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Author Topic: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?  (Read 38939 times)

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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #225 on: September 11, 2012, 07:49:08 pm »

It's a reference to that fact Dolphins have a propensity for raping eachother and other animals.

I even think I may have possibly heard a rumor about dolphins raping a whale but I've forgotten where from. :/

Musta been one hell of a well endowed dolphin...
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #226 on: September 11, 2012, 08:23:40 pm »

It's a reference to that fact Dolphins have a propensity for raping eachother and other animals.

I even think I may have possibly heard a rumor about dolphins raping a whale but I've forgotten where from. :/

Musta been one hell of a well endowed dolphin...


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Well, we could put two and two together and write a book: "The Shit that Hans and Max Did: You Won't Believe This Shit."
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #227 on: September 11, 2012, 08:27:15 pm »

We've gone from aliens to Dolphin rape in... about three pages.

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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #228 on: September 11, 2012, 08:28:11 pm »

It's a reference to that fact Dolphins have a propensity for raping eachother and other animals.

I even think I may have possibly heard a rumor about dolphins raping a whale but I've forgotten where from. :/

Musta been one hell of a well endowed dolphin...

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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #229 on: September 11, 2012, 08:29:20 pm »

Ah, derails. Like many things on bay12, our discussions don't exactly go straight.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #230 on: September 11, 2012, 08:38:15 pm »

Ironic for a game that at it's most basic level is played in a grid of perfectly straight lines.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #231 on: September 11, 2012, 09:12:29 pm »


Oh yeah and forgot to mention that explosives underwater are incredibly devastating, the shockwave will kill everything it passes. Which happens to be much larger underwater. Think about a grenade, thrown at a person no shrapnel need hit them to kill - only the shockwave. Same with underwater.
So yeah, a few sailors with hand grenades would decimate any conceivable dolphin aggression or resistance. They would do better to sue for peace.
Only to a limited degree, and range changes kills to stunning to just annoying. Explosives are more effective yes, but a grenade is only good for a pond, and two grenades are also only good for a pond. A ocean is bigger than that, and unlike on land, it's a 3d environment, so there is more room you have to cover. It's like flak guns versus airplanes, except the dolphins flying "under the radar" are actually further from potential defensive actions.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #232 on: September 11, 2012, 09:13:51 pm »

We've got incredibly large bombs. I think we could bomb the whole ocean hard enough to kill everything down there with the shockwaves, especially with the whole 'Shockwaves through water = 3x shockwaves through air'.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #233 on: September 11, 2012, 09:59:57 pm »

3x30(the lethal radius of a frag grenade)=90.

So, any ship anchored in water deeper than 90' is in serious danger. This is good, because most bays are 30' ish. So you got dolphins at anchor. The problem is that most boats travel over water deeper than this. Dynamite will have better range. NUclear bombs even better range. There is a problem with detection though. If they hug the sea floor, they will be quite hard to pickup on sonar before they are releasing the thermite trash bombs on the underside of the ship. Also a ship weakened in such a way is at risk of sinking itself if it uses cuncussion on the dolphins. I think we might be able to build ships faster than dolphins make dolphins, but they already are experimenting with biological augmentation with their species, dolphinwhales and such... I don't think a whale is as vunerable to this as a dolphin. Also dolphins can jump out of concussive water. Dolphin ninjas... Only time will tell if our somalians are up for the challenge.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #234 on: September 11, 2012, 10:43:45 pm »

... But if you aim the entire nuclear arsenal of the human race at the ocean floor and let loose, fuck their 'avoidance'. :P

And then mop up the survivors with some chlorine dispensers, and we're all gravy baby!
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #235 on: September 11, 2012, 10:46:57 pm »

Wow, This is a impressive thread, And as self-appointed mayor of declaring war on other life-forms, I was drawn here.

So, The question is the effectiveness of explosives n Dolphins? I find this a needless solution. Water is a far better medium for biological and chemical agents then air is, and air is kinda good. On the assumption we can control it, have it "burn out" quickly enough to not wipeout the civilians, We could easily force them into a untenable position where we could be bombing them with this chemical, which I've decided to call Dolphicide, and have them suing for peace or even go for unconditional.

As for early skirmishing before the finishing of Dolphicide, First off we would need to secure ports using a ground-hugging mine to force them into the open, and some-sort of mini torpedo system to kill them off from there. Like, water bullets. Secondly, We would need to hit population centers, including bombing of their food sources, and whales.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #236 on: September 11, 2012, 10:49:27 pm »

Dolphin genocide could easily be affected with large dumps of chlorine into the water. Then again, we need the water too, so perhaps a different solution is in order.

Weaponize the sharks and octopodes.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #237 on: September 12, 2012, 12:05:16 am »

Also, we know at which frequencies the dolphins sonar thingies work. We can just emulate these and jam their sight over a rather large area.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #238 on: September 12, 2012, 01:00:47 am »

Or permanently blind them with magnified signals. Like overly bright lights, but for dolphins.
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Re: What has, and would happen, realistically, at first contact?
« Reply #239 on: September 12, 2012, 01:17:46 am »

So, any ship anchored in water deeper than 90' is in serious danger. This is good, because most bays are 30' ish. So you got dolphins at anchor. The problem is that most boats travel over water deeper than this. Dynamite will have better range. NUclear bombs even better range. There is a problem with detection though. If they hug the sea floor, they will be quite hard to pickup on sonar before they are releasing the thermite trash bombs on the underside of the ship. Also a ship weakened in such a way is at risk of sinking itself if it uses cuncussion on the dolphins. I think we might be able to build ships faster than dolphins make dolphins, but they already are experimenting with biological augmentation with their species, dolphinwhales and such... I don't think a whale is as vunerable to this as a dolphin. Also dolphins can jump out of concussive water. Dolphin ninjas... Only time will tell if our somalians are up for the challenge.
Ships don't damage easy, dolphins do. The dolphins'd have to get up close and personal with a whole lot of volatile explosives (who knows how they even manufactured it underwater?), before detonating it by the ship causing an explosion of steam likely killing the dolphin. So yeah, suicide dolphins.

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