Also, Jim, I forgot to answer, yeah, I tend to freak out sometimes whether my alignment is because my lack of experience. Let some day pass and I will be more sure about what to do/what not to do.
I have no doubt that this is true, but it strikes me as more than a little self-preservationist.
"Nah, don't lynch me
today, I'll be good and town looking in a few days."
Asking people to give you slack probably won't work.
You're really convinced I'm scum, don't you? You are seeking for 'evilness' where's nowhere to be found. I understand, I'm a suspect, you are a suspect, everybody is. But I think you are wasting your time with me, if those are your reasons to vote me. You saw my vulnerability and now you are trying to take advantage of it. I'm not saying this because it's me the one being voted, I'd think this if you were doing it to anybody else. It's easy to scum pick on the once-more vulnerable townie.
Nerjin, it's D1, you are scum. You saw how a townie started to dig his tomb and, once he noticed that, tried to fix it. Won't you try to get him lynched because of his first mistakes?
This is not how you defend yourself.
You have to do more than just say the people voting you are wrong. It won't change people's minds if that's all you say. You have to explain how they are wrong. You have to address the reasons that people are voting you and ably demonstrate that those reasons are false or incorrect. Otherwise, you just let what people say about you stand with no rebuttal. They are, in effect, controlling the opinion about you. This is not a good situation to be in, as you can probably imagine.
Also, if Nerjin is scum, why aren't you voting him? Afraid of OMGUSing?
Is there any reason why all your questions directed towards me are from the scum perspective?
Because I think you're scum, Jim, and I want our noobly town to think of you that way. I know this is BM, but my priority is still winning. And honestly? I don't like your role and the idea of the "playing IC". I think it unfairly swamps the noob town with a whole extra dynamic they shouldn't have to deal with, namely a super-experienced player that will have absolutely no difficulty in shoving opinion around with his reputation alone. How is that fair? How can that be trusted? I think it's just a carrot to get IC's to participate.
If you think I'm scum, then vote for me.
Come on come on come on come on. I want you to do it, I want you to do it. Come on come on come on come on, I want you to do it. Vote me! Vote me! Come on, vote me!Or maybe you should try a different approach and not suspect people because of their experience. Because here's the hard facts: even if it weren't completely fallacious to suspect somebody simply for their experience (it has no bearing on alignment given at the beginning of the game), the moment you step out of the comfort zone of the Beginner's Mafias,
everyone is experienced. There's no significant skill gap between me or Shakerag or any of the other players on this board, so you are teaching yourself the absolute shittiest of lessens by suspecting experienced players before they even do anything.
And you're forgetting the purpose of the Beginner's Mafias. It's not to play a good game. It's to learn how to play. Good games make this easier. Your priority should be to learn how to play, not worry about winning or not.
Additionally, I ask you scum questions because I'd rather ask an excellent player I know is required to give me good answers and information about how he would play the scum side, since I am otherwise going to acquire exactly zero first-hand information about playing the scum side this game, until i read the scum chat and discuss the game with everyone afterward.
This answer doesn't seem honest.
If your priority is winning, then there's no good reason why you should be taking notes on how to play scum unless you are scum.
Jim, who is playing the most like bad newbie scum right now? Who is playing the most like good newbie scum right now?
I generally refuse to rate player's performance while the game is in progress, because I don't want to be discouraging.
Similarly, I don't want to give a player any reason to have an ego.
[IC's + Tiruin: If I stay in the game my participation is going to drop to probably like 0.85 high-quality posts per day due to the aforementioned IRL ass-biting. What would you prefer, that I RR like I currently am and bow out, or that I stick around with a significantly reduced level of participation?]
It's up to you if you think your level of participation will be sufficient enough.
I think I feel so safe going after Jim because I know that he can spot my true alignment, right now, from ten miles away. So if he's scum, we newbs had better start preparing for an epic battle against him or Shake. And if he's town, I have no real need to be concerned about him retaliating or eating me; he almost certainly knows my alignment already.
You have way too much confidence in this being the case.
Yuh huh, you're so town that I, in my (apparently) infinite skill, can just tell this obvious and immutable fact.
Claim that I can recognize that you're town all you want. You saying this makes me seriously think otherwise.
See, this is the dangerous line of thinking I'm talking about. Jim will still IC this game even if he's dead: there is no reason to fear lynching him based on his IC-ness and reputation alone. Don't get complacent.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Quit talking around the issue of suspecting me and lynching me and make it happen.
Looking for answers to my questions, Wrex and Jim.
Why don't you
fucking wait.
For fuck's sake, I do not have all day to play mafia.
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