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[tryrar]

See if we can get anything like a PPC(Particle Projection Cannon for those who don't know battletech) for the ship, or failing that a cruiser grade phaser

[Ukrainian Ranger]

And why I think that puting AI on charge on turret is quite safe even if we don't trust him.

He can do 3 dangerous things
a) use turrets to fire at us
b) don't fire turret at enemies
c) Fire at neutrals to provoke them
But all this will lead to his own death, something that he shouldn't be interested in.
He can't get control on all ship, kill us, and act on our own if turret will stay unlinked to the rest of the computer system (That mean that this turret need it's own sensors and targeting, but it's logical for an automatic turret)

[Aseaheru]

HQ resources cheaper than MQ? I think it's a typo

Shopping  list: ( or rather learn prices list)

1) I think we should try to look for 4th turret, preferably a fully automated one, so we could unload the whole AI in it later, replacing it's software ( bonus if we buy it without software, cheaper)
2) Failing that, buy computers and make fully automated turret out of our quad railgun one.
3) Look for new reactor(s) or way to repair existing reactors
4) Try to find a price for our dissembled military grade reactor... maybe it's not worthless here
5) I'd consider selling poltergeist missiles, they can cost quite a lot here. 2 Zephyrus Orbit to air missiles are good candidates for sale, too. We aren't planning to bomb someone
6) Also, ask for the price of missile launchers.  We don't  need 4 of them and cruiser sized missile launcher should be quite rare on the market
7) Look for a badass weapon that can replace a missile launcher
Buy personal scale assault rifles


After purchases we should go hunt pirates

im with this except for #6.
we might have to engage many, many baddies at once. plus, if we have them loaded with diffident rounds if we want to fire, say, flares and we have one loaded with them allready we dont have to wait for unloading and reloading before we can fire one.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

flares and we have one loaded with them allready we dont have to wait for unloading and reloading before we can fire one.

as far as I  can say we can fire any missile loader, GM never  treated missile launchers individually for purposes of loading\unloading...
abd we never  came close to firing 4 missiles in one go

Besides, I propose to replace missile launcher with a new, fun gun... of cause another possibility is to replace 1 or two powerhungry lasers... but I'd rather not too ( except we get veryyyy interesting offer for the lasers)

[Aseaheru]

i mean if we have 4 missiles loaded with different things then we can respond more intelligently to different situations.
even if we have 2 different things loaded among the 4 launchers we can still respond to more threats then is, say, they were all loaded with the same thing.
like say we have 3 with normal rounds and the 4th with a decoy.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

i mean if we have 4 missiles loaded with different things

And I mean that GM never prohibited us to use any missile from any we
loaded. There are no separate magazines for every launcher in the stats.

And ability to use 4 missiles per one salvo may be somewhat useful much later, the cash (and a new gun) will have immediate impact. We still have quite fucked ship and need to do many repairs. 4.5 power per round isn't adequate to our needs.
Of cause we should consider selling the launcher only if we get a nice offer

[10ebbor10]

It turns out fully automated turrets are rather hard to find, as even commercial ship's are nowadays equiped with a central targetting and firecontrol system. The only fully autonomous systems you can find are a pair of old flak guns, which, while inefficient are remarkably reliable. You doubt they would be capable of supporting an AI though. You think about automating one of your other turrets instead, but while that's a possibility, the problem poses itself that the turret doesn't have it's own targetting and sensor systems.

Not unsuprisingly, the supply of Cruiser sized reactors is rather small, and there's no demand for them either. Even if someone wanted that kind of power output, they wouldn't have the tools nor the supplies to repair it. Likewise, the supply of Cruiser sized weaponry is limited, though you do manage to find some nice ones. Almost all of them are rather damaged though, and certainly outdated.

You manage to get a nice offer for the Poltergeist missile, as well as for the Zephyrus missiles. Someone, who logically prefers to stay anonymous, is willing to buy the entire supply for 2200 credits.
Offers for the missile launcher vary wildly, but you expect you can get between 500-800 credits for the weapon. Most likely, it'll be used to defend some station somewhere.

