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Pantsmansoy

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Hospital Not Working
« on: August 18, 2012, 08:23:07 am »

Hey guys,

So I've had 3 of my military dorfs injured (one in a epic battle with a legendary Titan, the other two in my danger room - teach them not to equip the steel helms I've made for them...) and now they are sitting injured and unconscious in my hospital. But they're not being treated and I'm not sure why.

I made the hospital zone with no container, because I read they were bugged. However, I put a stockpile of cloth, thread, crutches and splints beside the hospital. I built a well, and then designated it as a water source and meeting place, right next to the hospital. I have a Chief Medical Dwarf (who is my only diagnostician), two bone doctors, a suturer and a surgeon or something, but they don't visit the sick dorfs.

I tried making the hospital a burrow and putting all my medical dorfs in there, but then I just got spammed with cancelled order announcements and so removed the burrow.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2012, 11:11:31 am »

Do you have buckets assigned to the hospital?
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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2012, 11:21:48 am »

(v)iew your injured dwarves and hit (z) then (h) to see their diagnosis and what kind of treatment they are waiting for. This should clue you in to what the problem is.

Anyone can be a doctor.  Skill only affects how long it takes. You may as well turn on diagnosis for many dwarves, maybe even other healthcare jobs too.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 11:22:03 am »

Wells don't actually have to be designated as a water source or a meeting place.  Dwarves will preferentially take water from a well any time it is needed.  They'll only use a backup source if all the tiles next to the well are occupied already.

In terms of "why isn't my dwarf being treated", take it one step at a time.

Step 1: is the dwarf Resting?  As in literally performing a job called "Rest".  If the dwarf isn't Resting, no medical treatment will be offered.  Ever.  If the dwarf is in the military, you may find it helpful to remove him/her from the military for the time being.  That has sometimes worked for me to switch a dwarf from "no really I'm fine it's just a flesh wound" to "Rest".

Step 2: has the dwarf been taken to a bed?  The bed doesn't even have to be in a hospital.  If there are no hospital beds, they'll take the wounded dwarf to his room, or to a dormitory, or whatever.

Step 3: (v)iew the dwarf and see what the (h)ealth screen says.  That screen has 4 or 5 tabs, so be sure to check all of them (the critical information is on the second to last tab, I think).  The critical one says what needs to be done -- "Diagnosis required", "Crutch required", "Needs suturing", etc.  The last one says what has already been done, by whom, on what date.

Step 4: are your medical dwarves idle?  Health care jobs seem to have extremely low priority, especially if your medical dwarves have any of the personality traits that don't match up well (hates helping others, procrastinates).
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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 11:23:02 am »

lemme quess, no chief medic noble
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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2012, 11:29:19 am »

I have a Chief Medical Dwarf...

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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2012, 03:38:02 pm »

get more people to diagnose and/or for the other medical jobs. They're not really high priority, so it's very possible someone is diagnosed for a surturing, but the doctor is busy in some other job and by the time someone gets to it, so much time has passed that they ask for a new diagnosis, rinse and repeat

medical care is not a high priority job
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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2012, 07:21:33 pm »

Because dwarves are callous idiots. Or, rather, they do not have intelligence or compassion simulated yet.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2012, 07:25:56 pm »

Dwarves have compassion! It's determined by their [PERSONALITY:ALTRUISM:X:Y:Z] token! (It's just that dwarves have the default amount of altruism, a quarter of them will care a lot, a quarter of them will care a little, a quarter of them will barely care, and a quarter of them won't care in the slightest if their fellow dwarves get massacred.
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2012, 07:31:41 pm »

Also, they have no simulation of compassion. Well, not in their actions. Well, not much; they'll eat, drink, and haul stone before helping a fellow dwarf not die.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2012, 12:36:14 am »

With dwarf therapist slintermind you could look up and choose a more suitable diagnoser (or two or more, you can't have too many).
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2012, 02:43:57 am »

my squad of 5 medical dwarfs do NOTHING else then medical stuff. Turn off hauling, cleaning, everything. Check if they find pleasure in helping others (VERY important!). You don't want your Hammer Lord bleed to death 'cause your CMD is gathering goblinite. Check your hospital for supplies (i - hover over hospital zone - H), enough of everything? It should work then.
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2012, 05:00:28 pm »

Thanks for all the help guys. I analyzed their help and it looks like their generally waiting for sutures, crutches, casts and they all are thirsty and have infections.

When I check the stock on my hospital zones, it has nothing. 0/XX for everything. Now, I disable containers for the zone, because I heard that it was bugged, but I definitely have crutches, tonnes of thread and cloth, etc laying about.

How do I ensure these supplies get to the hospital?

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Re: Hospital Not Working
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2012, 07:03:51 pm »

They only count if they're in containers, IIRC.

I think doctors can still use them, though.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 07:11:45 am »

They only count if they're in containers, IIRC.

I think doctors can still use them, though.
No, that's not true, containers are not necessary.

I did experience the general reluctance to perform medical jobs, though.
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