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[Seriyu]

So, stuff we missed. Some of this is in versions that have not yet been translated. I'm mostly just summing it up from the wiki.

Spoiler: Yume nikki/.flow spoilers (click to show/hide)

Kay, so. You may remember me casually mentioning some guy with a pipe at the bar at one point. At the time I was at the opposite side of the bar, so I couldn't do anything with him. This guy is pretty awesome actually. She's a rust monster, he's got his pipe, and she's having a drink. Even psychological manifestations of fear need a day of now and then. BUT. If you take out your pipe, she stops drinking. That's because she wants you to even TRY. If you hit her with the pipe, she beats you to the punch and one shots you with her own pipe. Then you see a scene of a door closing in the darkness, and sabitsuki wakes up.

THis ties into a thing later. Or more precisely, now. The Erosion meter. This is a hidden value that represents how damaged Sabitsuki has been by the rust, which is the term I'm using for whatever disease she has. Remember the blood spots showing up? That's the result of the erosion meter. They showed up after the exploding lady room, and the blood room because those events add a TON to your erosion meter. Stuff that adds to it includes: sometimes rust monsters will add trace amounts when they catch you, the rust monster at the bar will add 15 every time you try to hit him, the devils in the final rust segment will add some when they touch you. However. In the parade ward, there is a little sabitsuki in a hospital bed in one of the rooms. She's directly effected by the erosion meter. She'll steadily get bloodier and her condition will get worse. No climax comes of it but still a neat touch.

Little sabitsuki is also in the plant world (I mentioned her there, she had plants on her), and the snow world where she's wearing a little scarf. Adorable. You have to use the whistle to see her in the snow world, before the plants take over.

Anyway. More stuff, Oreko! A girl wearing a green dress in a diving helmet. She gives you the diving helmet effect. She has an affection meter associated with her. If you talk to her with the diving helmet on, it goes up by 10. If you kill her it goes down by ten.If you talk to her normally, it goes up by 5. All this does is make the sabitsuki before the giant tank be holding hands with oreko.

 Lessee, one more thing I think, the corrupted school. Remember when I went in that thing's mouth? In version 15, there's a hallway filled with rust monsters chasing you down, and if you make it all the way through, a teacher at the end kills you with a pipe and you wake up, presumably with more erosion meter.If you get through with rust? Rust kills the teacher with a pipe.

So that's that.

Spoiler: Yume Nikki vs Flow, spoilers for both (click to show/hide)

SO what did I think of them? Well, I dunno if it's fair to compare because besides from some design similarities, they're actually very different in feel. I feel like Yume nikki was probably just going for crazy dream stuff, and it's great at that, and honestly the ending doesn't do a whole lot for me, aside from making me depressed. A lot of the stuff in there is more wonderous, with the only thing that every single person seems to freak out about being uboa. Some people think Kyuu kyuu kun's adorable, the toringen are just girls, blahblah. What it does is great, but the ending, while sad, doesn't really add a whole lot. It seems to be there because there has to be an ending. To me at least. It's hard to formulate ideas that seem right because there are very few "starting points" because there's nothing there that you know solidly besides the name, and even then, not really. This can be either a positive point, or a negative point, but I personally didn't like it.

.Flow, so, flow is a bit more structured, and is going more for horror, and it does it well. There's clearly something wrong in the real world, and it's being reflected by her dreams. Where yume nikki was the, let's say starting point, .flow seems to be the finishing line, and honestly if you made the two characters the same, I feel like they'd hook up pretty well, aside from moving to a new house and getting a computer, since that'd involve going outside. The story is slightly more structured, which makes theories a bit easier to formulate, and generally gives you a starting point, which I enjoy a lot. And the true ending, with rust, provides a satisfying conclusion, that if you've solved a few basic parts of the puzzle, makes sense, even if it wasn't the one you wanted to see. The way the enviroment changes due to things in the dream again reinforces the idea that something is very wrong, and it would've been a great addition to yume nikki, although I dunno what they could've added. Maybe the room getting more disheveled?

So basically, I guess, if you like horror, go with .flow. It's superior in a lot of ways, I'd mark it as a successor easily. The student surpasses the master and all that. If you cannot stand scary things, yume nikki is still great, and significantly "nicer".

Spoiler: And the final bit, final theorycrafting. Spoilers for .flow. Lotta text too, but I'm sure you theorycrafting types will love it! I put a lot of thought into this. (click to show/hide)

.Flow basically seems to be a girl that has three options, none of which she likes. She can either stay locked inside, and get killed by the disease, Go back to the hospital that she's been held at for so long (remember, there's a lot of hospital imagery and she's shown in a hospital bed, on top of the fact that she's coughing up blood which is a definite "I need to go to the hospital" thing.), or go outside and risk getting caught and brought back, or infecting other people.

Which brings up a point, I don't think Sabitsuki is antisocial. She just has a contagious disease that could kill hundreds of people, and she doesn't want to do that. How is it contagious? In the dream hospital areas, there are dead/infected girls alllllll over. It's possible this is some kind of pandemic that the hospital is trying to keep under control, if not cure.

Which brings us to the hospital. I don't really think it's really negative, if sabitsuki has been there most of her life, it's natural she'd hold a resentment towards it, and it's likely she is biased against the hospital, we're in her head, remember. I'm not saying it's impossible, but It's nnot a solid point to me.

Black haired girls...... not sure. I'm thinking they're the antithesis to the disease, in some manner. Not so sure it's her mom anymore. Maybe the medicine, or multiple medicines that she was no doubt taking while in the hospital? Maybe a doctor/nurse she actually didn't hate?

