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When Should I use candy
« on: August 26, 2012, 03:52:57 am »

It's year 2 and I have found tin, gold, and a moderate amount of blue candy. 
I have a weaponsmith and 2 armorers at low levels of expertise.

Should I start making candy weapons before it's too late and my army loves its bone greaves and wooden axes?
Should I wait for goblinite?
should I try to search for pockets of something useful?
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 04:02:44 am »

If a dwarf bonds to a useless weapon you can always sub it out.  The dwarf suffers no ill thoughts from being seperated from his beloved weapon, he also wont bond to armor other than shields.  You do this generally by seperating him from his weapon and then forbidding it and issuing a specific replacement in the equip screen.

Candy weapons are lightsabres, you could ofcourse go all out and make them now anyway but it will crush the difficulty curve when the goblins arrive and the weapons will be low quality since your dwarves have low skills.

Melting candy objects is exceptionally wastefull too, as i recall you only ever get 1 wafer back regardless of how many used in forging. 

My advice would be to strike out some exploratory mining and hope for copper or iron.  Then make some bronze or iron gear depending what you find which will skill your armorer/weaponsmith.  The issue you currently have of course is that you cant train these guys since you have no weaponsgrade metal other than candy.  Waiting for goblins as you currently stand means not engaging in melee, wood and bone may as well be naked vs an armed/armored goblin.  Traps and marksdwarves does mean that you could easily do this though and then have the goblinite to play with.

You might consider a few candy helms if you really wanna play with the stuff immediately, they are cheap in terms of wafers and prevent a lot of 1-shot-kills.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2012, 04:06:19 am by celem »
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 04:22:04 am »

Dwarves WILL bond to nonshield armour. Iron armour is fine, really.
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 06:32:53 am »

Just be careful with the candy, and don't dig too much of the stuff.

Edit: When you do dig the stuff out, leave at least a third untouched. Dwarves are moody things. One might just pop out something worth in excess of 10'000'000, you know...

If something like that happens, be sure to make lots and lots of candy weapons. Titans are also moody things.
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 06:43:11 am »

use candy when obtained
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 06:48:45 am »

But then it'll just grow into another attempted Deathgate.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 06:52:35 am »

so?
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 06:57:07 am »

You have a point.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 07:16:40 am »

But then it'll just grow into another attempted Deathgate.

Deathgate?
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2012, 07:18:39 am »

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2012, 07:19:51 am »

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(the whol damn map of the unferworld actualy)
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2012, 01:48:34 pm »

If you lack the candy, I'd say just use it for weapons/helmets/mail shirts, in that order of priority.

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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2012, 02:20:05 pm »

If you lack the candy, I'd say just use it for weapons/helmets/mail shirts, in that order of priority.
This order right here. Of course as long as you have a wafer you can technically have infinite adamantine by minting coins and then melting them down again, over and over.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2012, 03:37:23 pm »

If you lack the candy, I'd say just use it for weapons/helmets/mail shirts, in that order of priority.
This order right here. Of course as long as you have a wafer you can technically have infinite adamantine by minting coins and then melting them down again, over and over.
Yeah, I heard of this cheat, but I feel it decreases the !!fun!! of the game.
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Re: When Should I use candy
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2012, 03:56:51 pm »

If you lack the candy, I'd say just use it for weapons/helmets/mail shirts, in that order of priority.
This order right here. Of course as long as you have a wafer you can technically have infinite adamantine by minting coins and then melting them down again, over and over.
Yeah, I heard of this cheat, but I feel it decreases the !!fun!! of the game.

It's not really a cheat, since it doesn't involve modifying the game to give yourself incredible power with no effort (would would probably just be raws modding anyway). You still have to expend the time and labor to forge and melt the candy, and I don't think the exchange rate is particularly high anyway.
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