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[Ruttiger]

For varying reasons I want to live in a conservative nightmare AFTER having lived in a Liberal paradise.  I don't see any real method of backsliding.  Maybe the CCS will allow it, but anything you've built will be destroyed by them in the ridiculous amount of time that'd take.

[Soadreqm]

Just wait. If you don't win the game first, society will slowly slide towards conservative. It might take a few years, but that's not that long if you disband.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

For varying reasons I want to live in a conservative nightmare AFTER having lived in a Liberal paradise.

I am interested in what reasons these are, so that I can enable alternate methods to do those things. Recruiting various animals is all that comes to mind for me off-hand. Are there other things?

[brainfreez]

everyone is recruitable , you don't get death penalties and most people are unarmed and easy to kill .

[celem]

well its nice to buff your leader up for one...

teach him a lot of useful stuff and then disband and backslide to nightmare to take it on with a properly trained army instead of random crackheads and hippies:p.

[Funk]

i did once try to get to 2100 by disbanding and refoming to change the society.
if you disband only a few members will come back(do the brainwashed aways come back?)but you will keep and your guns and cash you have stock piled.

[Jboy2000000]

Plus you'll get lasers after 2100. So thats a benifet.

[brainfreez]

Plus you'll get lasers after 2100. So thats a benifet.

it's actually just a regular gun with changed name .

[celem]

i did once try to get to 2100 by disbanding and refoming to change the society.
if you disband only a few members will come back(do the brainwashed aways come back?)but you will keep and your guns and cash you have stock piled.

It seems that the only ones that come back are sleepers.   I've never had liberals return to the cause, just the sleepers who pop-up over the first few months out of retirement

[brainfreez]

imagine , 100 year old goofer crime squad ...

[celem]

Yeah its a little amusing actually.  I was using a super-agi masterthief as founder.  Once I time-capsuled him for 50 years he came out with significantly less agi and more wis since he crossed into old age.

Guard dogs still couldnt bust his stealth though and he rapidly trained an elite commando squad to reliberate the country

[brainfreez]

how can you skip time ?

[Ruttiger]

Taking on the conservative machine with well armed and trained liberals is a big part of it.  It's fun to shoot things up, but that stops happening when everyone is liberal and unarmed.  The animal crew is another thing (I personally think animals should always be recruit able, like they used to be via the judge/celebrity talking routine), there's no reason to have that in a liberal paradise, which you need to be to get them.  It's mostly about the number of cons vs liberals you encounter.  Even in a conservative nightmare I end up with everyone except policy-induced spawns being liberal after just a few months.  The CCS isn't a good substitute, they are far more powerful than the police and your own squad.

[celem]

how can you skip time ?

You have to disband and start over once the country falls back into arch-conservative anarchy.  every keypress at the disbanded screen skips 1 month.  You get your founder and any sleeper contacts he/she had back when you reform, i think thats it.  You keep safehouses, items, cash etc etc.  But your founder will age.  But this isnt an issue if you spent the first revolution packing them with epic skills and teach since you can create an army extremely quickly

[EuchreJack]

The CCS isn't a good substitute, they are far more powerful than the police and your own squad.

Heh, they're certainly not more powerful than my squad!