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[dennislp3]

I always have this problem where I start out small and it is this weird and inefficient design that I end up hating...I may just buy the plot across the street and make a much better layout and then demolish or re purpose this silly small prison I have going on after I transfer everyone over there

[forsaken1111]

How many dead snitches/copsprisoners is too much anyways?  Is it based on number of deaths over X time period?  Or a total max?

The failure condition for deaths is X deaths over Y time, specifically a high number of deaths in a single 24 hour period. Even after you meet it you get more time to rectify the situation I believe. A low but constant death toll will not trip the failure condition.

[Zangi]

How many dead snitches/copsprisoners is too much anyways?  Is it based on number of deaths over X time period?  Or a total max?

The failure condition for deaths is X deaths over Y time, specifically a high number of deaths in a single 24 hour period. Even after you meet it you get more time to rectify the situation I believe. A low but constant death toll will not trip the failure condition.

Cool.  Then my snitches gonna be getting stitches.  Cause we don't provide protective custody anymore.

[Aklyon]

I usually end up buying the area across the road and rebuilding a place for the specials over there, since I don't have any sort of room on the original side to add more groups.

[Sergius]

Oh nice, finally you can cancel a foundation and get the money back from the un-purchased materials, and it recalculates that same amount when resuming over the previous foundation remains.

Used to be that you got nothing when cancelling foundations.

[palu]

How good is this game? Is it similar to DF? I'm considering buying it, since it's on steam sale. Or, is there a cheaper place to get it?

[Graknorke]

It's pretty damn good, shares some elements with DF (indirect designation of tasks and areas rather than directly ordering units about), and as far as I know Steam is the cheapest place you're going to get it.

[Scripten]

How good is this game? Is it similar to DF? I'm considering buying it, since it's on steam sale. Or, is there a cheaper place to get it?

Get it.

Seriously. It's really good.

[palu]

Should I spring the extra $2.50 for their other games as well? So, if I understand it, it's basically DF: Prison Simulator?

[Graknorke]

Introversion have never made a bad game, I am confident in saying.

Unless you count Subversion, which created a bunch of really great tech demos but wasn't ever actually released.

[nenjin]

I really wouldn't compare PA to DF. It's not that the comparison is inexact, I just think it might leave some people disappointed with PA. Which, while awesome, isn't quite up to DF's level of simulation. It simulates prison's GREAT, and better with every update. But comparing it to DF implies a lot of things it doesn't do.

Anyways, great game, get it. As for older Introversion products, the only one I've played that I'll recommend is Uplink, for a lightweight hacking simulator. Darwinia/Multiwinia....never played em.

[jocan2003]

Introversion have never made a bad game, I am confident in saying.

Unless you count Subversion, which created a bunch of really great tech demos but wasn't ever actually released.

Man now i just god damn wish subervsion would be a thing.... maybe after prison architect? Someone has to hope...

[BigD145]

I'm pretty sure Subversion was permanently shelved so Prison Architect could exist.

[dennislp3]

If I am not mistaken they ripped a few systems out of subversion and turned them into PA

[Karlito]

I'm pretty sure Subversion was permanently shelved so Prison Architect could exist.

Not permanently.

"Subversion has not been cancelled, but I would certainly forget about it for now. We will be going back to that project eventually, but the first thing I plan to do is gut the thing from top to bottom of all the tech fluff that we forced in over the years. Without a core game it’s all a worthless distraction, and I will NEVER again spend so long making tech for a game without having a solid core game in place first. Subversion needs a total rethink from top to bottom, and some long standing sacred cows need slaughtering. "