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Hey quick question
« on: September 19, 2012, 09:40:18 pm »

What are your preconceptions about the south? I don't mean like, Kentucky south, I mean like, semi-rural Georgia south.

The reason I ask is that we just got a new teacher at our high school from Virginia who seems to think that we are all buck toothed fucking invalids, and when she brought up the recent riots in the middle east I don't think she could conceive the fact that I composed a solid rebuttal to her stance, because afterwards she thought I didn't know what I was talking about.

(Because I know the psychoanalyseseses... (NNNNGH WORDS FUCK) are incoming, this incident is not the only example of this behavior, but was the catalyst for me to ask the question. For example, when one of my friends, a sophomore, was told in class that his class probably hasn't read a book longer than a thousand pages, he said he had. Annnd she didn't believe him. For the curious, I think it was one of the harry potter books and I know for a fact that he can recite that shit from heart.)

Anyway this could very well be the fact that she's coming from a virginian public school system (She's taking the whole "Private school means religion is allowed" thing waaaaaaaaay too seriously. It's not a problem, our entire class is christian, but it's still a tad bit disconcerting.), but i'm tired and I need sleep so I'll wait until morning to read what everyone thinks.

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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 09:42:02 pm »

I think that in general things are pretty messed up there, socially. However, I wouldn't judge any individual person to be anything at all until I met them. Where you come from isn't a good enough indicator to make a solid inductive argument about you, and I don't judge people based on weak inductive arguments.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 10:07:03 pm »

What are your preconceptions about the south? I don't mean like, Kentucky south, I mean like, semi-rural Georgia south.

The reason I ask is that we just got a new teacher at our high school from Virginia who seems to think that we are all buck toothed fucking invalids, and when she brought up the recent riots in the middle east I don't think she could conceive the fact that I composed a solid rebuttal to her stance, because afterwards she thought I didn't know what I was talking about.

(Because I know the psychoanalyseseses... (NNNNGH WORDS FUCK) are incoming, this incident is not the only example of this behavior, but was the catalyst for me to ask the question. For example, when one of my friends, a sophomore, was told in class that his class probably hasn't read a book longer than a thousand pages, he said he had. Annnd she didn't believe him. For the curious, I think it was one of the harry potter books and I know for a fact that he can recite that shit from heart.)

Anyway this could very well be the fact that she's coming from a virginian public school system (She's taking the whole "Private school means religion is allowed" thing waaaaaaaaay too seriously. It's not a problem, our entire class is christian, but it's still a tad bit disconcerting.), but i'm tired and I need sleep so I'll wait until morning to read what everyone thinks.
Well thats really fucked up as it sounds like she took the job to pity you guys but proved her ass wrong. Just start condescending her till she figures out you guys have more braincells then she originally thought.

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 11:47:32 am »

Yeah, same here. Your teacher seems to be an idiot. Condescending her seems like a good idea. Pity that poor idiot, she might take the hint :p

Other than that ... I actually lived in semi-rural Georgia for six months or so (something like 40 minutes away from Augusta, in the middle of nowhere).

I knew very little about that place before, and I was surprised at how nice people were - I expected them to be much more aggressive against strangers and people who don't think like them. I don't know how much they knew about me though.

Their accent was unintelligible half of the time though (and so was mine for them, french accent, yay ! - we spent half of our discussions saying "what?") - that preconception was true :p

I kinda expected most people I met to be strongly republican, and they were. Most people I met had little college education too. But that may simply be because I met a certain kind of social class during my stay there, and not representative of georgians in general.

Oh, the other thing that surprised me was to learn that many (though not all) people at work have lived in lots of different places. I thought southern people tended to stay in the south for all of their lives, but no.



All in all, the whole experience was very fun and full of very weird surprises.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 12:43:34 pm »

What are your preconceptions about the south? I don't mean like, Kentucky south, I mean like, semi-rural Georgia south.
Since when is Kentucky not South? I don't know if you'd count North Carolina as the version of the South you mean, but whatever.

