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[Little]

On gangs, I continue to support the ideas posed in this thread.

I clicked the link and realized I wrote that thread four years ago 

[Grimith]

Looks like the Firemen/Firefighter shenanigans and the Enemy/Trap wharrgarbl I reported in my last post are mutually exclusive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OfP824gPM

At 3:02 in this video, I go to the Nuclear Power Plant for the "first time," just one in-game day after I repelled a siege from Conservative automatons, and it once again displayed wharrgarbl. This siege, however, actually worked properly.

It's worth noting that I managed to get the map to display properly after I closed down the site and it reopened; perhaps it was refreshing the map? *shrug* At any rate, I thought I'd share that tidbit just in case.

[Jboy2000000]

Oh Grimith, Im sure this is going to be your glitchiest LGWI yet. Only about 15 episodes in and two glitches already. If its not your glitchiest Ill be surprised.

[usr_share]

The game, apart from the five usual policy levels, also has a sixth one, labeled C++ in dev/lawrefrence.cpp and actually used when the country has been Reaganified as a result of the Arch-Conservative Amendment.

Sadly, one can't see the text of these policies, as the losing (or winning) screen doesn't support using the arrow keys to switch between tabs, like the regular "Liberal Agenda" screen.

Shouldn't this be fixed?

[KA101]

Looks like the Firemen/Firefighter shenanigans and the Enemy/Trap wharrgarbl I reported in my last post are mutually exclusive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2OfP824gPM

At 3:02 in this video, I go to the Nuclear Power Plant for the "first time," just one in-game day after I repelled a siege from Conservative automatons, and it once again displayed wharrgarbl. This siege, however, actually worked properly.

It's worth noting that I managed to get the map to display properly after I closed down the site and it reopened; perhaps it was refreshing the map? *shrug* At any rate, I thought I'd share that tidbit just in case.

Yeah, that's a map refresh.  In 463 at least, you visit a site after either game start (to be clear: if you've never visited the site, so this is your first time this game) or it Closes Down, it'll refresh the map.  Since that was that file's first visit, I'm not sure why it imported the safehouse stuff (should be a clean mapgen/csv load) but I'm glad the refresh fixed it.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Yeah, that's a map refresh.  In 463 at least, you visit a site after either game start (to be clear: if you've never visited the site, so this is your first time this game) or it Closes Down, it'll refresh the map.  Since that was that file's first visit, I'm not sure why it imported the safehouse stuff (should be a clean mapgen/csv load) but I'm glad the refresh fixed it.

The game uses the same block of memory for storing map data, it just clears it between missions. My theory is that the code for the new style maps doesn't properly clear siege stuff away, so you're seeing residual bits of the previous map. If that's the case, you should be able to go to any other location between the siege and the nuclear plant, and those things would go away just the same as if you restarted.

[tahujdt]

I'm not sure if this would work or require major reprogramming, but would it be possible to add a save option, like choosing how often to autosave, or manual saving? That would open it up for savescumming, sure, but it would also make it run faster.

[seth--]

When you have a meeting with somebody you want to recruit you don't see where he is working. If you press C to offer him to join the LCS, you can see it but you can't go back.

Can we have that information near to the stats in the meeting screen?

[KA101]

Yeah, that's a map refresh.  In 463 at least, you visit a site after either game start (to be clear: if you've never visited the site, so this is your first time this game) or it Closes Down, it'll refresh the map.  Since that was that file's first visit, I'm not sure why it imported the safehouse stuff (should be a clean mapgen/csv load) but I'm glad the refresh fixed it.

The game uses the same block of memory for storing map data, it just clears it between missions. My theory is that the code for the new style maps doesn't properly clear siege stuff away, so you're seeing residual bits of the previous map. If that's the case, you should be able to go to any other location between the siege and the nuclear plant, and those things would go away just the same as if you restarted.

Barring the Bank (or if you're using those maps I posted, the Courthouse or a CCS base).  Good to know, in any event.