 

((Oh, if you want to add an extra system, go look for it or make it yourself))

Spoiler: Goods avaible(Black market (click to show/hide)

Missiles
- Emergency flare (Longe range, large, slow ,thermic payload designed to show up on radar screens) :26
- Skiff missile (Designed to confuse enemy targetting, slow, short ranged) : 37
- Comm jammer missile (Designed to jam enemy com systems)   :48
- Aegis Missile (Small, very fast, decent range , extremely small payload): 137 each (121 available)
- Mosquito missile (Small, fact, decent range, small payload): 56 each (123 avaible)
- Dummy misille (Small-Large, decent range, no payload): 16 each (Avaible in all sorts/ sizes)
- Firelance missile (Small, long range, dumbfire, medium payload): 89 (65 avaible)
- Dragonfly anti fighter missile (Small, long range, Image recognition, Small-medium payload): 120 (65)
- Ion missile (Stuns, small, long range, Laser targetted, Stun payload) 765 [12]
- Asteroid Crusher (Slow, short range, Dumb fired, High yield payload): 425 (6)
- Light Driller nuke (Extremely slow, large range; dumb fire, Nuclear payload): 1690 [Requires permits to have and use] (1)


Weaponry:
PPC:(A rather heavy weapon that uses ionized plasma to destroy stuff. Warning, High waste heat. Significant failure chance. Quite damaged) 780
Standard railgun (The things you have now. Damaged): 560
Large plasma cannon (Energy hungry, short range, lightly damaged): 910
Weapon scrap and parts: 460 (Just if you want to make your own)
Heavily damaged unknown weapon:(This thing appears to be heavily damaged, as well as highly experimental in nature. Several parts closely resemble jumpcores and such.) 2100
Docking harpoon : 170
Automated flak turret: 250



General:
Fuel: 2.7 credits each
Food: 1.3 credits each
Simple tools: 349
Advanced tools: 610
Microbiochemical labratory: 1710
Foundry: 890
Crate of perfectly ligimate biochemicals: 121
Automatical Medical scanning unit: 890
Nanofactory: 31.000

Resources: (A system repair will need about 10 of these, with difference on how complicated they are)
Simple electronics 9/unit
Electronics 19/ unit
Complex electronics: 54/unit
Experimental electronics: 34/Unit

LQ resources: 3/unit
MQ resources: 12/ unit
HQ resources: 27/unit

Hull plating:

Dunarim light hull plating: 0.9/unit
Teladine hull plating: 5.5/unit
Military quality hull plating: 20/unit

Spoiler:  Prodistum-23 (click to show/hide)

Zeus (Large gasgaint)
     -New Athena
     -Several other moons
Asteroid belt
Hephaistos (Gasgiant)
     -New Thebe
     -Ganymede
     -Callisto
     -Several other moons
Asteroid belt
Midnight
Prodistum-23

Spoiler: Vanguard (click to show/hide)

Gas giant
Gasgiant
- Asteroid belt
- Asteroid belt
- Barren planet [Bombarded]
- Aquatic planet [bombarded]
      -Moon (light bombardement)
- Terrestial, planet [bombarded, thick+ poisonous planet]
      -Moon: [Habitable]
Vanguard

Spoiler: Job list (click to show/hide)

An NGO wants you to bring humanitary aid towards the pirate controlled sectors in the libertitas system. Technically, the pirates are supposed to be quarantained and bereft of supplies, but the governement doesn't posses the force to maintain the blockade.

A Mining compagny is looking to hire people to find out what happened to it's mining outpost, which was located in one of the sectors taken over by the pirates. They also have security enforcement options for several other mining installations.

Some civilians are having problem with their spacestation. It was recently hit by a micrometeroid, and they need to gather a lot of spare parts for repairs.

You can probably gather more jobs near the black market, or somewhere else.

Spoiler: Sector Map (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Assets and reputations (click to show/hide)

Credits: 1900
Merchants: Acquinted
MMC: Acquinted
Military: Not trusted
Sector Police: Currently being registered

Spoiler: Salvation (click to show/hide)

A large Alliance Cruiser, dating back to the war. Modified and refitted by the crew. The ship's painted in light blue, with several spots and stripes added to aid in visual deception. There are several fake spots on the wings, and stripes to make the ship appear longer. The Engines are painted in a blue/white combination, matching the color of the engine exhaust(in space, in the air it's quite obvious if the engines are on or not). The top bridge is flanked by 2 stars, painted in orange and black. On the sides, the name of the ship is painted in big friendly letters.