Mouth imagery, meatcave, meat men. Mouth imagery and meat men, totally the disease. They spread out of the mouth area when rust is unleashed, implying that the disease has gotten worse and is spreading. Mouth imagery may be where the infection started? Maybe ate something bad? Maybe it just infects the mouth and makes it sensitive/bleed profusely/thins the skin, and eventually spreads to other parts of the body and kills the host?

Meat cave, probably the inside of sabitsuki, at least from her viewpoint. If you're thinking about a disease for so long, it's reasonable you'd eventually start thinking about what the hell is going on in there, and she probably just thought about it in terms she could understand.

School, probably just your average traumatic school experiences, I don't think there's anything huge there, maybe the basement is where she got the disease to begin with? Someone else that had it, a body, who knows? There IS a giant mouth down there, which would fit with the mouth being disease imagery.

Rust, the disease, she's a demon under the sabitsuki disguise after all. Maybe the final stages specifically, eventually killing her/taking control of her(i'll get to this later) and the ending portraying that.

The empty boxes, the giant mouth is probably the point of infection, the giant sabitsuki, I honestly have no idea at all, maybe a representation of her keeping herself locked away from the outside world to prevent the disease from spreading? THe giant exploded woman past the empty blood room..... Not sure. Maybe what she's thinking is going to happen to her? It'd make for a nice past present future thing.

Oreko, likely an imaginary friend from her childhood, I can't imagine she didn't think one up in the hospital.

Rust monsters, early form of the disease? Maybe what the body she saw looked like? Just a fear of the disease, making her want to wake up and make sure she's still kicking?

Gas mask maid, a nurse, Dunno why she's in a maid outfit. Japan? Haw. Iunno though, seriously. But she's a nurse, the gas mask is to prevent disease infection, it may be spreaded through the air (ignore that gas masks don't work like that, I don't expect a random japanese artist guy to know how gas masks work and you shouldn't either, besides, dramatic flair.)

Ehhh, I feel like I'm forgetting something. But on to the endings anyway.

Ending one, killing herself, realizing that's the quick way out of this without infecting anyone, she probably knows she'll hit the ground, the hospital will quarantine it, and that'll be that, and she won't have to lock herself up anymore.

Ending two, her unlocking the door to her house, letting the gas mask maid in and giving herself back up to the hospital. Maybe there's a cure? Probably the happiest ending.

True ending, this is gonna get complicated and also probably sound a little cooky. But the game is a tad anime, with the chainsaw maid gas mask people, so it's probably taking some creative liberties. Remember, you take the powers, give them up, then go into flow while you're in flow. That means whenever you wake up, you're probably going back to the dreamlike state (maybe because sabit is in a coma from the disease?)and when you go into flow you're going deeper. After the three main fears, weaknesses of sabitsuki are revealed, the door opens, the disease is allowed in and it kills whatever is left of sabitsuki's conciousness. It leaves, exits the door, and gains complete control, attacks the nurse, the nurse fights back (with a chainsaw? Iunno, the only thing I can think of is anime plot, so just ignore that part I guess? Bwahah.), cutting off the legs, imobilizing the now rust controlled sabitsuki, then takes her back to the hospital, either because she didn't know it had taken control, or to experiement on it and hopefully find a cure that doesn't kill children by the droves. The Shriek and red film reappearance at the end implies that, duh, this is probably a bad idea, who knows what it can do now that it has a body.

So yeah, I greatly enjoyed flow! And I originally thought I'd take a break for a little bit then work on getting yume 2kki to work, but Iunno I kinda feel up to it. Maybe in the next few days I'll try, I'm on windows 7 though so that makes things complicated, since it doesn't like installing language packs in a way that makes it work. If any of you have pointers on getting it to work, please, PLEASE let me know.

Also I'd live to hear opinions on my theories if you're the type, and have finished the game, it's the best part of all this junk. I know I didn't touch on all of it, some of it is bound to just be "dream stuff", and as such not terribly relevant. But if there's something big you think I missed ,feel free to speak up.

[SirAaronIII]

I was there when he complained about having to write that!

[Seriyu]

I wasn't complaining, I was yelling, they're two different things.

[TSTwizby]

I agree with a lot of what you say with regards to Yume Nikki vs. .flow, but I would say that one other thing that Yume Nikki does better overall is ambiance. This isn't to say that .flow does ambiance poorly, especially in some of the more horrible areas of the game. But its obvious that more effort went into things like the hospital than into things like the cyberspacey area. Yume Nikki on the other hand has very few areas which I would say lack any kind of ambient feeling, even in the less interesting areas like the darkness world, mostly due to how it uses its music. .flow does much more with the horror-elements, and is at its strongest when it uses them, but I'd say that Yume Nikki is better at conveying the dreamlike feel of the world.

Also, while you've talked about Kyuu-Kyuu kun a lot, I'm wondering now what you think about FACE?

[Seriyu]

Thet is a very good point, and I totally overlooked FACE. I think because I saw an LP of yume nikki before I played, but I definitely remember jumping at it. I dunno if EVERYONE would find it REALLY SCARY or anything but it's definitely a case of something being at least mildly scary, and I totally overlooked it.

And I have to admit you're right about the ambience. Some areas of .flow seem just added in for the sake of having another step to get into another area.

[Seriyu]

Double post for the sake of double post, I've gotten the files together for yume 2kki installation, I'll probably do something similar as I did with .flow, so look forward to that if I can get it working. (Actually, scratch that, the page for yume 2kki game files is down, that might slow things down a tad) I'll prolly start working on it the day after tomorrow if I can get the files by then.

