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Wrex

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Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« on: August 16, 2012, 02:46:08 pm »

Step one: make venom stockpile.
Step two: Dump the barrels the venom is in, causing the venom to be spread onto the stockpile
Step three: Make it the new weapon stockpile
Step four" Equip now envenomated weapons.


Science is required!
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2012, 02:49:31 pm »

Can one make stockpiles above grates?
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2012, 02:49:54 pm »

I think venom has to be dropped on the said weapons before use
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 03:22:20 pm »

Can one make stockpiles above grates?
Even if it was possible contaminants don't go through grates, they just get stuck on them.
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 03:23:21 pm »

Which is why those weapons are dropped in the puddle of contaminant. !!SCIENCE!! needs to be done. (It is in fact !!SCIENCE!! if you use fire snake venom)
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 03:24:52 pm »

Can one make stockpiles above grates?
Even if it was possible contaminants don't go through grates, they just get stuck on them.
This sounds useful.

Perhaps a selective well of unlife: one half is diluted with vampire blood for the peasants' well while the useful dwarves remain alive and well (and separated from the vampeasants via thick stone walls).
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 03:26:12 pm »

Hm, sounds clever...
How do you get venom barrels? Aside from buying them off of traders, of course.
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 04:09:31 pm »

Some poisonous enemies can be milked, like fire snakes.
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 04:35:18 pm »

Here's a method I've found works;

1. Acquire poisonous creature
2. Have said creature fight against creatures wielding weapons/on top of weapon stockpile
3. Collect weapons

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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2012, 04:52:41 pm »

That's better at acquiring blood than poison, in my experience.
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2012, 04:55:25 pm »

Unless it's Blood IS poison, in which case you are in luck.
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2012, 05:39:04 pm »

That's better at acquiring blood than poison, in my experience.
Still poisons stuff. Creatures with bites are messy things.

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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2012, 05:47:48 pm »

Sorry lads, but I did a fair amount of tinkering around with syndromes when they came out, so unless Toady has made some significant changes to how contaminants work lately then I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you.

Items dropped into a pool of poisonous sludge (or poisonous sludge dropped onto a pile of items) will have absolutely no effect.  The items will remain completely separate from the contaminant.

However, if someone/something is holding the item or wearing the item while crawling around in a puddle of muck, it'll stick.  I can't quite recall if this only applies to armor or if it affects weapons too, it's a long time since I did all this.


Another thing that can be done is to get a creature doused in something (I.E., they crawled through it.  Dumping/throwing a contaminant at someone will do nothing except bruise them a bit, they need to walk or crawl on a tile with a pool large enough to track onto them), kill them, and then wield the corpse as a poisoned weapon (I was poisoning wolves with a cougar corpse when I found this out).  But getting it onto an actual weapon is a really tricky affair, that I never quite managed to work out.  You could of course mod in a creature with poisonous blood, stab them a few times, and then go off and attack other people (be careful of getting sprayed though).  That'd work, but only until the next rain or dip in the pool.


I'm certain there's a way of doing it, but I've yet to work out a truly elegant solution.  And my modding and tweaking skills are seriously rusty these days.


EDIT:  Haven't tried testing Loud Whisper's example yet though, and I do know that venomous bites have been tweaked in the later releases.

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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2012, 06:02:55 pm »

What about contaminating a dwarven bathtub with your INJECT ONLY venom of choice, then get some smucks to equip the weapons, and trounce around in the bathtub for awhile?
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Re: Hypothetical weapon poisoning process
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2012, 06:18:10 pm »

Water overrides all contaminants, so far as I can recall.  As for injected syndromes, I can't remember if they worked properly with weapons, or if it specifically had to be a natural injecting attack.
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