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Author Topic: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?  (Read 1676 times)

christehchris

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Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« on: August 17, 2012, 07:12:18 am »

One of my dwarves was accidentally crushed by my drawbridge and now many dwarves are miserable, very sad, stark raving mad, melancholy, throwing tantrums, etc. How do I put a halt to this? I do everything I can to make my dwarves happy. I have around 114.
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misko27

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 07:16:10 am »

One of my dwarves was accidentally crushed by my drawbridge and now many dwarves are miserable, very sad, stark raving mad, melancholy, throwing tantrums, etc. How do I put a halt to this? I do everything I can to make my dwarves happy. I have around 114.
Tantrum Spiral. Priotitize booze and coffin construction. Halt uneeded work. Send the militaru after berserkers. Try to Isolate tantrumers.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 07:17:13 am »

Welcome to the tantrum spiral.  There's not a lot you can do about these; they're a fortress-killer.  Isolate the happy ones in a sub-fort somewhere, and hope they don't join in, or isolate the tantrumming ones and wait for them to cheer up or drop dead.  Get your military ready to wipe out anyone who goes berzerk.  Or just sit back and enjoy the show, then reclaim.  Or if you have a flood-switch, pull that (and reclaim).
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FearfulJesuit

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 07:17:43 am »

Have Fun!
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christehchris

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 07:18:33 am »

Any isolation tips? I'm quite new to this game and so many dwarves is a bit hard to manage, even with dwarf therapist.
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christehchris

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 07:19:04 am »

Forgot to add, how do I bury corpses in coffins?
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misko27

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 07:22:07 am »

a burial receptacle, which is a coffin or casket. Then use [q] to  enter a menu, then allow burials. Isolating dwarves can be done by locking doors.
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christehchris

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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 07:28:40 am »

Gah, 18 dwarves went berzerk at once, killing many and causing MORE to go berzerk. I abandoned, shame.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 07:53:27 am »

If it makes you feel better, a lot of real-world settlements died in blazes of murderous glory. Granted, most were over things like who got the last of the edible stuff and not the number of their friends and family who had died, but still.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 02:14:00 pm »

I find the best way of dealing with tantrum spirals is preventing them from ever happening in the first place. After you have a huge dining room with good furniture, individual bedrooms for everyone, and high quality meals available to be eaten, I've found that I can easily lose over 50% of my population and the others don't even break the "unhappy" mark.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 11:46:20 pm »

I find the best way of dealing with tantrum spirals is preventing them from ever happening in the first place. After you have a huge dining room with good furniture, individual bedrooms for everyone, and high quality meals available to be eaten, I've found that I can easily lose over 50% of my population and the others don't even break the "unhappy" mark.

Also put metal statues EVERYWHERE, that will definitaly solve your problem. Or just masterwork stone ones.
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2012, 12:28:11 am »

I find the best way of dealing with tantrum spirals is preventing them from ever happening in the first place. After you have a huge dining room with good furniture, individual bedrooms for everyone, and high quality meals available to be eaten, I've found that I can easily lose over 50% of my population and the others don't even break the "unhappy" mark.

Also put metal statues EVERYWHERE, that will definitaly solve your problem. Or just masterwork stone ones.

Next fortress dead due to all paths to food blocked by statues.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2012, 01:25:01 am »

I find the best way of dealing with tantrum spirals is preventing them from ever happening in the first place. After you have a huge dining room with good furniture, individual bedrooms for everyone, and high quality meals available to be eaten, I've found that I can easily lose over 50% of my population and the others don't even break the "unhappy" mark.

I found this to be the case too, all in all I wish there was a way to make dwarves harder to keep happy.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2012, 02:48:35 am »

I find the best way of dealing with tantrum spirals is preventing them from ever happening in the first place. After you have a huge dining room with good furniture, individual bedrooms for everyone, and high quality meals available to be eaten, I've found that I can easily lose over 50% of my population and the others don't even break the "unhappy" mark.
I found this to be the case too, all in all I wish there was a way to make dwarves harder to keep happy.
Adding:
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[PERSONALITY:DEPRESSION:50:75:100]
[PERSONALITY:ANGER:50:75:100]
[PERSONALITY:CHEERFULNESS:0:25:50]
[PERSONALITY:ANXIETY:50:75:100]
to the dwarven creature should result in dwarves that are much more likely to go off the deep end at the turn of a hat and are much harder to keep pleased. Adding [PERSONALITY:FRIENDLINESS:50:75:100] should result in them forming friendships faster as well, meaning more suffer when some of them do die.
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Re: Powering through a literal 'Great Depression'?
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2012, 04:26:34 am »

Thanks Roy.
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