Also mentioning that if you're just playing through a game the first time, feel free to make a little "diary" like I did. Don't even need pictures, unless you really wanna take em. It's neat to see how people react to various events and such. If we get enough of them I might start documenting them in the OP.

[Seriyu]

Got yume 2kki installed! I'll prolly start doing the same thing I did for .flow for yume 2kki either tomorrow or today.

For people on windows 7 that want it installed, the wiki installation process is wrong, understandably, because you can change the language required for non unicode programs (which is why yume 2kki is so crazy hard to install on vista to begin with). Go to control panel, Clock Language and Region, Region and language. A window pops up, go to administrative. Language for Non Unicode programs, click "Change system LOcale", change it to japanese, and then restart. This won't make the computer display system files and such in japanese, it just tells it to use japanese whenever a file that isn't in unicode shows up. Hope it helps!

Here's hoping it doesn't crash for me too much.

[Seriyu]

Annnd here we are! Hopefully, presuming it doesn't randomly crash or anything.

Spoiler: Yume 2kki spoilers, yume nikki spoilers, maybe .flow spoilers? I doubt it. Lotta text also maybe. (click to show/hide)

Before starting I remember basic japanese and remember that 2 is ni.

Yume nikki

Yume 2kki

2=ni

Yume nikki. Aaahaaahahaahah, awesome.

Fantastic. We're off to a great start. Also the constant line breaks will stop here don't worry. In we go! As we start, lemme say the character here is Urotsuki, which means "to wander" I believe. Maybe it was different, but it was something to the same effect. but yes. It starts out with a text crawl that I can't read because it's in japanese. I will just presume that it's a gigantic 2chan meme. (It's probably not.)

So, we're in Urotsuki's room. There's a wardrobe, some pillows, a glass sliding door to theo utside, there are two giant very uhh... vertically oriented mountains outside. You also go out to the roof instead of a balcony which is a neat change. Annnd obviously we can't go outside. We can open the wardrobe however. I know what I'm finagling with when we go into dream world. There's also a TV, but it's not facing the screen. There are also a few games on the little console, the other games had this too, but none were actually very good. The one I played here was actually decent and I could see myself killing time for a few minutes. Not great but not terrible. The second one I tried crashed the game. Here's hoping that's because it's incomplete and not that this is an ill portent of things to come. I save before I fiddle more with the game system. Most of them are fairly basic, however one is a yume nikki-ish thing where you wander around in a snowy area. Odd. The rest are fairly basic and no more of them crash, whew.

Anyway ou also save your game on the computer and can change up the desktop background. I know that's kind've a "sidequest" for the game, so that's neat. The TV also displays a test pattern as is tradition. Two things in the room to mess with besides the bed and computer. So enough random junk, let's get to the actual game ey?

We land on the dream balcony after a pixel art sheep leads us into dreamland. There are lights off in the distance, surprisingly normal.Nothing particularly odd is going on in the room, although I note urotsuki apparently has yume nikki installed on her computer, that's cute. I head into the nexus. Several areas as usual. I head into...

The mushroom area! Lotta little colored blobs with feet running around. And a lot of mushrooms obviously. I wander around a bit and find a cobblestone area with a vending machine. I talk to it and it giggles eeriely, and a little face sticking it's tounge out appears on it. Huh. There's also a dude with a little cart next to it. I follow the road a bit to no avail, eventually finding a watery area. Guess it's an island? Hmm. I also find eyeball stalks and a little caged in area with several "bleeding" eyeball stalks, and a little slime that's drooling blood. Huh. I also find a bizzare purple monument. Lesse if that takes us somewhere else...

Yep! A tiled area with two doors, and a steady rythmic beat in the background. After wandering around and looking through holes to see several red patterned things, we find ourselves in a waterey area with kind've warbling noises in the background. Walking onto the little extended bit in the center of the platform scrolls the camera up so you can look at the "face" of a big watery man shaped pattern in the background. Huh. Moving on we find another area with a little face next to the door, techno-ey music in the background (I think? I'm not very good at music genres.)and no readily apparent way to move on. Back we go I guess.

We move on in the tiled area, and find a guy on the piano along with a.. fox person there? They're both fairly poorly sprited, probably intentionally. I have a chat with both. The piano guy plays a little tune for us, and the fox guy swings his hip to the right wildly. Huh. Onward. We find a pink dude in a chair, and several chairs we can sit in. Sitting in one, then pressing a button makes you hop out. Neat. The little pink guy just jumps up and down. To the north, there's a ghost and a mirror. To the left, a new area that I leave immediately, and to the south a worm looking thing that moves if you talk to the "head". The next room has a lot of spinning fires in it. We move on to a set of three colored dots. Which takes us to a road. Huh. A little machine is dancing on it but we can't speak to it. The right leads to a black and white area, the left leads to a large house that looks kind've like a face. Huh. Into the house we go.

The place is very brightly colored and there's an awesome guitar riff going on in the background. I quickly find out it's a maze as all doors lead to more hallways that look very similar. I find a balcony before I end up in a stairwell presumably leading to a basement, with a loud thumping playing. Hhhuh. In we go. It leads to a sandy area, and eventually a giant plain with telephone poles and more awesome guitar. One screen to the left leads to a giant.... kinda crab claw-ey thing sticking up into the air. Huh. Farther leads to several... what would appear to be giant jack looking things, including an opening in them we can't enter, and another way to the right which leads to more beach. All of this has been photography as a note. Walking farther reveals a giant dog looking creature roaming around in the surf, and farther still leads to a tiny thorny bush with a flag sticking out of it, and yet farther on leads to a bizzare log/dead crab thing? It's hard to say. We can't move on from there, so we walk back and end up in the house. We wander some more, passing little posts that are half green and half black that are emerging from the floor, until we find a "back door" of sorts, leading us into a yellow area with a human shadow. Huh. We head back and leave the house, since we're in familiar terrain. We head across the street to the black and white area.