Armour: Depleted, several holes ( 4490 Good. 1220 damaged, 310 Teladine)
Structural: 1800/3000
Power supply: 4.5/7 (5/5 storage)
Fuel: 208/2000
Crew: 30
              -2 Pirate faction A

Subsystems:
       -Weaponry:
             - 4 Lasers
             Integrity:60/60; Power: 1/2
             - 4 Rail guns
             Integrity:60/60; Power: 0/1;Ammunition: 1 slugs, 2 arrow, 20 fighter shells
             - Turrets: [3/4 mounted]
             Plasma cannon turret
             Integrity:15/15 Power: 0.5/0.5
             Quad fighter railgun turret
             Integrity:15/15 Power: 0.25/0.25 Ammuntion: 400/400
             Flak cannon
             Integrity:15/15 Power: 0.1/0.1 Ammuntion: 20/50
             - 4 Missile launchers
             Integrity:60/60; Missiles: 11/20
                    -Tow missile (1)
                    -Mosquito missiles (2)
                    -4 aegis missiles (Very fast, agile, Very low payload)
                    -2 Zephyrus Orbit to air missiles (slow, large target, laser guided, High payload)
                    -2  Wasp missiles (fast, unguided, small payload)


      -Control
      BridgeIntegrity: 20/20 Manned; MQ computing system; Cargoship OS
      Automated sensor systems: Online (+2 to targetting and detection)

      -Sensors
            -MQ Passive sensor:online
            Integrity: 30/30
            -MQ Active (Targetting) sensor: online
            Integrity: 40/40

       -Lifesupport
       Integrity: 60/60;Power use: 1/1; Heat: Normal (0/20)

       -Reactors
         4/7:Online;Integrity:40/40;
         3/7:Offline;Integrity:2.5/40;
         Civilian Pulse reactorOnline Integrity: 20/20
         Battery Integrity: 10

       -Jumpdrive
           -Jumpcore
            Integrity: 75/80Charge: 50%
            -Jumpcontrol:
            Integrity: 40/40;Manual control;Slow automatic calc
            -Jumpcapacitors
            Integrity: 26/80; Tertiary capacitor only Power: 1/3

       -Engines
            - Main engines (1/2 working)
            Engine one: Integrity: 50/50 Power: 1/1
            Engine two: Integrity: 5/50 Power: 0/1
            -Auxilary thrusters
            Integrity:40/80;4/8 Online Power: 0.5/1

       -Docking bay  (4/4)
               -Cargo shuttle (142/400 fuel)
               Integrity: 80/80;Armor: 200/200; Cargo:000/1000
               -"Red Rocket" (Lamprey class boat) (43/100 fuel)
               Integrity: 60/60;Armor: 60/60; Railguns: Online;Ammo: 100/100 Cargo:0/10
               -Pirate Fighter (20/50 fuel)                                   
Integrity: 60/60;Armor: 20/20; Missiles(2/2): Handmade Missile   Cargo:0/20
               -Pirate Fighter (20/50 fuel)                                     
Integrity: 60/60;Armor: 20/20; Missiles(2/2): Handmade Missile Cargo:0/20

       -Cargo Bays (5)
           -Cargo bay Alpha
           Integrity: 100/100; Cargo:1250/1250
           -Cargo Bay A
           Integrity: 40/40; Cargo:200/200
           -Cargo Bay B
           Integrity: 40/40; Cargo: 200/200
           -Cargo Bay C
           Integrity:40/40; Cargo: 200/200
           -Cargo Bay D
           Integrity:40/40; Cargo: 200/200

      Other:
          -Medbay [0/10 People; Decent equipment. Supplies:5/10]
 
      -Habitation
           -Common room
           -10 4 people chambers
           -2 20 people chambers
Cargo: (1892.1/2050)
468 units of food (1 unit per crewmember per day) [184]
Plenty of low quality scrap metal and damaged armour/hull plating [135]
5 Cargo protection
44 duranim [44]
5 Teladine [5]
10 units of cheap electronics[1]
10 units of MQ resources[11]
31 spacesuits (Modified emergency suits, not that durable, nor usefull.) [3.1]
1 Mechanized space suit [0.5]
475 units of railgun ammunition [Scrap Based, S] [47.5]
25 Hollow rail gun shells [Scrapbased, L] [25]
     -Water [25/25]
8 ballista arrows [Scrap based, M] [4]
10 ballista arrows [Scrapbased, Hardened arrow head ,M] [5]
9 HD slugs [Scrapbased, L] [9]
Advanced tools [20]
2 Crawler drones [10]
3 Hand made missiles(Slow, unguided, Medium payload) [Unreliable] [3]
2 Poltergeist missiles (stealth, fast, self guided, 2 stage missile, no payload)[8]
1 box of medicine [1]
HQ rations (=200 rations. Note: doesn't include water and stuff)[1]
Damaged Original reactor [200]
AI core [1]

