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[Urist McSpike]

So, a question I think I know the answer to already:

Dwarves go to the food stockpile, pick up food and carry it to an available table to eat.  But when drinking, they stand in the drink stockpile, on top of the barrel.  Is there any way (or planned change) to get them to carry their booze away from the stockpile to drink?  I haven't found any way to do it, yet.

Here's my problem - I'm making track stop/quantum stockpiles for food & drink, on the level above.  Food & drink (barrels) are placed in the stockpile, dumped into an empty space by the minecart & track stop, where they land on a 1x1 stockpile below.  The food pile works great!  But I'm afraid to implement the drink stockpile, because I envision full barrels of booze crashing onto the dwarf standing below.  Plus having a 1x1 stockpile might limit how many dwarves can actually drink.

Edit:  Spoke too soon!
The *turkey hen egg roast (38)* strikes the Miller in the right lower leg, shattering the bone through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller's right upper leg skids along the ground, bruising the muscle through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller gives in to pain.

[doublestrafe]

The *turkey hen egg roast (38)* strikes the Miller in the right lower leg, shattering the bone through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller's right upper leg skids along the ground, bruising the muscle through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller gives in to pain.

This belongs here.

[Urist McSpike]

It certainly gives new meaning to the phrase "Food Fight!".  Remember kiddies, it's all fun & games until the mashed potatoes put someone's eye out!

[PaleBlueHammer]

Food and drink, stored in barrels and pots, can't be quantum stockpiled because of the containers.  You can't drop them from above because the dwarfs will get hit by the falling stuff (even if they just take it and walk away, eventually someone will get knocked unconscious and then lay there until something else comes falling down on them).

You can dump items straight from a cart onto the floor next to it, but stockpiles have a container limit to them, which means the 1x1 tile will accept exactly one barrel/pot before the dwarfs then try to move it to a different pile with empty space.

You can't store booze without a container.  (Try autodump from dfhack on your booze stockpile sometime and watch what happens.)  You CAN make a food stockpile that accepts no barrels.  However this draws flies and vermin, so I just make regular large stockpiles for consumables.  Bars, stone, cloth... pretty much anything else can be quantum stockpiled without the container.

[GoombaGeek]

The *turkey hen egg roast (38)* strikes the Miller in the right lower leg, shattering the bone through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller's right upper leg skids along the ground, bruising the muscle through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller gives in to pain.

This belongs here.

people link to my thread in other threads

 

[Urist McSpike]

That's what I was afraid of.  I knew you needed to store drinks in barrels, but I'm not sure about the container limit.  I know there is the limit from the stockpile properties, but I do have a Furniture (Barrel) quantum stockpile that has around 30 barrels on one tile.  Also, my quantum food stockpile has 2 barrels of food on it.  But I don't know how that'd work for barrels of booze...

I was really wondering if there was some trick I had missed, to get them to pick up booze, and then go to the dining hall to drink, instead of hovering around the drink stockpile.  I was originally going to have the dumping done from above, so my first concern was about barrels falling on them while they drink, but there's the problem of dwarves standing on the barrel to drink, so it might limit them to one drinking at a time.  Which would quickly lead to problems of a different nature.

[PaleBlueHammer]

I know there is the limit from the stockpile properties, but I do have a Furniture (Barrel) quantum stockpile that has around 30 barrels on one tile. 

You can store furniture items as much as you want, as in, they are empty and not being used.  But for container limits on the stockpiles themselves, such as bins which hold bars on your bars stockpile, each tile can only hold one.  I would not be surprised if a dwarf comes along and tries to free up the extra barrel on your food stockpile.

I worked with this problem myself for a few days before giving in and making regular large stockpiles.  I made one large stockpile near my stills and kitchens, which holds everything (in containers) except for prepared food.  That serves as cooking ingredients, flour, plants, etc, as well as booze overflow.  In my meeting hall, I have two smaller piles for ONLY prepared food (in containers) and then another two for booze, and the booze stockpiles there in the meeting room pull from the overflow pile.  This means sometimes dwarfs drink at the overflow stockpile, but it helps keep my meeting hall neat(er).

[Urist McSpike]

Yeah, I usually just do a huge stockpile for booze & cooked food, next to the dining hall, but I'm trying to use track stops to do some more condensed storage.  I'm actually using a method from the wiki (I think):

gg  - g - gathering stockpile
gSr - S - track stop, taking from g & dumping to r
gg  - r - quantum stockpile

I have several of these above my kitchens, one each for: empty barrels & jugs, distillable plants, unprepared food, tallow, processable non-food (pig tails, dimple cups).  And then more over the crafting area, for wood, bars, blocks, sand bags, gems & such.  It's a great setup for things that take a lot of room, like wood or stone blocks.  But not so much for booze.

[MadocComadrin]

You can store furniture items as much as you want, as in, they are empty and not being used.  But for container limits on the stockpiles themselves, such as bins which hold bars on your bars stockpile, each tile can only hold one.  I would not be surprised if a dwarf comes along and tries to free up the extra barrel on your food stockpile.

Even with a minecart induced quantum stockpile?

[Nyxalinth]

The *turkey hen egg roast (38)* strikes the Miller in the right lower leg, shattering the bone through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller's right upper leg skids along the ground, bruising the muscle through the dog leather trousers!
The Miller gives in to pain.

This belongs here.

Ninja'ed!

[MadocComadrin]

If it's over 7 hours, it's less of him being a ninja and more of you being

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[Drazinononda]

You can store furniture items as much as you want, as in, they are empty and not being used.  But for container limits on the stockpiles themselves, such as bins which hold bars on your bars stockpile, each tile can only hold one.  I would not be surprised if a dwarf comes along and tries to free up the extra barrel on your food stockpile.

Even with a minecart induced quantum stockpile?

Anything can be quockpiled with minecarts.

[Xob Ludosmbax]

Anything can be quockpiled with minecarts.

Booze?  I haven't figured out how to get around the "only 1 barrel allowed in a 1x1 pile" issue.  Maybe with links.

[PaleBlueHammer]

You can store furniture items as much as you want, as in, they are empty and not being used.  But for container limits on the stockpiles themselves, such as bins which hold bars on your bars stockpile, each tile can only hold one.  I would not be surprised if a dwarf comes along and tries to free up the extra barrel on your food stockpile.

Even with a minecart induced quantum stockpile?

Anything can be quockpiled with minecarts.

The problem, as I noted above, is keeping container items (barrels, bins, pots full of stuff) in your quantum pile when there's a container limit of one on it.  Your gathering pile will always have more room, ergo you will see dwarfs endlessly moving in circles, dumping things into the quantum pile and then moving it back again.

[melphel]

But when drinking, they stand in the drink stockpile, on top of the barrel.

The dwarven kegstand is the preferred method of alcohol consumption.

What if you made the receiving stockpile where the minecart dumps the booze be large enough to have many containers?  The containers themselves would all be on the same tile, but the pile's container limit wouldn't be breached by a couple barrels.  Although even if this worked, the issue of them standing on the same tile as the barrel to drink remains.  Either they would crowd into the same tile, or only one dwarf would be able to get a drink from the tile at a time.