It's a hotel! Huh. The first room has a strange bird looking guy in it, along with a table and some pillow things. The balcony has a cactus and some particularly shrill birds or maybe the sounds of kids playing. I dunno. We move on. The second room has three cubes with patterns on em and a little machine next to it. The cubes are red, blue and yellow, as are buttons on the machine. We hit them and it cracks the cubes. Subsequent presses do nothing. Hhhhhuh. Balcony area is same as before. To the third room! A guy in a red hat and a bizzarely colored shirt that peeps at us when we talk to him. Huh. The balcony area isn't a balcony at all, and is rather a coordinate plane with two faces with a 0 on one of their foreheads, and an infinity sign on the other. or perhaps a sideways 8. One of them has 0's zipping by their face wildly. The other has 8's. Huh. They both litterally beep if you talk to them. Heading into the back yard leads to a pale kid with no eyes. I smell horrible things from him so I move on. Leading to a new area, we promptly leave because I wanna see more of this hotel business. Of note is that room is room ... . Hmm. In the back there's also a little grate that, if you talk to, a red face appears with a little peep noise. Huh. To the second floor. The first room on the second floor has a kid with glasses on in it, and a rabbit thing bounding around. Neat. Balcony same. The next room is locked (someone with sense, finally), and the last room is a mostly bare apartment with an eye thing on a pedestal. The owner of the place is standing in front of the balcony door and appears to be a slime from dragon quest lookalike on a black box. Talking to him does nothing. Huh.

After this I look around a tad more and find two doors, but decide to duck out for now. No effects yet, but I got a new wallpaper, a white round slime thing with three hearts for eyes and a smiling mouth. Huh. Neat.

Humm.

[Lectorog]

The wallpapers are the best part of Yume 2kki. I would have several of them as my actual computer backgrounds if they weren't so small.
I thought that was an apartment building, not a hotel. I haven't checked the wiki, so I don't know which it is.
When you find the desert, don't go wandering around in it lost. I spent half an hour there, without being lost. I've also walked up and down that beach half a dozen times. Some areas can be time sinks.

[Seriyu]

Wahah, yeah might be an apartment now that you mention it, it looks a little.... nice for a hotel. And there might be wallpaper sized wallpapers here. I haven't tried either of the links though, so I could be wrong and it may just be all of the wallpaper images.

Spoiler: Yume 2kki/Yume nikki spoilers, lotta text (click to show/hide)

So here we are again. It's dark outside now. Maybe it uses the system clock? Anyway, Let's hop right into the dream world.

No monsters in the wardrobe, TV is working fine, jumping in bed again didn't do anything, computer is normal. Drat. Let's head into that book world in the nexus this time.

We end up in a dark library with several moving books on shelves. ALl of the books are in japanese. I page through a few, can't make head nor tails of any of em, obviously. One had a purple background and kind've screechy music, but again, japanese. There are also couches you can sit on. It seems to be a pretty small area with no ways out, unless there's one hidden in a book, so I leave. Let's head into the triangle.

Annnd we're in the sky. Lovely. The music is kinda plunk-ey, reminiscent of maybe a lullaby-esque song? But there's also an unsettling siren/muffled drill noise in the background of it. Time to mosey. I wander a bit and find several kind've childlike drawn creatures, little orbs with legs, a dinosaur looking thing, and several giant smiling flowers. There are also wireframe boxes littering the landscape. I find one with a door, so in we go.

The room is very dark and I can't see a thing, the music is a deep thunking noise. I back out as I presume there'll be an effect that helps me see. I wander some more until I find a snake looking scribble. Interacting with the mouth puts me on a giant black thing, with a person holding it eating whatever it is. Nooooow we're getting somewhere. Down the hatch. (please don't be another meatcave please don't be another meatcave please don't be another meatcave) We come out in an area where he's now blue and his eyes are bloodshot and protruding from his head. I guess we choked him somehow. Let's head back into his mouth. A red screen, no way to interact, just eyes and the thrroat markings. Uhh. I think the game has frozen up here, but it loads a new area, a maze made out of, you guessed it, meat.

I had to make sure that wasn't a way back. Well here goes nothin. This game seems far less threatening then flow, so I'm sure it'll be fine, but the deep, rumbling, tense music isn't helping. I'm actually kind've happy because the first update was kind've eh. But now I know the game's got some stuff in store. Here goes nothing. I manage to get to a central room with nothing in it. I take my headphones off before entering because ever since flow I've gotten some bizzare idea in my head that the game is gonna throw a screamer at me. It does not however. Let's wind back out. I find an area with an A marking in passageways that I can't get into. There have also been a lot of large open spaces. Curious.

I wander yet more and find a ghost crying blood. I head up and interact annnnddd new area! There's a lot of metal bits lying around and more ghosts. The music is a droning noise that randomly switches which side it's on. It's very disorienting and I kinda wonder how long I can keep it up. The ghosts also randomly speed up and slow down.

I eventually find what looks like a toy hammer. I interact, the game lags for a moment, and we're in another mazelike area, this time mostly grey with red cloud looking things in the background. And I was so hoping for an effect, oh well. Onward. I see from across a gap a maniacal face with two cartooney eyes facing in the wrong directions. Maybe this game's equivelent of the rust monsters or toringen? Huh. He randomly hops. I also see a blue door and a purple yelllow plant thing. I can't get to the door, but the plant is fair game. Let's jump into that thing.

