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timotheos

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Deep metal
« on: September 09, 2012, 02:45:25 pm »

I embarked on a 4x4 with 3 different biomes all of them with only deep metal. And while I haven't revealed the whole map I have just hit the magma sea and the only metal I've seen is the good blue stuff.
Does the site finder count this when listing metals present? or do I have 3 small veins of regular metal hidden on the edge of my map somewhere?
Just checking so I know whether I have to look for multiple metals next time I embark.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 02:51:36 pm »

The "metals" might be, with sufficient (bad) luck, veins of non-ore stone.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 03:09:21 pm »

I had a similar problem, but with deep metals.  I found lots of zinc, but nothing else.  Decided to give this df hack a go, and found that there are in fact some tetrahedrite veins "somewhere".

I suggest using the dfhack prospect tool to just settle the question, then you can make decisions accordingly.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2012, 06:38:32 pm by thiosk »
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2012, 08:30:36 pm »

The "metals" might be, with sufficient (bad) luck, veins of non-ore stone.
Incorrect - if the site finder says there's metal then it means there is metal ore, since other minerals don't count; if you embark on a region that says it has no metal, you'll still find plenty of other minerals and gems.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2012, 09:29:51 pm »

The "metals" might be, with sufficient (bad) luck, veins of non-ore stone.
Incorrect - if the site finder says there's metal then it means there is metal ore, since other minerals don't count; if you embark on a region that says it has no metal, you'll still find plenty of other minerals and gems.
Really? I was misinformed.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 12:43:58 am »

I haven't experienced it myself, but it is possible for that "deep metal" to be a couple of horn silver clusters in some obscure location... which would be very difficult to find without dfhack's reveal.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 05:41:39 am »

Have you dug exploratory shafts in different locations, and on different depths?
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 04:23:16 pm »

I haven't experienced it myself, but it is possible for that "deep metal" to be a couple of horn silver clusters in some obscure location... which would be very difficult to find without dfhack's reveal.
Horn silver only occurs within native silver, which occurs as large veins. Bismuthinite, on the other hand...
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2012, 03:55:02 am »

I haven't experienced it myself, but it is possible for that "deep metal" to be a couple of horn silver clusters in some obscure location... which would be very difficult to find without dfhack's reveal.
Horn silver only occurs within native silver, which occurs as large veins. Bismuthinite, on the other hand...
And native platinum..? Or is that in in veins as well?
Oh well. It's all useless to dwarves.
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Re: Deep metal
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2012, 10:10:33 am »

Native platinum shows up as veins within Magnetite and as small clusters within Olivine (though it's supposed to show up as veins within Olivine and only as small clusters within Chromite, which also occurs as veins within Olivine). Native Aluminum shows up in small clusters, but it'll never be a "deep" metal because it only occurs within igneous extrusive stone (which, by definition, is always at the surface).
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