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[Aklyon]

if theyre trying to make me make my solitary cells more than a single tile with a toilet on it, i dont negotiate with terrorists

They just want them to have a roof, i think.

[miauw62]

i'm fine, then.

i just wish they'd stop introducing slightly annoying features and fix some of the bullshit in this game, such as the cell quality system (dont have quality 0 cells? LETS PUT YOUR ENTIRE PRISON INTO THE HOLDING CELL!) and supermax/protective custody prisoners getting put in shared cells.

[puke]

if theyre trying to make me make my solitary cells more than a single tile with a toilet on it, i dont negotiate with terrorists

They just want them to have a roof, i think.

A steel box in the sun was good enough for Cool Hand Luke.

[miauw62]

nope looks like just a roof isnt sufficient

"oh hey nobody likes temperature, what do we do?" "LETS FORCE PEOPLE TO PLAY AROUND IT EVEN MORE" "what about the people with savegames with people in solitary and no radiators?" "lol fuck them"

[Aklyon]

Except that as usual, weather if off by default.

[miauw62]

i had to build boilers into this save, and prisoners were definitely dying in cold solitary cells before i built radiators.

[forsaken1111]

i'm fine, then.

i just wish they'd stop introducing slightly annoying features and fix some of the bullshit in this game, such as the cell quality system (dont have quality 0 cells? LETS PUT YOUR ENTIRE PRISON INTO THE HOLDING CELL!) and supermax/protective custody prisoners getting put in shared cells.

Why not add in some quality zero cells for the unruly prisoners?

[Micro102]

Could someone suggest to me a way to play this game? I've played it months ago but after a few games I noticed something:

- Accepting prisoners when I was ready for them was far too easy.
- Having prisoners come in regularly was far too hard, and would eventually cause me to close the prison. It didn't feel like I accomplished anything.
- Prisoners are far too docile, even taking a ton of max security prisoners and basically torturing them and treating them as slaves wasn't enough for them to go full riot mode and try to break out.

[BigD145]

There are gangs and gangs will start shit with rival gangs and with guards. They stake out territory and make power plays.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Could someone suggest to me a way to play this game? I've played it months ago but after a few games I noticed something:

- Accepting prisoners when I was ready for them was far too easy.
- Having prisoners come in regularly was far too hard, and would eventually cause me to close the prison. It didn't feel like I accomplished anything.
- Prisoners are far too docile, even taking a ton of max security prisoners and basically torturing them and treating them as slaves wasn't enough for them to go full riot mode and try to break out.

Let your legendary prisoners play around--they will literally massacre your prison if given the chance.

[miauw62]

armed guards emit a suppression field, which makes prisoners docile, slow and basically ruins any chance at reform

try not using them (except in your entrance hallway/supermax wing)

i'm fine, then.

i just wish they'd stop introducing slightly annoying features and fix some of the bullshit in this game, such as the cell quality system (dont have quality 0 cells? LETS PUT YOUR ENTIRE PRISON INTO THE HOLDING CELL!) and supermax/protective custody prisoners getting put in shared cells.

Why not add in some quality zero cells for the unruly prisoners?

because it's obnoxious?

the way i see it, i can either spend my time building shitty cell blocks for no reward because some shitty mechanic forces me to, or not have a holding cell and run at slightly lower capacity with the advantage of not having to micromanage cell quality.

if i built one block and a riot happens, i'd still have 100 prisoners in my holding cell.

[Vattic]

Would make more sense if it treated the lowest quality cells in your prison as the worst possible cells and arranged inmates appropriately. It should be about the relative quality.

[EnigmaticHat]

Got this on the summer sale, having a lot of fun with it.  What I didn't expect when I bought it was how mundane it is. There's something kind of mesmerizing about watching a box of potatoes get shipped in on a truck, unloaded by the driver, brought through a metal detector by a workman, carried into a refrigerator in the kitchen, cooked, put out on a serving station, and then individually put on trays and eaten by the prisoners.  Lends the game a certain charm.

[Vattic]

Much like DF and ant farms. It's nice to watch your minions scurry.

[EnigmaticHat]

So, I've officially finished a prison.  I set out with an idea of what it was going to look like and I achieved that.  Its a small (well, it didn't end up that small) minimum security prison with a somewhat softer attitude towards the prisoners.

Spoiler: My prison (click to show/hide)

I brought in some medium security prisoners by accident the first day.  Aside from one of those prisoners, Mackenzie, who got upgraded to high security for beating a workman unconscious (and later picking fights with guards) everything has been pretty quiet.  Despite an incident where a workman demolished a wall before the foundation on the other side was complete and prisoners flooded out, the sole successful escape has been via tunnel, and there's been no deaths.  My anemic cashflow is usually supplemented by a hefty days without incident bonus, and there are no misdemeanors that are punished by solitary (we don't actually have a solitary wing).  Due to space constraints (I wanted the whole prison to be one brick building of a set size)  I don't have quite as many accommodations for the prisoners as I would like, the classroom and the yard and such are too small and I would like some more showers.  But really its a pretty nice prison to be assigned to all things considered.  Mackenzie is getting psycological help and I kind of want to see what happens there; either way he's up to be released soon and once that happens there's not going to be too much reason to stick around.  Guess I'll sell the prison and start a new one.

Since this was my first prison I went a while without doing anything about contraband.  This resulted in the amusing discovery that 3 prisoners had managed to smuggle, steal, and trade between them more than half the prison's contraband.  One had 5 different implements that could be used for digging, one had an impressive array of drugs, meds and alcohol, and the third had not only drugs and alcohol but 4 cell phones.