Annnd we're now in an area that looks like it's made out of chocolate. A melodic kind've harp-ey tune plays in the background. Much nicer then meat maze, ghost land, and broken down highway maze. Periodically transparant chocolate bars fly by. This is bizzare in the best way. There's also a rabbit looking thing zipping around at high speeds, effect maybe? Doesn't seem to be chasing me so probably not harmful. Catching him teleports me into a white room. And I so enjoyed chocolate land. No music. Nothing good ever lasts I suppose. NO way back either. There's a bed and a dresser. And a door. Lesseee....

Can't interact with anything in the room, let's move on to the door. We appear to be in a white school. Several doors in the hallway, maybe we were in the nurse's room? Hmm. Maybe Urotsuki ate too much chocolate. I think we can all sympathize. More exploration reveals all the rooms are alike, and there's a waiting room. Doctor's office I guess. The too much chocolate theory still stands. We walk into the room in the waiting room and enter a white hallway with several holes in the floor. Kind've "trippy" music here, is all I can say to describe it. I realize it's very concise and clear in a game like yume 2kki. The "holes" end up to just be another ground texture as the hallway breaks apart at the end and reveals itself as another giant paint blob esque landscape. We walk to the left for what is entirely too long and see the building has come back together. Into the door aaaannnddd...

We're in a small room with a green alligator thing. THe music is also really video game-y. Sounds like something you'd hear at an arcade. We talk to mr. alligator... No response. There's a hole in the floor to the left, and we jump in. We're now in a vast grassy field with some yellow gigantic flowers. We came out of a keyhole. The music has kind've chiming noises in it. It's nice. We head into another keyhole and find another alligator man. We head to the door and interact, it does nothing but hold us in place for a while. I get the feeling an audio cue is supposed to play here, maybe it's not finished or my installation has some audio issues or something. Who knows. We jump out the window annnndddd.... end up in a giant fild with wildly rotating small flowers, dancing to the video gamey music it seems. also more alligator spheres. We came out of a key this time!  There's a giant clock in the center of the area, does nothing. We leave as it's a pretty small area. Let's take a look around the meadow some more. We roam and find two small buildings forming a "gate" formation like in flow, nothing happens when we go through though. We also find a dark spot of the grass in a circle of flowers. Lessee. Walking in turns the orange grass blue and the flowers into closed tulips. Neat. More wanderings, lessee if this changed the alligator spheres. Now there are also giant flies flying around. I saw them on the ground before, but they didn't do anything. We head into an alligator sphere house...

Nobody's in it and the music's gone. The door is unopenable as usual. More wanderings! We find a small pair of flowers and discover there are giant tulip buds too. Also another clock. This takes us back to the nexus and I'm inclined to think that means it's a good time to stop. Until next time!

New wallpapers:
A rabbit lady eating chocolate with a chocolate background.
A detailed view of one of the alligator spheres, presumably. They have four legs, two eyes, and are green, which is really all I can presume about them.
A mushroom composed of smaller mushrooms, is all I can say. I think I got this one last time, I didn't realize there was a page changer, wahaha.
The piano guy and his pet fox... guy... thing. They're actually pretty nice looking in the art. I was nervous for nothing. Probably got this from interacting with them.
A picture of presumably urotsuki, it just looks like a girl, in front of a white door. There seems to be light coming out and she's wincing away.
A picture of the two head people on the coordinate plane in that one guy's house in the apartment/hotel.
Urotsuki lying in bed, looking kind've down. As in emotionally, not littterally down.
A lady with red eyes, with some random symbols in the background, including a book, a moon with a star in it, they look like the symbols the nexus uses for worlds. Maybe urotsuki again?
Annnnd finally urotsuki in the snow. Maybe it's the girl in that one game? Who knows.

I set my wallpaper to the two coordinate plane people because it's kinda funny lookin.

Neat.

[Lectorog]

The wiki hasn't been loading for me lately, but I have both of the wallpaper sets. They're 1600x1200 repaintings of some of the game's wallpapers (one set from normal wallpapers, one from the ones you see on your dream computer). My favorites aren't there, but there are some good ones. Too bad my desktop is 1920x1080. Edit: Using one as my background anyway.

I think I'll restart Yume 2kki soon. I've ended up revisiting the same areas and making no progress, but if I start over I might be inspired to accidentally find new things.
Edit: Restarted, almost immediately found new areas.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Found a blue twitchy thing in Hell, took me to a neighborhood-like area. From there I went through somewhere short, through a landscape desert of faces and silhouettes, up through a space ship to a red desert, walked around there for a while, it changed to being full of alien spaceships, found a portal/hole, now in an area full of staircases, wandered for a while until getting to a properly-colored desert. From there I went to the demon girl's room near the theatre, after which nothing new.

[Seriyu]

Wahaha, that's the ticket. 

Spoiler: moar yume 2kki/yume nikki spoilers, many text (click to show/hide)

Into dreams we go. The TV has a blue smear with a black kind've ^_^ face with rounded eyes in it, annnd I notice the computer clock is 6:66. Lovely.

We head into tetris block world. Sure enough, lego blocks are everywhere. There's also a tiled floor that acts as a sliding puzzle. There's also some cheese on a plate, interact and she eats some, shrinks. Eat more, grows back up. Go aaaaask aliiiiiice. Climbing up a ladder opposite to the cheese takes us to the second floor. Samegeneral theme, also reveals that Urotsuki has seperate "going up a ladder" sprites. Nice touch. Second floor is a genuine ice floor puzzle. We head into the door on the righta fter a bit of sliding about and find a woman in a black hat and dress. I'm having flashbacks to that one NES adventure game. "OH NO!!! AXE CUT YOU!!!!" That one. I forget the name. Anyway, we wander up and interact. Nothing. We go around her and notice there's a tower off to the right with an evil version of her there. IE she has black skin and red eyes. And is moving. We head upstairs further. Into this door aaannnnnd we find.....