[seth--]

This adds a "sort by type" key to the "review equipment" screen

Code: [Select]

--- src/common/equipment.cpp (revision 638)
+++ src/common/equipment.cpp (working copy)
@@ -585,6 +585,7 @@
 {
    int p = 0;
    int l = 0;
+   bool sortbytype = false;
    vector<Item *> temploot;
    map<Item *,locationst *> temploot2;
    for(l=0;l<location.size();l++)
@@ -658,11 +659,20 @@
       set_color(COLOR_WHITE,COLOR_BLACK,0);
       move(22,0);
       addstr("Press a Letter to assign a base.  Press a Number to select a base.");
+     
       move(23,0);
-      addstr("Moving equipment takes no time.");
+      if(sortbytype)
+      {
+         addstr("T to sort by location.");
+      }
+      else
+      {
+         addstr("T to sort by type.");
+      }
+     
       if(temploot.size()>19)
       {
-         move(23,40);
+         move(23,34);
          addpagestr();
       }
       if(temploc.size()>9)
@@ -685,7 +695,32 @@
       if(c==','&&page_loc>0)page_loc--;
       //PAGE DOWN
       if(c=='.'&&(page_loc+1)*9<temploc.size())page_loc++;
-
+     
+      //Toggle sorting method
+      if(c=='t')
+      {
+         sortbytype = !sortbytype;
+         if(sortbytype)
+         {
+            sort(temploot.begin(),temploot.end(),Item::sort_compare);
+         }
+         else
+         {   
+            //Sort by location
+            temploot.clear();
+            for(l=0;l<location.size();l++)
+               {
+                  for(int l2=0;l2<location[l]->loot.size();l2++)
+                  {
+                     if (!location[l]->siege.siege)
+                     {
+                        temploot.push_back(location[l]->loot[l2]);
+                     }
+                  }
+               }
+         }
+      }
+     
       if(c>='a'&&c<='s')
       {
          int p=page_loot*19+(int)(c-'a');


edit:

When you have a meeting with somebody you want to recruit you don't see where he is working. If you press C to offer him to join the LCS, you can see it but you can't go back.

Can we have that information near to the stats in the meeting screen?

Code: [Select]

--- src/daily/recruit.cpp   (revision 638)
+++ src/daily/recruit.cpp   (working copy)
@@ -128,9 +128,13 @@
    printfunds(0,1,"Money: ");
 
    printcreatureinfo(r.recruit,r.level);
-   makedelimiter(8,0);
+   move(8,0);
+   set_color(COLOR_WHITE,COLOR_BLACK,0);
+   addstr("Location: ");
+   addstr(location[r.recruit->worklocation]->name);
+   makedelimiter(9,0);
 
-   move(10,0);
+   move(11,0);
    addstr(r.recruit->name);
    switch(r.eagerness())
    {
@@ -152,19 +156,19 @@
       }
       break;
    }
-   move(11,0);
+   move(12,0);
    addstr("How should ");
    addstr(pool[p]->name);
    addstr(" approach the situation?");
 
-   move(13,0);
+   move(14,0);
    if(ledger.get_funds()<50)set_color(COLOR_BLACK,COLOR_BLACK,1);
    addstr("A - Spend $50 on props and a book for them to keep afterward.");
    set_color(COLOR_WHITE,COLOR_BLACK,0);
-   move(14,0);
+   move(15,0);
    addstr("B - Just casually chat with them and discuss politics.");
   
-   move(15,0);
+   move(16,0);
    if(subordinatesleft(*pool[p]) && r.eagerness()>=4)
    {
       addstr("C - Offer to let ");
@@ -188,10 +192,10 @@
       set_color(COLOR_WHITE,COLOR_BLACK,0);
    }
 
-   move(16,0);
+   move(17,0);
    addstr("D - Break off the meetings.");
 
-   int y=18;
+   int y=19;
   
 
    do

[tahujdt]

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Alright, I'll try to compile some of these ideas together, and add mine as well.

