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[Mr.Zero]

@Nerjin

So instead of searching for hints of scumminess in others you will stick with Jim simply because he has presence and you know him? To answer your question: Yes it is more logical. BUT you don't know Jim in this game. You know Jim from the other games. Learn more of others in this game my friend, before you vote Jim from other games. They have little bearing right now.

But there is nearly not enough to go on other people, especially on day one. I've red about kingfisher but he nearly always somehow corners himself on the chopping block. The rest of you... is the first time i'm seeing you. By all means im far from a good mafia player so i cannot read anything of all the players, that's why i pick the player that i know SOMETHING about. Even if it's nearly nothing it's something.

P.S: Btw, the bolded part suddenly strikes me, why do you exactly mean by voting? Did i somewhere mention that i would give my lynch vote against Jim?

What i find amusing is that you keep assaulting me with the non-existant hypothetical question with a role that does not exist in here, instead of creating plausible scenario's which in fact will gain you more valuable information.

But now i ask you Who would you chose Nerjin? if you had this role? and why?. Cause you seem very confident that you know very well who you would vote for and why.A kind of confident like you know who scum is, and who isn't.

@Nerjin

Read the forum friend. xny has been posting frequently and asking questions applying pressure and all that other good stuff. This isn't a scum-tell. It's not a bad thing to pressure for more information. You also ask why he's asking questions. You are doing the same thing. Maybe you should examine the irony here.

This last part just plain confused me though I'll requote it here [it's from the same post]

Now that i've just reread it, yes it's rather ironic now that i realize it.

@Nerjin

What... What do you mean by searching himself for scum? Please explain what you mean by that.

yes i agree, i formulated that sentence in a very strange way and that i may have used the wrong words to express what i was thinking. What i've meant is that i feel that he is taking the lazy way, which generally isn't a towny attribute.

@XnY

I'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.

What i mean is that, you are questioning the very foundation of this game: namely asking questions. 
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask why someone is questioning others?

[Mr.Zero]

And this will result in a no-lynch, which is generally bad from what i've red.

[Nerjin]

@Nerjin

So instead of searching for hints of scumminess in others you will stick with Jim simply because he has presence and you know him? To answer your question: Yes it is more logical. BUT you don't know Jim in this game. You know Jim from the other games. Learn more of others in this game my friend, before you vote Jim from other games. They have little bearing right now.

But there is nearly not enough to go on other people, especially on day one. I've red about kingfisher but he nearly always somehow corners himself on the chopping block. The rest of you... is the first time i'm seeing you. By all means im far from a good mafia player so i cannot read anything of all the players, that's why i pick the player that i know SOMETHING about. Even if it's nearly nothing it's something.

P.S: Btw, the bolded part suddenly strikes me, why do you exactly mean by voting? Did i somewhere mention that i would give my lynch vote against Jim?

I mis-spoke I fear. I'm just saying that your suspicion against Jim for simply being Jim is a little odd. But you bring up an interesting point when you mention that Kingfisher always puts himself on the block. Is this a good or bad thing for you? How do you feel about that particular aspect of his play-style since you've read up on mafia before. As for the voting thing I admit I misinterpreted what you have done.

What i find amusing is that you keep assaulting me with the non-existant hypothetical question with a role that does not exist in here, instead of creating plausible scenario's which in fact will gain you more valuable information.

But now i ask you Who would you chose Nerjin? if you had this role? and why?. Cause you seem very confident that you know very well who you would vote for and why.A kind of confident like you know who scum is, and who isn't.

What do you mean by role. What role? By the way most every issue during day one will be hypothetical. I don't see you mentioning that to anyone else. I'm not 100% who is scum. I'm just trying to get information.

@Nerjin

What... What do you mean by searching himself for scum? Please explain what you mean by that.

yes i agree, i formulated that sentence in a very strange way and that i may have used the wrong words to express what i was thinking. What i've meant is that i feel that he is taking the lazy way, which generally isn't a towny attribute.

Applying pressure to people to get more information isn't lazy. If being lazy was a scum-tell we would all be extremely lazy since we'd have to ask questions which have been asked before in other mafias. Your lazyness claim is odd.

@XnY

I'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.

What i mean is that, you are questioning the very foundation of this game: namely asking questions. 
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask why someone is questioning others?

Not directed at me but I'd like to point out that, yet again, you are doing this very thing.

[zombie urist]

Day ends in ~12 hours.

2 out of 4 extensions requests needed to extend.

[Shakerag]

PFP: extend

[xny]

Extend May be slightly busy with my own birthday tomorrow, maybe not.

What i find amusing is that you keep assaulting me with the non-existant hypothetical question with a role that does not exist in here, instead of creating plausible scenario's which in fact will gain you more valuable information.

But now i ask you Who would you chose Nerjin? if you had this role? and why?. Cause you seem very confident that you know very well who you would vote for and why.A kind of confident like you know who scum is, and who isn't.

Do you not see how these two statements contradict each other?

@Nerjin

Read the forum friend. xny has been posting frequently and asking questions applying pressure and all that other good stuff. This isn't a scum-tell. It's not a bad thing to pressure for more information. You also ask why he's asking questions. You are doing the same thing. Maybe you should examine the irony here.

This last part just plain confused me though I'll requote it here [it's from the same post]

Now that i've just reread it, yes it's rather ironic now that i realize it.

