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[Spiderking50]

So this weapon trap isn't defected in the normal jammed way, but exactly the opposite: it kills whatever walks over it. I've lost tons of animals to it and the only reason i don't lose dwarf is because they have [trapavoid]. Anyone ever hear of this?

[Broseph Stalin]

No but it is fucking awesome! Build a shrine to this device, remove TRAPAVOID from dwarves and sacrafice children to this blessed gift from Armok. 

[GreatWyrmGold]

Is it webbed? Is there some syndromey stuff on it? Is there something nearby that would stun things?

[JTTCOTE1]

Is it webbed? Is there some syndromey stuff on it? Is there something nearby that would stun things?

All of that would kill dwarves too, except maybe a specific syndrome.
I presume you mean tame animals, right?

[GreatWyrmGold]

Webs don't kill, and neither does stunning. Syndromes might or might not.

[Biag]

Even [TRAPAVOID] creatures can fall victim to traps if they end up on them stunned, webbed, or asleep.

What kind of animals were they, and how tame? Maybe the trap is recognizing them as hostile for some reason.

[Urist Da Vinci]

So this weapon trap isn't defected in the normal jammed way, but exactly the opposite: it kills whatever walks over it. I've lost tons of animals to it and the only reason i don't lose dwarf is because they have [trapavoid]. Anyone ever hear of this?

It's worth pointing out that dwarves don't have trapavoid in vanilla, so what kind of modding are you using?

[Spiderking50]

Your civilized creatures gain a trap avoid perk during fortress mode. The only one building traps on your map is you, you dwarves don't trigger them. Regardless of having the tag or not, the effect is the same: trap immunity. Its catching completely domesticated animals that came with migrants and descendants of original animals that embarked with my dwarves. My dwarves just walk right over it, probably thinking "Wow that looks like a masterwork quality mechanism with 10 masterful obsidian clubs swords all in one weapon trap. I should walk my imported pet gorilla through it to admire it's glory!"

 Its laid out like this:

XttX
XttX
XtTX
XttX
XttX

The t's are normal traps. The T is the swirling black hole of death that nothing without an alcohol addiction and an intense love of geology can escape from. The X's are open space. Is basically a long dodge pit. Gobo's charge down it, and either A) get pulverized by the traps or B) dodge into a 27z level drop. There is buzzard blood and the blood of my poor farm stock. Nothing webby or syndromish.

[Tirion]

Sounds like a fainting-inducing contact syndrome somewhere further down the path- everyone walks in it, but only dwarfs have shoes and socks to protect them from it. How are the combat reports from your massacred livestock?

[Doctor Blood]

Quick Question, how do I imprison or murder a dwarf? I got one that is in a strange mood and I want to imprison him until he gets better and if he doesn't then I want him to be... Taken Care of... Quickly and Quietly... Any Help Is Appreciated

[Doctor Blood]

Sorry about that, wrong topic...

[GreatWyrmGold]

Spiderking, if tame animals are triggering it dwarves probably would be too. You mentioned adding TRAPAVOID in he OP, so pardon our misunderstanding. Triron's theory sounds plausible.
Doctor Blood: Try locking doors.

[Urist Da Vinci]

... Its catching completely domesticated animals that came with migrants and descendants of original animals that embarked with my dwarves. My dwarves just walk right over it, probably thinking "Wow that looks like a masterwork quality mechanism with 10 masterful obsidian clubs swords all in one weapon trap. I should walk my imported pet gorilla through it to admire it's glory!"...

So are the animals walking on their own and following a dwarf, or are the animals being dragged around by the dwarf (i.e. being hauled to a cage or a pasture zone)?

Here are modified obsidian raw values with realistic SHEAR properties that turn the "clubs" back into proper swords, at least for unarmored enemies:

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[INORGANIC:OBSIDIAN]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_TEMPLATE]
[MELTING_POINT:13600]
[BOILING_POINT:16000]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:obsidian][DISPLAY_COLOR:0:7:1][TILE:177][LAVA]
[MAX_EDGE:20000]
[SHEAR_YIELD:35000] 35 MPa
  [SHEAR_FRACTURE:35000]
  [SHEAR_STRAIN_AT_YIELD:114] shear modulus 30.7 GPa
[IGNEOUS_EXTRUSIVE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:3]
[IS_STONE]
MELTING_POINT:11818 <-- I think this is from the data collected by the contributors above and is more accurate than the numbers we're using, but we're using a high melting point until environmental lava effects are further along.
[SOLID_DENSITY:2650]See also the bug report that I made: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=5346

[Spiderking50]

Thanks for the raws, but i actually prefer them as a blunt object, they make fantastic dodge pit fodder. There are no combat reports for the animals, which is strange. There is also no syndrome bits as far as i can tell. Animals have been killed coming from both directions and have no weird substances on their corpses or on the trap. If the syndrome was on the ground or something like that, they'd die on any trap that it kicked in on, not one specific one regardless of which direction they're going. The animals are walking of their own volition.

[i2amroy]

I'd say save a copy of your world so you can upload it for bug purposes, and then just disassemble and re-assemble your trap to see if it fixes the problem.