Urotsuki. Hhhuh. I walk to the side, sure enough she mirrors my movements. I notice the footsteps are off kilter. Stopping for a minute, I notice the footsteps are not my own. THis freaks me out enough to make me back out of the room. Flow has made me into a wuss. We'll be back, don't worry.  Up another floor back in the tower reveals a bridge over to evil tower with a little sphere that won't let us pass. Looks a little bit like a haro actually. We move up to the top and find the sun. THe music in this tower as a side note is a single chime that goes off every few seconds. It's kind've nice if a tad lonely sounding. Let's go to the sun, however. There is nothing wrong with this plan.

Alas, we can't reach it. We head back down and pass by the Urotsuki room. You know what? I'm not letting this game get the better of me. I'm finding out what's up. In I go. I walk straight at Urotsuki. Annnnd go through her. We are now on the other side of the tower! Let's avoid creepy lady for now. We head up and end up seeing the moon. There's a little bench too. Let's try to go to the moon. Alas, the bench doesn't give us adequate height, she just sits there and looks at the moon. It's a pretty nice little scene for a game with very little narrative content. I screenshot it for memories. Also to see if I can't get it nice looking at my desktop resolution.

I head down and realize I have to pass by the freaky lady to get to the door at the bottom. Here goes nothin. I walk down and talk to it as I go by and hear a loud CRUNCH noise and am teleported into a lego maze. I head left and find an E on the floor. Stepping on it, I get huge and can't leave the room. I step on it a few more times, until I turn into urotsuki with wings. Again, and I become a can with feet. We head to the right before I get myself stuck in a horrible position. The maze has a basic little tune for music. Moving to the right we find a bridge over a red and black cloudy sky. Moving more, a hole in the wall. Let's go take a look. Nothing. Maybe I'm not the right height. I head back to the E and fiddle with it until I become urotsuki with bat wings. Lesse now. Nothing.

I guess that's a toringen equivelent. Curious. I wake up and go back to sleep immediately. THis time we go to the moon and star symbol because whynot. We are immediately greeted with a cheery little tune, with some thumping and Iunno kinda xylaphoney background music. It immediately becomes distorted and slows down. Creepy. It seems to correspond to where I am on the map. Well lesse what we can find. It seems like it gets slower the farther away I am from the door. I find a rainbow on a cloud. Let's see where this gets us.

Our first effect! The rainbow effect, makes us rainbow colors. Actually looks nice. At any rate that's all I could find in there. We head out and into the white marble stone thing. Looks like it has writing on it. We head in annnndd...

We're in a woodland area floating above a sky background. The music is kinda plunky harp sounding music. Not bad. I wander around and find a white block with a door in it, going in, it's a dark hallway lined by windows. No music. We leave and head to the right, finding what looks like green hair wandering around. Nothin from interacting.

We head into the door nearby. We're in a land of hourglasses with... bloody noses? They also have eyes. Hmmm. I also realize we're back in chocolate land when a chocolate bar sails by. Woooo, I liked this place. I wander and find where I left earlier and also a bizzare kind've board game piece looking dude with two uneven eyes. Nothing from interacting. I find a black door similar to the white door from earlier and head in. I also realize these doors are not doors, but chocolate bars. Cute.

We end up in a dark tiled area. There's a curtain to the left, we head through and we're on a stage looking thing? Hmm. There's a stairway down into the audiance and an usher roaming around. I interact with her and...

The screen glows white and takes us to a land where it's snowing and there are also giant.... organ pipes sticking up in the background? Hmm. I head to the right and find a pale usher lady. I interact and the organ pipes play a little tune. No place to go from here so I leave, leading us back to the theater. I go into the back of the audience area and leave that way. For some reason I've got a bad feeling about this place. We find a vending machine, but this one doesn't giggle at us. Alas, we have no money. Onward. We find a four way intersection. Three normal looking doors and a giant horned door to the north. Let's go into that one why not.

We end up in a bleepy bloopy musical land. The place we came out of looks kind'e sinister, two tiny "eye holes" on the building, along with the giant horned door. We wander. We find a big splotch of color, each color makes a different noise. We wander around on it until we find the "face". There's a glowing red dot on the forehead, so I'd imagine the splotch forms a person of indian descent. We walk onto the dot.

WOAH, a flashing cross legged for armed indian fella moves forward and backword while.... cannabis whirls around in the background. I missed you, bizzare random rave scenes. Back to wandering in the colorful world. We find a portal back to the nexus. We'll go a biiiit farther, lesseeee.

Why not the purple hexagon thing. It seems suitably creepy. It's been surprisingly relaxing today, we can't have that.

Black pavement looking stuff for the floor, and a droning noise as the background. We're off to a good start. I start to ramble. After wandering through a maze-ish area, I find myself in a wide open area. Now we're getting somewhere. After a long time a wandering I find a black slime fella with red eyes. He also has a magnificent moustache. He can't be bad, can he?

He is. Another loud crunch and we're in an area we can't get out of. I wake up.

New Wallpapers:
A background with kind've fluffy sheep on it. Cute.
A background with a circle of four armed indian folk with cannabis leaves around them.
What looks like a stitched picture of a moon and some falling stars. Looks like it might be on a bag? I know these backgrounds were made by presumably 2channers, so that's some nice work. Unfortunatly the illustrater's name is "NoName" so presumably they didn't know the guy who made it.
A circle of candles in glass jars.
An image of the two ushers wrapping their pinkies around each others... pinkies.
A more in detail image of the black clothed woman from the tower. Given it has the moon in the background it's probably the red eyed jerk one.
A picture of the first area we entered, including a prince and princess cutout I failed to mention. The little cardboard ones with the holes in the face.