It seems that everything you've been saying recently is either completely wrong or just doesn't make sense. Are you thinking about what you're doing here? It seems like you want to be a 'hero' but are simply pulling things out of thin air that simply disappear too soon, and you're certainly running out of air. (I am so so sorry for this terrible comparison, but I feel it gets a point across.)

@Nerjin

What... What do you mean by searching himself for scum? Please explain what you mean by that.

yes i agree, i formulated that sentence in a very strange way and that i may have used the wrong words to express what i was thinking. What i've meant is that i feel that he is taking the lazy way, which generally isn't a towny attribute.

I don't feel the need to act in a way that town 'generally' acts. As town, I'm fairly confident almost anything I do that I feel is for the best will also be 'generally town'. Do you feel the opposite way with a need to act town?

@XnY

I'll respond to the first part of your post when I decipher what it means.

What i mean is that, you are questioning the very foundation of this game: namely asking questions. 
Why would you ask that? Why would you ask why someone is questioning others?

First off, the first part of your post was about Jim, and really I still don't understand much of what you're trying to say there. Also, I was not asking him why he is asking questions, but what he hopes to gain from the questions he asked. To figure out, like you are now, if he is pulling whatever he can to make himself look better.

[Shakerag]

Unvote.

[...] i have noticed that he likes to bully newbies.

[Only the ones that bring it on themselves, IMO.  My first BM was ... a learning experience.]

If so, I may start the bandwagon myself.

[Just a personal peeve here.  Bandwagoning is when, IMO, you're voting someone just because everyone else is without any good reasoning of your own.  Also when you're trying to encourage other players to vote for your target with sketchy or poor reasoning.  Stating someone is "starting a bandwagon" makes me want to wallop the speaker with a rolled-up newspaper.]

@Everyone who isn't already: When respond to a question, could you possibly quote the question? Makes this much easier to read.

[Also, if you're quoting, make note of who you're quoting, please.  Including post numbers if you're not quoting is encouraged.  By encouraged, I mean do it or I'll be on your ass until you do it.]

This isn't a scum-tell. It's not a bad thing to pressure for more information.

[This.]

Ok.

[<3]


[Mr.Zero: All conjugations of the verb "to read" still have an 'a' in them.]

[xny]

Unvote.

Why?

If so, I may start the bandwagon myself.

[Just a personal peeve here.  Bandwagoning is when, IMO, you're voting someone just because everyone else is without any good reasoning of your own.  Also when you're trying to encourage other players to vote for your target with sketchy or poor reasoning.  Stating someone is "starting a bandwagon" makes me want to wallop the speaker with a rolled-up newspaper.]

Oh, it seems that's correct. I should probably reread my vocabulary, EM seems to use a few terms differently.

[xny]

It looks like Nabic, Captain Ford and Kingfisher1112 haven't posted in over 24 hours. Don't you have anything at all to add?

[Captain Ford]

I just spent the last two hours rereading this thread until my eyes bled.

It looks like Nabic, Captain Ford and Kingfisher1112 haven't posted in over 24 hours. Don't you have anything at all to add?

Sorry, I've been kept unusually busy the past few days.

I also noticed, Kingfisher1112, that you haven't answered 4 of the 5 questions posed to you so far. In your opinion, is this the sort of thing someone should be lynched for?

[Nabic]

Extend

@nabic
You just said that you would role claim if you knew that there was a doctor, but what would you do to back-up that claim? What if scum didn't NK you, just to raise suspicion against you to get you on the chopping block?

Cause we aren't exactly waiting to get spoon fed fake information.

Town would have no reason to suspect because only one cop is claiming.
If mafia fake-claim cop, the real cop should claim so we can out one mafia. Even if the real cop is lynched first, the flip will reveal the fake-claimer is scum.

It looks like Nabic, Captain Ford and Kingfisher1112 haven't posted in over 24 hours. Don't you have anything at all to add?

Was sidetracked by upcoming midterms, but I do have some questions to ask


Captain Ford, you've been voting Nerjin since your first post this game. Why?

ShoesandHats, Kingfisher1112 and Mr.Zero, you've not voted for anyone this entire game. Does nobody strike you as suspicious enough to give a Random vote?

Mr.Zero, you pointed your FOS at ShoesandHats, but didn't vote for him. Do you feel a FOS is stronger than a vote?

[ShoesandHats]

ShoesandHats, Kingfisher1112 and Mr.Zero, you've not voted for anyone this entire game. Does nobody strike you as suspicious enough to give a Random vote?

Actually, I was just reading over some of the responses and questions trying to formulate a better opinion. Expect a vote soon, even if it happens to be a double post.

[zombie urist]

Day extended to 9:00 PM PST Friday Oct 19, 2012.

[ShoesandHats]

Okay, I've come to a little bit of a conclusion. My scumhunting skills are almost certainly below everyone else's here, seeing as last time I played I was scum, but I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, Mr. Zero and xny are scumbuddies. I emphasize the maybe. They seem a bit too eager to go at each others throats, and I get the impression that they're trying to cast suspicion off of themselves by constantly bombarding each other with questions and responses. I know I should probably grow a spine and be a bit more binary in my answers, but its a bit harder when you're used to actually knowing from the start who was town and who was your scumbuddy.

So, that's a vote for Mr. Zero.

[kingfisher1112]

Sadly, I have no means with which to post for the next two weeks.
Request replacement.