Being a lifelong Southerner from a Southern family, my thoughts about the South are obviously going to be different. I like it here. The culture is great. The Jesus freaks are not. Sweet tea and barbecue are the height of independent American cuisine and are from the South more than anywhere else.

If there were fewer conservatives in my state I'd have no real issues with the South, but the NC liberals still get victories from time to time. Mostly on the county level and below, the actual state Congress is a joke right now.
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The reason I ask is that we just got a new teacher at our high school from Virginia who seems to think that we are all buck toothed fucking invalids, and when she brought up the recent riots in the middle east I don't think she could conceive the fact that I composed a solid rebuttal to her stance, because afterwards she thought I didn't know what I was talking about.
Details? What is her stance? What was your rebuttal? Why do you think she thinks you are stupid?
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(Because I know the psychoanalyseseses... (NNNNGH WORDS FUCK) are incoming, this incident is not the only example of this behavior, but was the catalyst for me to ask the question. For example, when one of my friends, a sophomore, was told in class that his class probably hasn't read a book longer than a thousand pages, he said he had. Annnd she didn't believe him. For the curious, I think it was one of the harry potter books and I know for a fact that he can recite that shit from heart.)
It sounds less like she thinks you're stupid because you're Southerners and more because you're high school students.
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Anyway this could very well be the fact that she's coming from a virginian public school system (She's taking the whole "Private school means religion is allowed" thing waaaaaaaaay too seriously.
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It's not a problem, our entire class is christian, but it's still a tad bit disconcerting.
That's quite the statement. Do you know for certain that every single person in your class is an avowed Christian, or are you just assuming that?
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2012, 10:18:26 pm »

Thanks for the replies! Understand I made that OP at 11:30 a few nights ago when I had just heard that she was mocking dissing generally talking bad about me, so I was suuuuper pissed. It's kind of blown over now, but i'll still answer questions.

What are your preconceptions about the south? I don't mean like, Kentucky south, I mean like, semi-rural Georgia south.
Since when is Kentucky not South? I don't know if you'd count North Carolina as the version of the South you mean, but whatever.

Being a lifelong Southerner from a Southern family, my thoughts about the South are obviously going to be different. I like it here. The culture is great. The Jesus freaks are not. Sweet tea and barbecue are the height of independent American cuisine and are from the South more than anywhere else.

If there were fewer conservatives in my state I'd have no real issues with the South, but the NC liberals still get victories from time to time. Mostly on the county level and below, the actual state Congress is a joke right now.

I'm not really sure what I meant. Of course everywhere in the south is, well, the south. Even North Carolina. Especially North Carolina. In fact the least southern place in the south is probably Atlanta.

Fuck yes sweet tea is amazing and so is barbecue. In general southern food is delicious, not just barbecue. Have you ever had a Lousisanianan (Hey english yeah) dish before? I swear shrimp and grits is one of the best things to have on a cold night.

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The reason I ask is that we just got a new teacher at our high school from Virginia who seems to think that we are all buck toothed fucking invalids, and when she brought up the recent riots in the middle east I don't think she could conceive the fact that I composed a solid rebuttal to her stance, because afterwards she thought I didn't know what I was talking about.
Details? What is her stance? What was your rebuttal? Why do you think she thinks you are stupid?

It's hard to remember, but we had this really long debate where she thought that it was a coordinated muslim attack (That's not very probable) and how wow people have made videos parodizing jesus before (and hey we don't get angry because it's okay to display jesus in popular culture) and nobody got mad. It was generally long and angry and she was pulling out her condescension-fu on us.