I switch it to the two ushers one. It's cute.

Adorable.

[Seriyu]

Onward

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After a game of that puzzle game thing on the nintendo clone I head off to sleep annnnd the computer is blue screened. Let's see what's going on there.

A bunch of bizzare MS painted bloody/bleeding things are there. Huh. I'll be. Let's take a look around the rest of the room. The TV screen has rainbow cloud things on the top half and a kind've aqua blue on thel ower half with red specks in it. Dream world must get poor reception.

Let's go into theeeee gravestone marker today. I think it's the only surface world we haven't entered or come out of. Not that we've explored all of them terribly well, but. Brace for horrible zombies/sad music.

Annnd it's bizzare plunky music while blue beetle things dance around in a cross formation. Color me surprised. Also a giant heart design with eyes and some headstones. Also red mouth monsters dancing around in a formation I'm not sure. They could probably construed to be vagina shaped if you looked at them right. I dunno if I quite buy it myself. Also a rectangle with eyes. More headstones. We find a building with a door in it and purple heads with legs dancing around similarly. Well this is certainly not what I expected. Let's head into the building.

The door opens slowly, and the music is now very alien. There seem to be paint stains leading down the hallway. We find the end room with several purple heads with legs there, and a sculpture of a hand and a... cow head? Wrapped around each other with long "tails". Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhuh. That is a thing. We leave as there doesn't seem to be any other way out.

We head out and find a heart thing fallen over with it's mouth opened, with vomit coming out of it. Naturally in we go. We go through annnnd all the bizzare monsters vanish. Let's try to find that building again. But we cannot, as we are locked in a giant enclosure with a door on the side. It leads back to the hospital. Bout time to take another look around here I think. I walk down the hallway with all the doors in it. Eventually I reach the end and start systematically checking the room. Second door I enter, there's a lump squirmng around underneath it. Let's see. We interact and a green stain spreads from it and it stops moving. It spreads slowly, we can't move while ti does. THis eventually takes us to a closed in room with a guy with what would appear to be an IV hooked up to his head. The stain is still there. Only one place to go from here I guess. I interact with the guy. I get the "got effect" effect, but no box to tell me what it is. I hear a loud VRRRRRNNNNN noise, and the guy dissapears. Urotsuki turns around revealing she is now holding a chainsaw. What. Well, we found the knife analogue. Chainsaw effect! Now we're getting somewhere. However we're also still stuck in the room with no way out. I fiddle around a bit, holding the action key makes her wave the chainsaw around while the noise plays. I switch out of chainsaw effect and wake up. It appears we didn't KEEP the chainsaw. What a tease.

Going back to the blue screenedcomputer, new dream wallpapere. Looks like broken glass with varying colors. TV isss the same. Let's take another dive. Into..... let's say red gear world. Also I lied, there are a few more areas we haven't explored on the surface. The entire area is red, little hand things sticking out of the ground. The background noise is a heartbeat that slowly speeds up and then promptly stops. It starts again after a few seconds. Let's get wanderin.

Wandering reveals it is very small, there doesn't seem to be anything in there either. Let's head to the last (I tihnk) world, the red streetlamp. No music. Just varying sizes of streetlamp and a giant eye looking thing in the background. Shades of flow.

After extensive wandering, nothing much. Didn't find anything. Maybe I'm just out of it today, I wake up and head to the computer.

New Wallpapers:
A guy with a bandaged head with green fluid all over him. PRobably from the whole green blob bed thing.

Annnd that's all. Hmm. Only one effect still, I'll clearly have to work for them this time around.

Eww.

[Seriyu]

And yet more.

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More blue computer. Lesse.

Black and white, kind've abstract-ey looking stuff. Annnd the TV.... basically the same pattern as yesterdays. The top is all red and cloudy and the bottom is white and black. Let's go buzz around in the dream world. To the polygonal triangle thing! I'm gonna go see that guy we choked a while back again.

But wait. We find what looks like a rectangle shaped like a door would be shaped. Let's take a peek. Inside is a short hallway with a black ball thing with a stem at the end of it. Huh. Let's say hello. We interact annnnd the bulb lights up. I guess it's a lamp? Huh. We walk back out and now there's an outline wandering around outside. We talk annnnd new effect! Not an outline effect as you'd imagine. Now her hair is shorter, and she has a shirt on that has a B on it. Huh. "Boy" effect? Iunno, prolly not. Curious. Holding the interact key for a second or two makes you sit down, ala yume nikki/flow.

In our continued search for the snake, we find a box with a door in it. Another hallway, at the end there's a crudely drawn "house" thing? It seems to have a door in it. Let's see.

We come out in a new area, no music (the corridors for both instances had no music either), the "house" we came out of is yellow now and the inside is red. Black floor. Let's seeeee. Before we can go anywhere, a disk with a red eye shows up and takes us back to the polygon world. It giggles when it catches us. Hmmmmm. Let's come back there later. If there's a broom analogue I can probably play keepaway long enough to explore the area. Onward to that snake thing.

We finally find our boy! We head in, annnnd he's already choked. Hmm. We leave via the left side annnnd we enter an area with blood stains on the floor. The music is a low droning that gets almost painfully loud periodically before decreasing down again. We immediately find a room with a UFO on the roof of it. Let's hope happier things are in there. Inside a red..... thing with a giant eye is there, along with saturn. We talk to the red thing. Nothin. We head to saturn.

