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[Scelly9]

lol @ the old blame ea game

i'm sure that most all of you disagree, but imo bioware's games have been pretty much shit from the beginning

Have you ever actually played one?

[TripJack]

everything between shattered steel and dragon age, yes

mass effect was the last straw, for me at least

[Scelly9]

You're probably more of an expert than me on them, but I think labeling all their game as shit is a bit unfair. I really enjoyed Neverwinter Nights, for one. The two Dragon Age's as well.

[TripJack]

nwn was a very cool platform for multiplayer, i will give them that

[Scelly9]

Perhaps we should make a Bay 12 server.

[fenrif]

You're probably more of an expert than me on them, but I think labeling all their game as shit is a bit unfair. I really enjoyed Neverwinter Nights, for one. The two Dragon Age's as well.

Calling Dragon Age 2 shit isn't unfair. It's apt. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapt!

[Xeron]

Calling Baldur's Gate 1 and 2,and Planescape torment shit demands you to be hammered and meteor swarmed.
TO DEATH !

[ChairmanPoo]

Planescape Torment was the brainchild of Chris Avellone. I don't think these two guys were all that involved.

As for the rest... meh, they have their ups and downs, methinks. BG1 had a very annoying start (the ending was not bad though). Baldur's Gate 2 has some neat ideas, but they became mired in a disaster-plot-planning. TBH I found most of the sidequests more interesting than the main plot itself (which had some very interesting P:Torment-y  ideas but became botched due to poor exposition and bad pacing)

As for NWN... I think it's not a big secret that the main campaign in both games is kind of... weak. Granted, they had a scheudle to meet and they forced to release both of them half-finished. But still, not that good. Not shit at all, they're decent games. But also annoying flaws

[Digital Hellhound]

Planescape: Torment isn't a Bioware game. Did these guys work at Black Isle?

[Microcline]

Calling Baldur's Gate 1 and 2,and Planescape torment shit demands you to be hammered and meteor swarmed.
TO DEATH !

PS:T was made by Black Isle.  While Bioware always struck me as a mediocre version of Black Isle/Obsidian, it's still unfortunate to see what happened after the EA takeover.  There's no way we'd have seen the debacles of DA2, Bioware Austin or the loss of so much of the old guard without them.  I have nothing but sympathy for the fans driven away by EA's actions, and we can commiserate over what they did to Origin, Bullfrog, Maxis, Westwood, and DICE (no sympathy for anyone who's still a Bioware fan though, the only ones left after DA2, ME3, and SW:TOR are the kind of fucking weirdos who feel the need to analyze Tali's sweat and gush about their virgin elf waifus).

[TripJack]

i would never say that ps:t was shit

that would be blasphemy