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[Karkov]

Oh right, the Jorji avatar, I had forgotten about that one.

[Citizen Daniel]

New blog post is up!  Finally ironing out our process for releasing builds without known instabilities (hooray!)

Generally the current builds have far fewer issues, and we're putting in fun stuff here and there.  There's more quantification of progress (we put in a counter for number of living characters in a settlement), less pathing issues (animals *may* no longer walk through doors without opening them), and we have temporarily turned down the simulation detail on a few things while we focus on more important things (discussed in the post)

http://www.gaslampgames.com/2014/06/25/hot-testing-action-and-starvation/

[Mephansteras]

Are some foods going to get tags or whatnot that make them preferable fresh? I, for one, prefer most of my fruits raw to cooked given the choice. Not that I mind a nice fruit pie, mind you, but given the option between apple stew and fresh apples, I'd rather go with the fresh apples.

[Citizen Daniel]

We could... it would require that people have some sort of preference for their fruits that is set by either initial conditions or the events which they experience.  Currently the character attributes are much more broad than that.  I doubt we'll get to that level of depth with them in any reasonable period of time, but given many years to work on this simulation, yeah, we'd totally be into that.

[Mephansteras]

We could... it would require that people have some sort of preference for their fruits that is set by either initial conditions or the events which they experience.  Currently the character attributes are much more broad than that.  I doubt we'll get to that level of depth with them in any reasonable period of time, but given many years to work on this simulation, yeah, we'd totally be into that.

I was thinking more of a tag that gave certain raw foods equal preference with cooked foods. So someone might go for the meat stew or the bowl of fresh berries equally often, but skip on the raw meat unless really necessary.

[Niveras]

You could also mix it up, in that there is some stacking effect that characters stop receiving as much nutrition (or more simply a thought malus) if they keep eating the same kind of food, and then check for that malus whenever they go to get food (so they avoid it if they can). So they might prefer a steak or roast most of the time or five course gourmet meal, but if they keep eating even that they'll eventually go for a raw cabbage or fishperson.

[lordcooper]

You could also mix it up, in that there is some stacking effect that characters stop receiving as much nutrition (or more simply a thought malus) if they keep eating the same kind of food, and then check for that malus whenever they go to get food (so they avoid it if they can). So they might prefer a steak or roast most of the time or five course gourmet meal, but if they keep eating even that they'll eventually go for a raw cabbage or fishperson.

Or Dave.

[Graknorke]

You could also mix it up, in that there is some stacking effect that characters stop receiving as much nutrition (or more simply a thought malus) if they keep eating the same kind of food, and then check for that malus whenever they go to get food (so they avoid it if they can). So they might prefer a steak or roast most of the time or five course gourmet meal, but if they keep eating even that they'll eventually go for a raw cabbage or fishperson.

Or Dave.

I imagine that Dave's nutritional content isn't much different to that of a steak.

[choppy]

You could also mix it up, in that there is some stacking effect that characters stop receiving as much nutrition (or more simply a thought malus) if they keep eating the same kind of food, and then check for that malus whenever they go to get food (so they avoid it if they can). So they might prefer a steak or roast most of the time or five course gourmet meal, but if they keep eating even that they'll eventually go for a raw cabbage or fishperson.

Or Dave.

I imagine that Dave's nutritional content isn't much different to that of a steak.

You haven't heard of a steak named Dave? 

[Farmerbob]

We could... it would require that people have some sort of preference for their fruits that is set by either initial conditions or the events which they experience.  Currently the character attributes are much more broad than that.  I doubt we'll get to that level of depth with them in any reasonable period of time, but given many years to work on this simulation, yeah, we'd totally be into that.

If there is spoilage in the game, is it progressive, or all-or-nothing?

If spoilage is in game, then maybe a single preference could be implemented across the board, a "spoilage tolerance" or "age tolerance", if spoilage is based solely on age.

This would weight the preferences of every character more towards fresher foods, but if a character had a high spoilage tolerance, walking the extra ten paces to get the bread baked today might not be worth it in their mind.

Overseers would probably trend lower on the spoilage tolerance, and workers higher.  Happiness could be influenced by eating foods above their spoilage tolerance.  This could lead to occasional revolts by epicureans.

[Citizen Daniel]

Simulation me wants to do this.  Project management me thinks this way lies madness.  We've discussed it a few times at length, and it's currently in the "someday" pile.  I have heard rumor that the game system is extremely easy to mod, but since I don't want to be the guy that ruins the compatibility of your food rotting mod, I'm declining to comment officially.

Also there was a new blog post today!  And I have had absolutely no time to spend here right now and i feel bad, i miss the low ceilings and abundance of mushroom beer.

Edit: the link: http://www.gaslampgames.com/2014/07/02/technical-status-update-a-young-lads-message/

[Karkov]

Shame you can't stay longer, we could have chat lazily over the lava pit about how the new version comes out next week.

Victory Garden?  ... Isn't that Vector and Solifuge?  You have them doing UI work?  Tell us more!

[Mictlantecuhtli]

Vicious pummeling!

[Darkmere]

Victory gardens were home gardens that grew food to send off to soldiers. Vector/Soli and Gaslamp draw from the same well.

Also, I kinda liked the Pit of Gleebnothax...

[n9103]

Victory gardens were intended to reduce citizens' use of rationed goods back in WW 1/2.

On a side note, there's little a typical person over here could do to get anything grown in those gardens into the hands of a soldier off in war back then.