Conservative Crime Squad

The CCS should be changed to first emerge in a mirror image to that of the LCS, when the following conditions are all met:

-Public Opinion 60% or higher Liberal.
-Elite Liberal President
-Near-Liberal Majority on the Supreme Court
-Liberal or Elite Liberal House and Senate
-Issues have become 10% Elite Liberal, 40% Liberal, or 75% Moderate

The CCS should have their ability to effect public opinion supercharged to equal that of the LCS. This makes the CCS a legitimate threat to a liberal public opinion, for as we all know the works of the LCS can make a Nightmare Mode population over 90% Elite Liberal in a couple of months.

The CCS will attract Rogues to their cause. Rogues are members of organizations that have suffered or been eliminated due to the fulfillment of the Liberal Agenda: Rogue Death Squad Members, Rogue Police Gang Units, Rogue Agents, Rogue Firemen, and the like.

Disillusionment
As the country comes closer to Liberalization, some of your liberals might begin to have....doubts about the validity of the LCS in a world so close to their ideal. The conditions for winning the game should be taken, and the percentage of those you have fulfilled applied to a Public Juice Count. At the game's start, the Public Juice Count will be in the negatives and not affect any Liberals but those who also maintain negative juice. However, once the percentage to completion raises, so will the Juice Count. When it reaches positive numbers, any Liberals who have a juice count lesser than it will occasionally approach their direct superior and point out one of the LCS's immoral actions (Using guns, killing people, rampages, "enlightenment", publishing someone's private information, flooding the city bay with nuclear waste even after nuclear power is banned, obstructing the justice system, etc). These are only "unlocked" if you've ever actually committed them, giving bonuses to things such as pacifist runs, as the LCS is more in-line with its worldview. For example:

You've told us all that we're working to eliminate guns from society and make people safe, but we shoot people to prove our point! How is this ever supposed to work!?

Success: Look, sometimes we have to make compromises for the greater good. The conservatives will shoot at us even if we don't shoot back, and if we die this has all been for nothing.
-OR-
Failure: Don't rock the boat, man. Just do as you're told.

Success: (Doubting Liberal) is satisfied for now.
-OR-
Failure: (Doubting Liberal) walks out of the safehouse in disgust

If it succeeds, the Liberal's juice is raised to the Public Juice Count's current location. If it fails, they abandon the LCS. However, the larger the disparity between the liberal's juice and the public's juice, the harder it is to convince them. At the end of the game, the Public Juice Count will be 700 Juice. This also applies to sleepers, so that would assist in making them less powerful. Finally, it can also effect the current leader of the LCS should they not have a high enough juice count, but without a superior what happens to them is different. The leader, filled with doubts, goes off on their own to soul search. The leader is transported to a random site. If the leader can commit a Liberal Action while on the site, their crisis is resolved and their juice is raised to the correct level. If they cannot, they abandon the LCS and the same events occur that do when a leader dies.

Re-education/Rehabilitation
It wouldn't be one of my LCS suggestion posts without.....a New Issue!

Prisoner Rights
C+: Prisoners have no rights whatsoever, subject to constant conservative brainwashing and abuse. (Effect: Prison is a Re-education Camp that functions the same as the one that exists now, with the addition of a check for damage every month to the already existing Juice check. Liberals who suffer too many checks in succession and don't have First Aid skill may die.)
C: Prisoners are regularly deprived of human rights and used as cheap labor for industry. (Effect: Prison is a Prison Factory that has a lesser drain on your Liberal's Heart and Juice than the Re-Education Camp. A less likely to succeed damage check is also in place.)
M: Prisoners have some guaranteed rights, but are generally not encouraged to change themselves. (Effect: Prison is Prison. Just prison, exactly like the one we have in the game now.)
L: Prisoners have the same rights as anyone else, but rehabilitory programs are limited in scope. (Effect: Prison is a Progressivist Prison. Liberals suffer a juice loss check each month equal to the Re-education Camp's.....except instead of being resisted by high Heart, it's resisted by high Wisdom. If your Liberal's juice reaches zero, they abandon the LCS. So yeah, that'll be a problem for you.)
L+: Prisoners are given comprehensive therapy and education during their term, allowing rehabilitation into happy and peaceful citizens. (Effect: Prison is a Rehabilitation Center that has a Wisdom-resisted Juice check that subtracts 300 Juice if failed. If it reaches zero Juice, the Liberal leaves the LCS.)