Spoiler: Fuel Use (click to show/hide)

Short use (Dodging, in area short movement)
- Cargo shuttle: 5 fuel
- Lamprey: 1 fuel
- Auxilary engines: 1.25 each
- Main engines: 10 each
Medium use(Exploration of sector, moving between relatively close sectors)
-Cargo shuttle: 10 fuel
- Lamprey: 5 fuel
- Auxilary engines : 2.5 each (Note, even at the best of times you can only use 4 due to their placement)
- Main engines : 15 each
Long term use (Moving between relatively far away sectors)
-Cargo shuttle: 25 fuel
- Lamprey: 10 fuel
- Auxilary engines : 7.5 each (Note, Even at the best of times you can only use 4 at once due to their placement)
- Main engines : 25 each

Spoiler: Characters (click to show/hide)

-John Gibson (TylerTheCreator)
     -Gunner
-Promtho (Terra 162)
     -Engineer
-Diana Banks (Ukrainian Ranger)
     -Diplomat
-George William Gyralt (GreatWyrmWold)
     -Doctor
-Legion McCaffee (Dariush)
     -Mechanic
Max Lukasson (Tophat)
     -Pilot
-Baxter (Hubris Incalculable)
    -Computer Technician
Charlie Phelps (The Card)
    -Field medic
Shia Trotsky (GotdamnMiracle)
    -Recon
    -Lightweight armored EVA equipment (+4 defense, fire resistant)
David Chapel
    -Head of personnel
Domas (Aseaheru)
   -EVA
   -Pulse rifle

Spoiler: Memoranda (click to show/hide)

If you want an action executed by the crew, just type and bold it. If you want it to be done by your character, please explicitedly state so, and use bold +Italics.
Character actions might be ignored during conflicts or for secret GM reasons.

Anyway, going to list combat modifiers just because I can. These are not used in the previous encounter, because the system wasn't ready. These can be subject to additional modifiers from player actions.

For targetting:
Cruiser class weaponry: - 4
No targetting computer: -1
Laser weaponry: +2
Plasma weaponry: +4
MQ targetting sensor: +1 (No sensor= -2)
Evasive manoevres: +2 (Requires thrusters)
Cruiser: -2
Frigate: -1
Corvette:0

Damage:
Cruiser class weaponry: + 4
Depends on rail gun ammo: +X
Cruiser class medium armor: +6
armor damage: -2

Spoiler: More answers to questions (click to show/hide)

Forgot that.

...ebbor, how common are AIs? Common enough that it's completely normal for an old cruise ship to have one and a sign of our poverty that we don't, rarer than gold, somewhere in between?

Common enough that everyone knows they exist, but incredibly rare. This is probably the first one you see in your lives.

Do note that there's a difference between an AGI (artificial general intelligence) and just a generic AI. The first has a personality, and is pretty much equivalent to humans, while the second is an automated quasi intelligent program which can improve itself.

Here some short descriptions on how the weaponry you posses works, and it's usefullness.

Standard sidearm: (whatever you want it to be.)
(Upgraded) Laser blasters: Simple and cheap weaponry. Uses a chemical reaction to create a somewhat powerfull laser. Batteries last long and can be recharged. Sadly, due to cheap lenses and a fairly weak laser, these are neither accurate nor particulary deadly.
Heavy welder: Modified welding instrument. Uses a heavy, but portable chemical power source, to create a glob of plasma and ionized air and often some metal, which it slings at the target. Reloading is fairly complicated, and has to happen after every shot. Quite deadly, especially when used in pressurized environements.
Laser welder: Stronger version of the laser blaster, normally used for welding. Uses a stronger laser and slightly more accurate lenses, making it a bit more dangerous.
Pistol: Similairy to contemporary pistols, but with modified ammuntion to work in vacuum. Note: Barrel warns up rapidly after repeated fire in vacuum.

