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[Klitri]

Im such a nerd, all I thought about was pokemon while reading through this -Facepalm-
I will ~Try~ to join!

[zace]

I'm too lazy to actually do this myself (but I thought about it...) But making a large, mostly immune upperbody (with the tags to also make it a head/brain thing) (I think that's the THOUGHT tag), and making many many many appendages. Then making an interaction to ressurrect corpsepieces (say, from parts that fly off during battle) and then you don't even need [SPEED:900]. You have a billion little buggers attacking, it's enough to bother anything to death, probably... and vs itself, not sure how it'd fare... Hrm. Just an idea though, because I know there are RESSURRECT interactions.

[ThurisLord]

Even better, have the ressurrect also have transform to turn the part into the full creature, so anytime a part is removed, you get another, resulting In a creature that multiplies when anything tries to kill it.

[IndigoFenix]

Except that it would probably not be able to defeat itself, so it would be disqualified...

[random_odd_guy]

I made a dragon that is the size of russia, with adamantine scales:

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[CREATURE:SUPER_DRAGON]
[DESCRIPTION:A gigantic reptilian creature.  It is magical and can breath fire.  These monsters can live for thousands of years.]
[NAME:super dragon:super dragons:super draconic]
[CASTE_NAME:super dragon:super dragons:super draconic]
[CREATURE_TILE:'D'][COLOR:2:0:0]
[PETVALUE:10000]
[PET_EXOTIC]
[TRAINABLE]
[MOUNT_EXOTIC]
[BIOME:ANY_LAND]
[FREQUENCY:5]
[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Breath fire]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
[CDI:FLOW:DRAGONFIRE]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:50]
[FIREIMMUNE_SUPER][FLIER]
[FANCIFUL]
[MEGABEAST][DIFFICULTY:10]
[ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:10000:100000]
[SPHERE:FIRE]
[SPHERE:WEALTH]
[CURIOUSBEAST_ITEM]
[NOFEAR][NOEXERT]
[BUILDINGDESTROYER:2]
[LIKES_FIGHTING]
[GRASSTRAMPLE:50]
[BONECARN]
[PREFSTRING:terrible majesty]
[BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2WINGS:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:4TOES_FQ_REG:4TOES_RQ_REG:MOUTH:TONGUE:GENERIC_TEETH_WITH_LARGE_EYE_TEETH:RIBCAGE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:SKIN]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:LEATHER]
[REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:SKIN]
[REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SUPER_SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SCALE:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:CLAW:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:CLAW:CLAW_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:TOE:CLAW:FRONT]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:LEATHERY_EGG_MATERIALS]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
[PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SCALE:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:1693431254000]
[BODY_SIZE:1000:0:705596355700000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[ATTACK:BITE:CHILD_BODYPART_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD:BY_CATEGORY:TOOTH]
[ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
[ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:CLAW:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:STANCE:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:CLAW]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:claw:claws]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:3000:3500:3750:4000:4250:4500:5000]
[LAIR:SIMPLE_BURROW:100]
[HABIT_NUM:TEST_ALL]
[HABIT:COLLECT_WEALTH:100]
[NATURAL_SKILL:BITE:6]
[NATURAL_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE:6]
[NATURAL_SKILL:RANGED_COMBAT:6]
[NATURAL_SKILL:MELEE_COMBAT:6]
[NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:6]
[NATURAL_SKILL:SITUATIONAL_AWARENESS:6]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[HOMEOTHERM:10040]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[LAYS_EGGS]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
[EGG_SIZE:6100]
[CLUTCH_SIZE:1:3]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SCALE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GREEN:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:scales:PLURAL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]
[SELECT_MATERIAL:ALL]
[MULTIPLY_VALUE:15]
[COLDDAM_POINT:NONE]
[HEATDAM_POINT:NONE]
[IGNITE_POINT:NONE]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_MELTING_POINT:55000]
[IF_EXISTS_SET_BOILING_POINT:57000]
[SPEC_HEAT:30000]
Need to make sure blood and pus aren't solid at regular temperatures.
[SELECT_MATERIAL:BLOOD]
[PLUS_MATERIAL:PUS]
[MELTING_POINT:10000]

[TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SUPER_SCALE_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_NAME:scale:STP]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:ADAMANTINE]
[SCARS]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[HEALING_RATE:100]
[VASCULAR:1]
[PAIN_RECEPTORS:5]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:SCALES]

[Putnam]

Yeah, that size is DEFINITELY too big for the game. I'm pretty sure that's above max.

[random_odd_guy]

Actually, even when I put a 1 with 53 zeroes after it for something's size, I STILL didn't get an error message, so I think you underestimated the max size a tad.

[Putnam]

Actually, even when I put a 1 with 53 zeroes after it for something's size, I STILL didn't get an error message, so I think you underestimated the max size a tad.

There's no error message for exceeding the max size, I found it when it overflowed and my "gigantic" creature was getting launched across the map by badgers.

[random_odd_guy]

Actually, even when I put a 1 with 53 zeroes after it for something's size, I STILL didn't get an error message, so I think you underestimated the max size a tad.

There's no error message for exceeding the max size, I found it when it overflowed and my "gigantic" creature was getting launched across the map by badgers.

So, what is "overflow" and what is the max size?

[Putnam]

Overflow means that you went above the max value and the value looped back to a much lower, maybe even negative, one. The max size is probably around 2^32-1, or 4,294,967,295. It may also be 2^32/2-1, or 2,147,483,647.

