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[GreatWyrmGold]

Build the rules up from the ground

not trying to hate here but,  thats a tall order.

Yet, it's what we're doing. Right now.
Ish.

No need to rebuild them all anyway some of them are fine as they are.
But the committees are more or less a way to adjust rules for systems to make them more fitting anyway.

I have a rough system for smithing weapons and armor with metals as well as a list of all the kinds of weapons and armor.

I'll post them shortly I just need to make some minor adjustments.

Cool. I'd like to see...oh, wait. I'd like them to see your latest version.

[mesor]

Armor.
Cloth ( If you are wearing this you are clearly suicidal. )
Bone armor ( If you are wearing this your either insane, suicidal or both, prepare to die. )
Leather ( If you are wearing this pray to your god that you die fast and get ready to kiss your ass goodbye. )
Copper ( Basic metal armor I suggest this be the starting level of equipment for players who have no access to better materials from their own land, all men can be equipped in this. )
Aluminum ( Equal stats to copper but chain mail does not require a -1 to swimming and plate is only a -1 instead of -2 due to light weight.)
Iron ( The most comon metal in existance, double the stats of copper )
Bronze ( Rare but 50% stronger then iron )
Steel ( 100% stronger then iron )

Weapons.
Bone ( If your attacking somebody with this then your probably about to die. )
Wooden ( If your attacking somebody who has any metal armor your about to die. )
Aluminum ( Basic metal equipment it's light but it's soft and will not hold an edge or point for long when striking metal. )
Copper ( Basic metal equipment I suggest this be the basic equipment for any player without access to more advanced materials. )
Iron ( Most abundant metal in the world but limited sources to acquire it from )
Bronze ( Rare but 50% stronger then iron. )
Steel ( 100% stronger then Iron and in limited supply )

All smithing requires 1 unit of fuel.

1 Unit of metal for chain mail armor.
2 units of metal for plate armor.
2 units of metal for mail armor for a horse, 3 units if metal plate for head and chest is included.
1 unit of metal for a solid shield .5 units of metal .5 units of wood for a metal rimmed shield.

2 unit of wood for a bow.
1 unit of metal 1 unit of wood for spear/pike/halberd
1 unit of wood 1 unit of metal for 1h axe and throwing axe. 1.5 units of wood and 1.5 units of metal for 2h axe.
1.5 units of metal for a sword. 2.5 units of metal for a 2h sword.
1 unit of metal 1 unit of wood for a mace.
.5 units of metal for a dagger.
1 unit of metal and 1 unit of wood for 3 throwing spears, throwing axes.
1 unit of metal and 1 unit of wood to make 30 arrows/bolts.



This is what I've got for it currently.
The weapons and armor goes from weakest ( the top ) to strongest ( the bottom ).
The value for smithing I worked out roughly to allow you to upgrade men at a steady rate as long as you can acquire the materials.
There is enough to a few men per month relatively easily ( I dunno what materials NPC nations can offer. )
But the equipment requires enough units to prevent people from mass upgrading equipment to gain a huge advantage fast.

O btw mining got a majority.
Its on 6/11 now so mining passes I assume.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Yay, mining passes!

[mesor]

Lucky you lol mine only got a 3.

But anyway I think I have the smithing system balanced out fairly well.

[GreatWyrmGold]

While we haven't seen the rules for combat yet, that does seem a reasonable assumption.

[mesor]

Cool.
Then we need to work out what we're going to be discussing, there is a few systems yet to be sorted out for industries.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Might as well start.
Let's start with a basic industry, smithing. Discuss. What do you think of mesor's outline, and how much do you think one smith should be able to make in a month?

[mesor]

For fairness sake I'd say something like 2 weeks per item per smith so nobody can produce huge amounts in a short time without devoting enormous amounts of people to it.
On a side note,  I will never keep more then 50% of my metals for myself.

[GreatWyrmGold]

That's very nice of you.

[mesor]

Not really I'm just being fair since I have a lot of the metal income I should not keep more then half at most or it's a little bit unfair.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Fudge it, Im pulling out.

Someone can take the Circle.

[Tack]

welp, mesor just ruined alloy weapons for me.
I have no more reason to play this.

[mesor]

Dude thats my suggestion.
It's not set in stone thats the point of the committee thing you can play around with things or make your own suggestions to change things.
Change whatever you like I'll drop out, trying to set it up to keep things fair is clearly not going to work.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Whoa...with so many people dropping, is anyone still playing?
(And Tack, what did you expect, that aluminum would be a lighter steel?)

[Deny]

Yes I am, but I think the main reason people are dropping is that we still haven't played anything yet, we need to getthese rules out of the way soon