This makes prison a heavy threat to the LCS in Liberal law.

Health Care
C+: Only the top income bracket can afford health care, and medicine is restricted to those who can pay for it by law. (Effect: University Hospital is extremely expensive, around 10000$ per patient, but has a 100% heal rate. The Free Clinic is a Suicide Clinic, and the only reason Liberals can be sent there is to die.)
C: Health care is very expensive and virtually no compassion exists on the subject. (Effect: University Hospital is expensive, about 5000$ per patient, and has a 90% treatment rate. The Free Clinic is overcrowded by those who cannot afford real health care, and only has a 20% chance of providing treatment. If the liberal's injuries are immediately life threatening and this roll is failed, they die.
M: Most people cannot afford professional health care, and government programs on the subject are lacking. (Effect: University Hospital costs 1000$ per patient and has an 80% heal rate. The Free Clinic has a 30% heal rate.
L: Extensive government health care programs ensure that the vast majority of people can get treatment. (Effect: University Hospital costs 100$ per patient and has a 70% heal rate. The Free Clinic has a 40% heal rate.)
L+: Health care has been nationalized, and all people are guaranteed free treatment. (Effect: Nationalized Hospital is free and has a 50% heal rate. The Free Clinic and University Hospital no longer exist.)

Having recently read the excellent dystopian novel The Handmaid's Tale by Margret Atwood, concerning the destruction of the United States Government and its replacement with the theocratic dictatorship known as the Republic of Gilead, I feel compelled to offer some related suggestions for LCS.

In the novel, individuals who are found committing homosexual or unmanly/unwomanly acts are considered "Gender Traitors", and are executed. I think that this kind of crazy is exactly the sort of thing that could be added to the Conservative Nightmare.

A liberal would be charged with Gender Treason under circumstances relating to whether or not Gay Rights and Women's Rights are Arch-Conservative. Would, like everything else, be punished by death under Arch-Conservative Death Penalty. The addition of this would make surviving the Nightmare all the more difficult, in addition to reducing the effectiveness of Seduction (Grimith...).

Under Arch-Conservative Women's Rights
-If a Liberal wears a dress as a male or a suit as a female. (Fixing the Liberal's gender label would offset this, as it would change how they present themselves regardless of their actual gender.)
-If a Liberal has fixed their gender label to Ambiguous and has gone out in public.

Under Arch-Conservative Gay Rights
-If a Liberal attempts to seduce an individual of the same gender and fails (or is observed succeeding by someone else), with the chance of this being reported being different for Important Conservatives (100%), Conservatives (85%), Moderates (60%), Liberals (20%), and Important Liberals (5%).
-If a Liberal is in the midst of seduction, but the Conservative Sleeper Scum were feeding information to the cops the whole time!

There was also once a suggestion to have using spraypaint at Pollution L+ be a crime, Attempted Planet Murder/Earth Murder/Terracide.

These are all good ideas. Fox, not asking you to use them right now, just asking if it's possible to code those. I'm a bit rusty on C++, but I might try to build those myself.

[Shinsu117]

I was playing recently and whenever I would try to " win someone over " in the date every-time the relationship would fall apart. With all my liberals too. My seduction is at 7 points right now ( I'm near the start ) and even when I say " spend a hundred bucks " The money doesn't get discounted. Am I the only one having problems?

[tahujdt]

Who are you trying to seduce?

[Soadreqm]

Seduced some hippies as a test. Works for me. Money is spent correctly, hippies become love slaves.

[ed boy]

I was playing recently and whenever I would try to " win someone over " in the date every-time the relationship would fall apart. With all my liberals too. My seduction is at 7 points right now ( I'm near the start ) and even when I say " spend a hundred bucks " The money doesn't get discounted. Am I the only one having problems?

I have previously given the seduction mechanics here. Without spending the monwy, you need to target people with minimal wisdom.