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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #60 on: September 04, 2012, 01:37:41 pm »

Apparently you can use IPA to learn how to speak backwards.
Surely it's easier to just listen to yourself backwards.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #61 on: September 04, 2012, 01:41:54 pm »

Apparently you can use IPA to learn how to speak backwards.
?oot ti keaps ot woh wonk ot evah I won dna, (!deedni ,ylf eht no) sdrawkcab lleps ot woh gninrael tneps I emit taht lla dna troffe taht lla ...oS

(Yes, I edited that, but only to add the parenthesised bit... And I inserted it, in situ, from {<- that end} to  {-> that end} in the same spirit...  ...dren a m'I ,seY)
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2012, 01:45:07 pm »

.sdnah yuor on emit hcum oot evah dna derob [i/]yllear era uoy fi ydren os toN
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2012, 01:59:59 pm »

A man after our own heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYUuspQ6BY.
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Re: Mispronounciation
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2012, 02:04:49 pm »

You know, it would be easier to tell how the "mispronunciations" sound if you were to use the International Phonetic Alphabet. English is just too dialectally fragmented for anyone to effectively transcribe their pronunciation without it.

[jʌ nou ɪt wʊd bi 'i.zi.jɚ tə tɛɫ hau ðə ˌmɪs.pɹən.ʌn.si.'je.ʃunz saund ɪf ju wər tə juz ði ˌɪn.tɚ.'næ.ʃən.əɫ fɐn.'ɛt.ɪk 'æɫ.fɐ.bɛt]
['ɪŋ.glɪʃ ɪz dʒʌst tu daɪ.jə.'lɛk.tɫ̩.i fɹæg.'mɛn.təd fɔ˞ 'ɛn.i.wɐn tu ɛf.'ek.tɪv.ly tɹæn.'skɹaɪb ðɛɝ pɹən.ˌʌn.si.'je.ʃun wɪθaut ɪt]
Except nobody knows how to read that shit. I'm pretty sure your last paragraph there is the first one in said IPA, but it could just as easily be Greek.

It is in fact my first paragraph as written in my dialect, using IPA. If you follow the link, the page has audio which tells you pretty close to what each of those symbols mean.

If you have any knowledge of Welsh, that "Ll" (double-L) is the "L" version of the above "K" one.  But Welsh also have "Ch", not too dissimilar from that of the various Celtic linguistic relations.  (And both of these, and some other digraphs like "ng"[1] and "dd"[2] and "ff"[3], technically being single characters in their own right within the Welsh dictionary.)
These are called fricatives, by the way. English has labiodental[1] /f/ and /v/, dental[2] /θ/ and /ð/ (thin and this), alveolar[3] /s/ and /z/, post-alveolar[4] /ʃ/ and /ʒ/ (shop and pleasure), and glottal[5] /h/.

Scottish and German <ch> are velar[6] /x/, and welsh <ll> is alveolar lateral[7] /ɬ/.

[1] articulated with the lower lip and the upper teeth
[2] articulated with the tongue against the upper teeth
[3] articulated with the tongue against or close to the superior alveolar ridge
[4] articulated with the tongue near or touching the back of the alveolar ridge
[5] articulated with the glottis
[6] articulated with the back part of the tongue against the velum
[7] an alveolar consonant whose airstream proceeds along the sides of the tongue, but is blocked by the tongue from going through the middle of the mouth
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2012, 02:09:28 pm »

A man after our own heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAYUuspQ6BY.
But they do teach their children how to speak and often in ways with at least an equal heritage as Received Pronunciation.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2012, 02:19:13 pm »

.sdnah yuor on emit hcum oot evah dna derob [i/]yllear era uoy fi ydren os toN
(.suoivbo semoceb esnopser fo deeps eht nehW)  .noitacilppa tahc evil a ni enod s'ti nehw evisserpmi erom hcum s'tI

.gnikaeps yllacitehtsea ,dnour yaw 'thgir' eht ,pukram dna ,stekcarb eht tup uoy ,em ekil ,fi dedoiva tahwemos eb nac siht revewoH  .txet your ssecorp ot tpircs ro ytilitu emos gnisu fo desucca teg you sselnU

(.t'nsi ti ,hguoht em tsurT  .oot taht gniod eb duolc tpircs a os ,kO)

?hcum liareDerail much?  Sorry!yrroS
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2012, 05:46:14 pm »

Here, start practicing on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbZr-SfuO0
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Re: Mispronounciation
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2012, 06:04:26 pm »

It's pronunciation. That aside, the Scots word loch. The ch is pronounced as in the German ich. Not pronounced like lock.
Not according to the Cambridge English Dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/loch?q=loch

I'm going to support Hubris in the importance of learning IPA. It's hardly a daunting task, and makes learning pronunciation a breeze.
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Re: Mispronounciation
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2012, 06:06:45 pm »

It's pronunciation. That aside, the Scots word loch. The ch is pronounced as in the German ich. Not pronounced like lock.
Not according to the Cambridge English Dictionary:
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/loch?q=loch

I'm going to support Hubris in the importance of learning IPA. It's hardly a daunting task, and makes learning pronunciation a breeze.
As a Scot, it's flat out wrong.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2012, 12:23:52 am »

Pronouncing Eggs as Aggs annoys me greatly.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2012, 12:48:54 am »

That was MSH, not MZ.
Or is it?
Your time travel comment immediately after reminded me of Karkat yelling at future/past karkat for some reason. If this quote counts as necroing Im really sorry D=
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2012, 05:16:59 am »

Considering that the post before yours was made within a half an hour, I'm going to say no, there was no necro. Carry on.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2012, 05:50:48 am »

I pronounce Innate as "Inn-It", instead of "In Eight".

It sucks.
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Re: Mispronunciation
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2012, 07:41:01 am »

Well, that's a funny way of saying it, innit?
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