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Dunamisdeos

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Entity placement halps
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:50:28 pm »
Hey there, I want to mod some entities that stay put in their biomes. If i wanted to create a civilization that lives in tundra and glaciers and does not or cannot leave, what is the best way to do this?

Oh, one more thing. Attack priority. Can I set it to not only main and second, but say... third and fourth?
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2012, 03:13:35 pm »
[BIOME_SUPPORT:GLACIER:10]
[BIOME_SUPPORT:TUNDRA:10]
[START_BIOME:GLACIER]
[START_BIOME:TUNDRA]

Don't put any other biome tokens on them and they will stay there during world generation at least. They will still siege any fortress they have access too though, which is hardcoded.

Quote from: dunamisdeos on September 17, 2012, 02:50:28 pm
Oh, one more thing. Attack priority. Can I set it to not only main and second, but say... third and fourth?
No. MAIN and SECOND are your only options.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2012, 04:56:46 pm »
Interesting, is the 10 the preference for that biome?
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2012, 11:04:28 am »
It appears to be the "speed" at which the civilization moves through that terrain. That said, civilizations actually don't settle outside the START_BIOMEs. Dwarves don't settle outside the mountains despite having biome_support for other biomes, such as forests (even with forest support increased to 10), and humans thankfully do not settle on the oceans despite having a biome_support of 12 for those.

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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 12:46:07 pm »
Sweet. But my civ doesn't seem to work. It won't show up at all in worldgen.

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Here's the bit on biome. Is something wrong?
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2012, 12:57:11 pm »
You are missing [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY] (or whatever site you want them to start from). At least that's the only problem I see with what you have currently posted. If that doesn't work then it's fully possible that your problem is somewhere else.
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2012, 01:11:21 pm »
We'd need the full raws to reliably find the problem. One thing that could be it is that you misspelled the creature name in the entity raws, for example.

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You are missing [DEFAULT_SITE_TYPE:CITY] (or whatever site you want them to start from). At least that's the only problem I see with what you have currently posted. If that doesn't work then it's fully possible that your problem is somewhere else.
He has that, actually.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2012, 01:12:48 pm »
Oh, my bad. (Saw the indent and my eyes ignored the tag above it :P)

In that case your problem is somewhere else. Post the full entity and we can help you.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2012, 01:41:26 pm »
Here ya go

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they are unnamed as yet. yhey are indeed spelled icecreature in their creature raws.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2012, 01:45:47 pm »
Well the first thing that I noticed was that you have extra ':'s on the end of a bunch of tokens starting with [OUTDOOR_WOOD]. You also have a few more starting with the [WANDERER] token.

Now do your ice creatures need to eat? If so have you modded in any above-ground plants that can grow in tundras or on glaciers? In vanilla DF there are no plants that grow on tundras or glaciers, so if the only source of food that your ice creatures have is aboveground farming then they will all starve to death.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 08:58:15 pm »
=O these things make sense.

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I added [BEAST_HUNTER] Which i thought was already there. This makes them hunt animals for food, no?
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2012, 09:00:50 pm »
Quote from: dunamisdeos on September 18, 2012, 08:58:15 pm
I added [BEAST_HUNTER] Which i thought was already there. This makes them hunt animals for food, no?
I believe that [BEAST_HUNTER] more controls adventurers who go out and slay megabeasts. Besides, the old kobolds show that entities can't survive on just meat or they starve at the moment.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2012, 09:01:47 pm »
I thought that got fixed, and that,s how dwarves get huge kill lists upon immigration.
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2012, 10:05:50 pm »
They still are not showing up. is it somehow impossible to have civilization start in those locations?
Even if they cant eat etc., shouldn't ther civ at least appear. albiet briefly?
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Re: Entity placement halps
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2012, 08:04:45 am »
It might be impossible with cities, but I doubt it. There could also be something wrong in the creature raws. Mind posting those?
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