Inside there are colored stick men walking around. A short loop plays. Let's take a look around. To the right, a bizzare machine. Doesn't seem to do much. To the left, a console which we can interact with. I select the "apple" option. The other two were spaceship and Question Mark.  It seemed like the safest option to be honest. Now the exit has closed and we're speeding through space.

After a few seconds, we've landed. Let's see what apple world has for us.

It is... very colorful. There are also masks on the walls. More exploration. We walk through the southern door and find a giant wolf head and an old wolman in a red hood head on the walls. Whut. Little red riding hood's grandma and the wolf I guess? Huh. We head outside annnd sure enough we were in a house with a red roof and a chimmeny. Newsflash, little red riding hood takes place on an alien planet. The music here is a high pitched tone.

We explore more. We find an apple hanging on a tree with a segment out of it's trunk. The top seems to be staying up well enough anyway. Onward down the road. We reach a new area with black haired... things roaming around. Along with little hovering blue spheres with stuff in them. The black haired things seem to have pacifiers? Maybe I'm imagining that. We head north annnd there's the apple! But it's surrounded by white things with v mouths and white filled circles for eyes marching in a circle around it. There's a slot I might be able to get into? But I somehow think they won't take kindly to it and it's constantly moving. Do we go for the apple or continue down the road? Hmm.

Apple. I picked apple and I will carry through with the mission. I manage to get through annnnd apple does nothing. I move up north and find a rope tied to a pipe. Maybe I can climb up it?

Nope. Interacting unties the rope, you then hear a "dropping" noise, and a girl scream. We just trapped someone in a well. Sorry about that lady. Back down we go. We can't find a way out as the circle eyed guys are now blocking the exit. We wake up and go back to sleep. Where to now? Hmmm. Let's go to.... mushroom world. Way back in the beginning.

New desktop also, a blue cloudy blocky pattern. Looks nice.

Mushroom area. We wander a bit, find a lake with little green eye stalk dudes sticking out of it. Also an area with... cracked red "pulsing" ground. Hmm. That doesn't look good. We find a way in there and roam a bit, andfind a slime near the center of it. We interact annnnd...

this teleports us into an enclosure down to the south that we saw back in the first update. I walk around a bit and walk between the two giant eyestalks annnnd we're in a black and white version of mushroom area with red paths. Some of the terrain also has a red outline Grown mushrooms are around and drooling blood, and there's a giant eyestalk mushroom thing in the background, rather then a solid "ground" tileset. There are paths of red stuff though. We roam to the south and find the a guy with devil wings. Hey guy, how ya doin.

He just bloops at us. No effect. Nice guy for having bat wings though. More exploration finds us another slime, along with the little blobby guys with feet with red and black eyes. Hmm. Let's talk to the slime.

We end up on a path that looks like it's made of white straw. Looks kind've like spores in a sense I guess? Hmm. It's also "Snowing". The music is kind've wobbly piano, it actually sounds really good. We wander down a very large path with circular things with flower patterns in them. They came in a variety of colors and remind me of the large vertical tribal mask things in yume nikki on that one way path. We eventually end up in a large wide open area, same graphical theme/tileset. On the right there's a kind've frankenstien lookin dude with grey skin. Walking into his area makes him transparent and walkthroughable. We also seem to scare him away. To the left there's another area. More white straw lookin stuff. Now there are large plants and mushrooms on it. Hmm. There are hands sticking out of the blackness here, and white balloon things. Definitely seems more like spores to me now. We find a blue skinned dude draped in a cloth with large hair. We interact... Nothin. Later we find things that look like giant blue eggs with black markings on them. And mushrooms that have "opened up" to reveal a little stamen thing? Hmm. Also a building. We enter...

And we get pulled up into a grey light thing with the balloon things roaming around in it. We reach the top annnnddd.... there's a pattern in the background, abstract as usual, and a tissue wedged in a crack of the building. We grab it and new effect! It turns our head into a tissue box. We can grab a tissue out and leave it on the ground when you hold down the interact button. We wake up there, however as I've been at this for an hour.

Two new effects, wonderful.

New Wallpapers:
A picture of urotsuki with various chunks mixed around. Huh.
A picture of the bottom half of the boy effect, with an exclamation point where the crotch is. His/Her hands are there. Uhhh... Hmm.
A picture of a bunch of armless legless things with red dots for eyes.
Urotsuki with a tissue box for a head. Delightful.


Annnd the return of THEORYCRAFTING

First of all, I think this project is a collaboration, so theories will likely kinda be all over the place as I doubt they all had the exact same view of Urotsuki and her backstory.

I know there are a lot of suggestions that Urotsuki is a transvestite and while the boy effect is a pretty high card in that hand I'm still not quite ready to believe it. I'd imagine dreaming you are of the opposite gender does happen from time to time. (I don't remember my dreams, personally, so uhhh yeah.)

Hospital, I doubt she went there for anything serious. Maybe was just visiting or maybe she just had an upset stomach or whatever. I think the kid there, she may have felt she inadvertantly killed him somehow, maybe the green stain event points towards what that was (accidentally unplugging his IV maybe? Maybe she just saw him have a complication that ultimately cost his life? Largely depends on who he was to her and what age she went. An adult would likely understand that she didn't cause the complication that killed him, but as a kid maybe.)

That's really all I've got for now though.

Lovely.

[Lectorog]

Yeah, Yume 2kki is kind of all over the place. I don't think any theories will really work. It doesn't have a coherent theme like Yume Nikki and .flow. (Though I wouldn't say they have coherent themes; just relatively.)