Maybe I am misunderstanding you here.. but no, not really. Thinking it through, why would someone decide to out their partner, ever? It's simply Wifom and over with. Do you believe everything you hear without even thinking about it? Do you happen to be thinking by yourself right now?
@Mr.Zero: ERRR WRONG, 1112. Anyway, that has happened twice now. I'll try harder with a stronger case at the start. And trust me, it will happen in this mafia. And I'll be innocent again.
What makes you think it will happen again? Are you not confident in yourself?
Also..
@Shoes: The other dude. Mafia do not like to attract attention to themselves.
Is this a solid rule? Do you think they ever should attract attention?
Do you feel it's more painful for town when the cop or the doctor is roleblocked? Why?
Obviously, it is. But it's just a minor setback if town manages to track down scum.
Shakerag: Is a scummy-acting town better off dead?
@Jim Groovester [May I call you Jim?]
The reason they would believe it is that hot-heads prevail. People are lazy creatures. Even if they manage to avoid the trap it would always be in the backround of their mind whispering its siren's song.
Do you feel you also act this way? Does everyone?
There's at least six of my own questions right there. Unless I'm also counting wrong, that's just about how many you have yourself. Not only that, but...
Shoesandhats Please define the suspicious player more. Is it the aggressive one? The passive one? The lurker? Maybe the good player?
You had 'no part' in that question, but then you 'jump in' on it yourself, as I've been doing. Are you in the wrong here?
Also, I find this funny:
what do you hope to gain from these three questions?
Odd question, questioning why he is asking questions? I believe it's to gain knowledge, the thing that spins this game.
I'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.
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(Not sure why it unquoted itself there. Is there some limit to the amount of quotes in a post?)
@XnYI'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.
What i mean is that, you are questioning the very foundation of this game: namely asking questions.
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask why someone is questioning others?
(Well, looks like I was wrong about the quote limit thing.)
What i find amusing is that you keep assaulting me with the non-existant hypothetical question with a role that does not exist in here, instead of creating plausible scenario's which in fact will gain you more valuable information.
But now i ask you Who would you chose Nerjin? if you had this role? and why?. Cause you seem very confident that you know very well who you would vote for and why.A kind of confident like you know who scum is, and who isn't.
Do you not see how these two statements contradict each other?
@NerjinRead the forum friend. xny has been posting frequently and asking questions applying pressure and all that other good stuff. This isn't a scum-tell. It's not a bad thing to pressure for more information. You also ask why he's asking questions. You are doing the same thing. Maybe you should examine the irony here.
This last part just plain confused me though I'll requote it here [it's from the same post]
Now that i've just reread it, yes it's rather ironic now that i realize it.
It seems that everything you've been saying recently is either completely wrong or just doesn't make sense. Are you thinking about what you're doing here? It seems like you want to be a 'hero' but are simply pulling things out of thin air that simply disappear too soon, and you're certainly running out of air. (I am so so sorry for this terrible comparison, but I feel it gets a point across.)
@NerjinWhat... What do you mean by searching himself for scum? Please explain what you mean by that.
yes i agree, i formulated that sentence in a very strange way and that i may have used the wrong words to express what i was thinking. What i've meant is that i feel that he is taking the lazy way, which generally isn't a towny attribute.
I don't feel the need to act in a way that town 'generally' acts. As town, I'm fairly confident almost anything I do that I feel is for the best will also be 'generally town'. Do you feel the opposite way with a need to act town?
@XnYI'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.
What i mean is that, you are questioning the very foundation of this game: namely asking questions.
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask why someone is questioning others?
First off, the first part of your post was about Jim, and really I still don't understand much of what you're trying to say there. Also, I was not asking him why he is asking questions, but what he hopes to gain from the questions he asked. To figure out, like you are now, if he is pulling whatever he can to make himself look better.
@Xny
It seems that after rereading it once again, i've misunderstood your question of "Why you are questioning him, about why he's questioning others". While all you asked what he actually hoped to really gain. This led us to this odd discussion where there will be no winner. While there are lurkers amongst us.
@Xny
It seems that after rereading it once again, i've misunderstood your question of "Why you are questioning him, about why he's questioning others". While all you asked what he actually hoped to really gain. This led us to this odd discussion where there will be no winner. While there are lurkers amongst us.
You want to know what's actually suspicious? This. "Stop talking about me, get to the lurkers!" Obviously these people are lurking, there's nothing I can do about that other than asking for the prod. So, are you worried about answering more questions? You didn't answer my previous one, do you feel the need to act town?
That is a fine theory indeed, but it you should look around before you hop on the bandwagon. If we compare me,Xny and Nabic to the rest of the players, somethind stands out. Namely how active we are, we are trying to find the scum before the day ends. The rest however is staying low, waiting till the townies fight it out and hang themselves. Doesn't that strike suspicion?
And then there's this as well. It's nearly the same thing, "I can't be scum, there are lurkers!" Are you going to redirect everything against you towards the lurking players? It also makes it sound like you being more active than other players automatically makes you town. I do suggest you take some more time to read through things before jumping to your crazy conclusions and questions, to prevent another 'huge misunderstanding'.
But then we have you, you stayed semi-lurking till now. You came here, cast a vote and created a good theory hoping it would support that vote. It is a good theory if it weren't for these lurkers.
But then we have you, staying active, with wild theories but not voting for anything you say you find suspicious.
I've called attention to the lurkers, like someone else already pointed out. Doesn't it strike you suspicious that some of us are constantly fighting while some are laying low?
It strikes me so much more suspiciously that you continue to focus more on the lurkers than yourself.
Shoesandhats You say you have your opinions and evidence, what's holding you back to display/share it ? Even if it's something that may be used against me.
Pretty blatant OMGUS.
Xny: Why didn't you question other people besides me during the 3-4 page discussion?
Stop using page numbers to describe things, we likely don't have the same setup. Either way, I prefer to keep my main focus on one at a time, just sidetracking a bit when I think I should.
Didn't they emit enough suspicion? Also what do you think of Nerjin suddenly jumping into the fray?
Not as much suspicion as you. I don't care what Nerjin does until he says something I don't like.
Nerjin: Same questions as XNY(expects last one) but.... why did you help XNY? Weren't you confident enough that your buddy would succeed?
Really throwing these FoS around aren't we? You continue to say we should care about the lurkers, but your two FoS are two of the most active players? You don't seem to like following your own rules.
And once again, you've not answered my question. Do you feel the need to act town? Even if you just tell me to back off on this question, I want an answer.
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