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(Because I know the psychoanalyseseses... (NNNNGH WORDS FUCK) are incoming, this incident is not the only example of this behavior, but was the catalyst for me to ask the question. For example, when one of my friends, a sophomore, was told in class that his class probably hasn't read a book longer than a thousand pages, he said he had. Annnd she didn't believe him. For the curious, I think it was one of the harry potter books and I know for a fact that he can recite that shit from heart.)
It sounds less like she thinks you're stupid because you're Southerners and more because you're high school students.

Yeah now that i'm less angry about it i'm pretty sure this is the case. Most of what I thought was cultural hating (?) is probably just inexperience and not wishing to step on toes and failing horribly.

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Anyway this could very well be the fact that she's coming from a virginian public school system (She's taking the whole "Private school means religion is allowed" thing waaaaaaaaay too seriously.
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It's not a problem, our entire class is christian, but it's still a tad bit disconcerting.
That's quite the statement. Do you know for certain that every single person in your class is an avowed Christian, or are you just assuming that?
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Like I said, it wasn't anything big, she just, for a couple of weeks at the start of junior year she would pray our class in and out. It wasn't offensive, I guess, it was just awkward.

And yes, we have 30-40 people in our junior class (small school) and there is 1 catholic, a few Methodists, a couple of Presbyterians, and the rest are Baptists.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2012, 10:24:46 pm »

In fact the least southern place in the south is probably Atlanta.
Cultural anthropologists generally recognize Atlanta to be the center of Southern culture, not the exception to it.
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It's hard to remember, but we had this really long debate where she thought that it was a coordinated muslim attack (That's not very probable)
The embassy attack actually was coordinated. It was committed by a group called Ansar al-Sharia, a Yemeni offshoot of al-Qaeda. Check the Egypt, Libya and the world thread in GD, it is keeping track of the whole thing.
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Like I said, it wasn't anything big, she just, for a couple of weeks at the start of junior year she would pray our class in and out. It wasn't offensive, I guess, it was just awkward.
That's.... interesting. Even when I attended a religious middle school there wasn't that much prayer. Glad I switched back to public, though.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2012, 10:38:59 pm »

How exactly does one make "barbecue"? I have heard of barbecuing, and even enjoy doing it, but I have never had "barbecue."
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2012, 10:42:45 pm »

Barbecue is a classification of food that has been barbecued through use of a grill, not a food in and of itself.

Note that there is an ongoing Grill War concerning the Glorious Empire of Charcoal and the United Confederation of Propane. The Free City of Wood is also involved, but is much less prevalent. None the less, express no opinion of your grill fuel preferences around a Grillmeister that differs from his or her own grill. Doing so may lead to debate, violence, and/or cannibalism via human barbecue.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2012, 10:43:13 pm »

How exactly does one make "barbecue"? I have heard of barbecuing, and even enjoy doing it, but I have never had "barbecue."

Imagine slaw, but the vegetables are BBQ's pork asses and the sauce is Outshack Joe's Failin' Organs.

It is excellent.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2012, 10:44:18 pm »

Tennessean born and raised.
Its not nearly as bad as people think it is down here. I've never really been discriminated against, and most racists nowadays know how to keep their mouths shut. Of course if your one of those guys that can't take a joke from time the time, you might have some problems. Crimes pretty high, but that's probably just a Memphis thing. 
That being said, my mother has told me about certain small towns that told her: "Get your gas and get out".

Basically, nothing happens here that doesn't happen everywhere else in the U.S.A.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 12:05:38 am »

What are your preconceptions about the south? I don't mean like, Kentucky south, I mean like, semi-rural Georgia south.

My only preconception: If someone with a southern accent opens their mouth to speak, I will punch it closed. It is my RAGE button. It's so bad that where I work my colleagues know to get American people away from me fast.

So sorry for having to say that, but goddamn it, your accents drive me insane.

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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 12:06:51 am »

Someone has issues.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 12:19:11 am »

Indeed.
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Re: Hey quick question
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 12:24:15 am »

Well, living here, everybody seems mostly normal. However, I do have a friend with is a rather technologically adapt redneck. He built a tank.
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