I'm an omnivore. I eat a lot of meat, most likely too much meat when keeping in mind what it does to the world ecology, but I still want the animals to be treated with respect and care. They should live as good a life as is possible before they are killed, and be killed in the least painful way possible. They're living, thinking, and feeling beings, just like us, and though they may be dumber, that doesn't make them worthless and without rights.
So yeah, I would never eat (for example) your average American meat; it's and many, many other countries' meat businesses are fucking travesties. A mockery of everything humane and civil in civilisation.
I was briefly loking at Facebook, And I noticed a advertisement for einstein not eating meat. Curious, I looked it over. It's standard anti-animal cruelty video, a little graphic, but nothing I couldn't handle. But Then I read over a few of the comments, And I realized how far DF players are from the mainstream:
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Its things like this that make me want to show more people DF to get their reactions. 
DF animals are not alive. Neither are the dwarves and the humans. There is a big difference between fantasy and reality.
The amount of damage you'd do, and animals you'd kill, in converting enough land to feed all of humanity on plants alone, not to mention effects from alien species etc, would probably do fuckloads of ecological damage as well, in addition to overfishing, and as we wouldn't have a reason to keep nearly so many farm animals probably a lot less of them as well.
Right now, a lot of fertile land is used up to feed our overproduction of livestock. Plant > Livestock > Humans requires much, much more land than Plant > Humans does.
Technically humans do have one physical advantage over most animals (I've heard that some African tribes would walk various animals to death, defeating them with pure stamina), but other than that very minor quibble I entirely agree with the honey badger guy.
Not walk, run
We have a better cooling system than most other animals. With our shiny naked skin. Ftw.
Well, not run, exactly. Traditional hunting is mostly done through alternating slow jogs, walking, and a few sprints when necessary. The point is to keep the animal from feeling safe and getting rest, not to keep up with it or keep it at full speed all the time. We don't need to, as long as it is moving at a reasonable fast pace it will exhaust itself in short time.
Anyways, there's other reasons we keep animals, and would you want to give up sources of cheap fertilizer and such?
I'm not an expert but...
I don't think manure has been a primary source of fertilzer in the developed world in several generations. Also, according to things i've read it's more expensive than innorganic fertilizers.
Though it is probably more sustainable long term among other things.
I'd be surprised if cow manure could be considered expensive by any means.
Nope. It's expensive in comparison to synthesized fertiliser. Organic manure also doesn't come with all the nutrients plants need to grow well, which means you still have to buy synthetic shit or additives. On the other hand, I don't think you can use inorganic fertiliser on it's own either (as far as I can remember, at least), but it's not of equal measure.
Eating fruit is, of course, a lot less ethical than eating vegetables. When you eat a piece of fruit, you keep the seeds inside from ever being able to grow up! It's even worse when you eat nuts, you monster. That's like eating babies, except it's vegan!
Humans need to be cruel to survive. Deal with it, and find ways you can reduce the cruelty and not just shunt it off onto something you don't find as cute.
Not at all. Fruit tastes good because it wants to get eaten (yes, literally - if it didn't, it would taste bitter and poisonous, like many parts plants doesn't want us to eat does). You see, getting eaten
is part of the reproduction cycle. The seeds aren't broken down in our stomachs, and shat out in a steaming pile of manure. In short;
1. Fruit Tastes Good
2. Fruit Gets Eaten
3. Seed Survives
4. Seed Is Expelled
5. Seed Gets Free Fertilizer To Grow In!
It's all evolution, man. It's all evolutionary beneficial for all of us. Or well, it used to be, before toilets and sewers. But that is why you stand up to the Man and shit outside instead! It's ethical
and exciting fun for the whole family!
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