(I never did have the exact value; I just had a large number, found it too big, dialed it back by a factor of 10, and that worked)

[IndigoFenix]

I think that size calculations are actually more complicated than simply having a max size you can't go over.  It could be that they don't actually come into account until the game tries to calculate a collision, which means that the body's shape and body part relative sizes might have an impact as well.  Sometimes supersized creatures can have even stranger effects than loop-arounds - I have accidentally made giant creatures that would cause all attacks to pass right through them, and they could not damage opponents either - but when I tried to apply the same size to other creatures (to make a 'secret of intangibility', of course), it didn't work.  Also the weight of their corpses were listed as <1...
In my experience, sizes below 35,000,000 tend to work as expected regardless of the creature's shape, but going too far over that can start causing glitchiness.  Kind of a let-down for people who want to make mountain-sized monsters.  (It is possible that the much higher estimate some modders have for max size is actually the result of multiple loop-arounds that happened to land on a reasonably high value.)

[ThurisLord]

Here is mine.

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creature_horror

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:PEARL_HORROR]
[DESCRIPTION:A horror from the bottom of an evil sea. It is huge and seems to be made of pearl.]
[NAME:pearl horror:pearl horrors:pearl horror]
[CASTE_NAME:pearl horror:pearl horrors:pearl horror]
[CREATURE_TILE:'P'][COLOR:5:15:0]
[EVIL]
[SPEED:200]
[NO_DIZZINESS][NO_SLEEP][NO_FEVERS][NOBREATHE][NOEXERT][NOFEAR][NONAUSEA][NOPAIN][NOSTUN][CANNOT_UNDEAD][NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT][NOTHOUGHT][OPPOSED_TO_LIFE]
[EXTRAVISION][MAGMA_VISION][NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST]
[NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][MEGABEAST]
[PARALYZEIMMUNE][LIKES_FIGHTING][LARGE_PREDATOR][MEANDERER]
[CAN_LEARN][CANOPENDOORS]
[PRONE_TO_RAGE:5]
[FIREIMMUNE_SUPER]
[BODY:HUMANOID_ARMLESS:4EYES:2EARS:NOSE:HUMANOID_JOINTS:5TOES:MOUTH:TAIL:SHELL:SIX_TENTACLES:TAIL_STINGER]
[TISSUE:HPEARL]
[TISSUE_NAME:pearl:pearl]
[TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:HORRORPEARL]
[MUSCULAR]
[FUNCTIONAL]
[STRUCTURAL]
[HEALING_RATE:1]
[RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
[CONNECTS]
[TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:HPEARL]
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:200000000]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:5000]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:5000]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:ANALYTICAL_ABILITY:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:FOCUS:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:CREATIVITY:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:MEMORY:5000]
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:SPATIAL_SENSE:5000]
[SKILL_RATES:500:NONE:NONE:NONE]
[NATURAL_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE:20]
[NATURAL_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE:20]
[ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:TENTACLE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:swipe:swipes]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_VELOCITY_MODIFIER:5000]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK:CLAW:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:CLAW]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:claw:claws]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_VELOCITY_MODIFIER:5000]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK:STING:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:STINGER]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:sting:stings]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:5]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_VELOCITY_MODIFIER:5000]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ITEMCORPSE:STATUE:NO_SUBTYPE:INORGANIC:HORRORPEARL]
[ITEMCORPSE_QUALITY:5]
[LAIR:SHRINE:100]
[SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:300]


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inorganic_horror

[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:HORRORPEARL]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PEARL_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:twisted pearl]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:molten twisted pearl]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:twisted pearl gas]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:7:0:1]
[BUILD_COLOR:7:0:1]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
[SPEC_HEAT:0]
[MELTING_POINT:80000]
[BOILING_POINT:90000]
[SOLID_DENSITY:20000]
[LIQUID_DENSITY:20000]
[MOLAR_MASS:63546]
[IMPACT_YIELD:7000000]
[IMPACT_FRACTURE:7000000]
[IMPACT_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[COMPRESSIVE_YIELD:7000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_FRACTURE:7000000]
[COMPRESSIVE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[TENSILE_YIELD:7000000]
[TENSILE_FRACTURE:7000000]
[TENSILE_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[TORSION_YIELD:7000000]
[TORSION_FRACTURE:7000000]
[TORSION_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[SHEAR_YIELD:7000000]
[SHEAR_FRACTURE:7000000]
[SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[BENDING_YIELD:7000000]
[BENDING_FRACTURE:7000000]
[BENDING_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:0]
[STATE_COLOR:ALL:BEIGE]
[MAX_EDGE:200000]

[GreatWyrmGold]

I think that size calculations are actually more complicated than simply having a max size you can't go over.  It could be that they don't actually come into account until the game tries to calculate a collision, which means that the body's shape and body part relative sizes might have an impact as well.  Sometimes supersized creatures can have even stranger effects than loop-arounds - I have accidentally made giant creatures that would cause all attacks to pass right through them, and they could not damage opponents either - but when I tried to apply the same size to other creatures (to make a 'secret of intangibility', of course), it didn't work.  Also the weight of their corpses were listed as <1...

Sounds like you forgot to define tissues for the critter.

[Dunamisdeos]

Give the next one freezing breath, with material set at [FIXED_TEMP:0]. Even if whatever it's fighting is inorganic, It'll be frozen solid.

[Putnam]

The latest version of Lord English makes creatures 8 times his size fly away upon hitting them.