[Aseaheru]

get the flack and upgrade it.
try to sell ONE launcher only?

[10ebbor10]

Just as a note, I didn't describe every addition to the shopping list.

[GreatWyrmGold]

And why I think that puting AI on charge on turret is quite safe even if we don't trust him.

He can do 3 dangerous things
a) use turrets to fire at us
b) don't fire turret at enemies
c) Fire at neutrals to provoke them
But all this will lead to his own death, something that he shouldn't be interested in.
He can't get control on all ship, kill us, and act on our own if turret will stay unlinked to the rest of the computer system (That mean that this turret need it's own sensors and targeting, but it's logical for an automatic turret)

Those are three very dangerous things to happen. We should at least verify sanity before thinking about that.

Think we could fix up that PPC? Or we could have a looksee at that unidentified weapon...

[Ukrainian Ranger]

500-800? Nah, we don't sell missile launchers for that....

2200 for not that useful 4 missiles is good... SELL SELL SELL

I think we bought personal weapons, right? Because we spent 100 credits somewere
________________________
I suggest to buy:

1) 10 complex electronics   
2) 25 electronics
3) Automated flak turret:
4) Weapon scrap and parts:
5) Advanced tools: ( we have some tools, but those are more metal working, that one for electronics)
6) 5 military grade hull plates

And then
a) try to upgrade that old turret with all that new electronics to make it capable to host the AI and improve it's sensors (if it will need fewer electronics then we buy, store some, but I intend it to act like AI's brains, when we will link it to the main system... Surely do not locate the core in the turret itself, only nearby)
b) Replace flak cannons of the turret with a pulse laser, one that carry a very serious punch for it's size, but goes like 2 second active\6 seconds recharging\cooling...
That makes it's ideal to hunt small targets or weak points of large ships ( like shoot in the missile, destroy it with powerful burst, find new target spending that 6 seconds that laser needs to recharge )
c) Install the turret on the place of the missing one
d) store what is left from the original flak in the cargo hold ( At the worst we may sell it to one colony..... )
e) Make it easily turnoffable by analog means, and have a crewmember responsible for that
f) If we are still paranoid, we may use some other system to run the turret until we trust the AI enough


Missile purchases:
3 -  Dragonfly anti fighter missile
4 -  Dummy missiles
3 -  Firelance missiles
1 - Emegency flare missile ( I want to setup a trap for the pirates with it)
Load all in the launchers

Also buy 10 Mosquito missile for our fighters, reload  their launchers with it. put unloaded missiles and excess mosquitoes into the cargo hold . And buy 3 emergency flares for later use\real problems

_________________________
And I think we shouldn't get that paranoid on the subject of AI,  just take some precautions,

[TopHat]

I agree with everything Ukranian Ranger just said.

[tryrar]

See what that unknown weapon is and if its anything that could be good buy it, otherwise see what needs to be done to fix the PPC and buy that. I agree with the missile purchases UK has aid, but not the turret. We can just cobble together a computer system from the electronics and have the AI run an unimportant system until we can trust it then have it become our targeting system

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I don't think that we need to buy new main weapon right now

a) We need to replace something to install something... missile launcher\laser\railgun. I don't want to sell anything of those
b) With 4.5 power we have troubles powering weapons that we  have now, no point to increase firepower without new reactors

Turret is an unimportant system. It's not main gun, and we aren't defenseless if we turn it off. And turrets sensors\targeting is independent from the main ship, that what autonomous mean
And we start trusting the AI we may link the turret with the system, doubt it's hard to do.... But I prefer to have AI in the system that is designed to be autonomous, not try to firewall it inside our main system

[GreatWyrmGold]

I don't think that we need to buy new main weapon right now

a) We need to replace something to install something... missile launcher\laser\railgun. I don't want to sell anything of those
b) With 4.5 power we have troubles powering weapons that we  have now, no point to increase firepower without new reactors

Turret is an unimportant system. It's not main gun, and we aren't defenseless if we turn it off. And turrets sensors\targeting is independent from the main ship, that what autonomous mean
And we start trusting the AI we may link the turret with the system, doubt it's hard to do.... But I prefer to have AI in the system that is designed to be autonomous, not try to firewall it inside our main system

The unknown weapon isn't a weapon, it's a potential plot point.