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[Brewster]

Oh, that's right... no clue why I turned that off then. It was very helpful to have it on, though. Pierced the aquifers and have a lovely little fort going now, except for the lack of migrants. Going to be a challenge getting them in with reanimating giant thrips all over the place.

got through all the layers?! impressive.

[Stopkilling0]

Heres some info. Looks like its all doable as long as you can get to caves.
[DFHack]# prospect
Base materials:
                     SOIL : 35206
                    STONE : 936619
                  MINERAL : 23412
            FROZEN_LIQUID : 481
                    MAGMA : 17017

Liquids:
                    WATER :        10 Z:  39
                    MAGMA :     17050 Z: -23..-19

Layer materials:
               SILTY_CLAY :      7558 Z:  99..100
               SAND_WHITE :      9216 Z:  98..100
                     SILT :      9216 Z:  97..99
               SANDY_LOAM :      9216 Z:  96..98
                    SHALE :     36082 Z:  92..97
                   GNEISS :     27034 Z:  85..89
                   SCHIST :     39687 Z:  77..83
                  GRANITE :     54031 Z:  59..86
                    SLATE :     39423 Z:  63..69
                 PHYLLITE :     44053 Z:  56..72
                  DIORITE :     98090 Z:  49..78
                   GABBRO :    598219 Z: -23..93
>>> TOTAL = 971825

Ores:
                   GALENA :      5576 Z:  78..82
>>> TOTAL = 5576

Gems:
              MILK QUARTZ :     12494 Z: -23..49
                MILK OPAL :      1210 Z:  72..77
               SHELL OPAL :       969 Z:  50..56
              JASPER OPAL :       846 Z:  78..82
            OPAL_REDFLASH :       661 Z:  93..96
             BROWN ZIRCON :       590 Z:  83..85
                RHODOLITE :       330 Z:  57..59
            OPAL_BANDFIRE :       306 Z:  86..88
             GREEN ZIRCON :       305 Z:  86..88
               PRASE OPAL :       125 Z:  93..96
>>> TOTAL = 17836

Other vein stone:
>>> TOTAL = 0

Shrubs:
          BERRIES_PRICKLE :       132 Z: 100..101
                VINE_WHIP :       105 Z: 100..101
         GRASS_WHEAT_CAVE :        64 Z: -14..56
                ROOT_HIDE :        63 Z: 100..101
           GRASS_TAIL_PIG :        60 Z: -14..57
           GRASS_LONGLAND :        60 Z: 100..101
    MUSHROOM_HELMET_PLUMP :        59 Z: -14..58
       BERRIES_STRAW_WILD :        49 Z: 100..101
              BUSH_QUARRY :        42 Z:  11..58
               WEED_BLADE :        41 Z: 100..101
                POD_SWEET :        36 Z: -14..57
      MUSHROOM_CUP_DIMPLE :        31 Z: -14..25
                 WEED_RAT :        17 Z: 101
                REED_ROPE :        14 Z: 101
           BERRIES_FISHER :         7 Z: 101
>>> TOTAL = 780

Wood in trees:
                    MAPLE :        85 Z: 100..101
                TOWER_CAP :        75 Z:  11..58
                 HIGHWOOD :        70 Z: 100..101
                FUNGIWOOD :        64 Z:  11..58
                    ALDER :        63 Z: 100..101
                      OAK :        62 Z: 100..101
                 CHESTNUT :        61 Z: 100..101
                      ASH :        60 Z: 100..101
                    BIRCH :        55 Z: 100..101
                   WILLOW :        48 Z: 101
               GOBLIN_CAP :        47 Z: -14..25
                BLACK_CAP :        44 Z: -14..31
              TUNNEL_TUBE :        40 Z: -14..20
              BLOOD_THORN :        25 Z: -14..-11
               SPORE_TREE :        20 Z: -14..-12
>>> TOTAL = 819

Has aquifer               :     18432 Z:  96..99

[acetech09]

Heh. All you have is galena. And without caravans, you're sorta screwed. Granted you're fine if you decide to wall off, but that's no fun, is it?

[Noobazzah]

I'll also soon try the embark, and will definitely bring crossbows, bolt and quivers. Usually even a competent marksdwarf can single-hit-kill creatures like zombie yaks, at least to my experience.

[Neyvn]

Its already embarked with the Play Now setup. Thats it. No customising for the start. Its a 1st of Granite save file...

[Noobazzah]

Ah, okay, well then I'll just make some when/if I survive long enough.

[Brewster]

Ah, okay, well then I'll just make some when/if I survive long enough.

  That's the whole point. If you can survive long enough to do ANYTHING.
Multiple layer aquifer takes a while to breach, but any wildlife is undead that attacks you instantly. The map is too small to hide from them. You embark with no militia to speak of, except two regular dogs. The only saving grace is its freezing temperatures, which helps breaching the aquifer easier.  It's a real pain in the arse.

[Noobazzah]

I've forgotten, were there 2 axes and 1 pick or 1 axe and 2 picks in the default embark setup? I'll send the least useful member to draw the zombies attention, while my miner(s) dig a moat if possible, or just dig down and hope for the best .

[WealthyRadish]

I managed to get a successful fort, but I got a bit lucky on the first two undead waves. The first were some mosquito men, which a single axeman was able to hold off entirely, and the second was a giant grasshopper, which was easy enough for the one miner-soldier to keep dead. 3 of the most useless dwarves were put into a wrestling squad for when the giant thrips showed up... at that point, you just need to buy time to get sealed underground. I was able to chop quite a bit of wood in the meantime though, and get it underground. The survivors were the axeman, the pick soldier, the miner, and the woodcutter, while the wrestlers were obviously ripped to pieces. Anyway, I had enough wood to get through the aquifers, and from there it was all sunshine and kittens... well, neither of those, since the cats got massacred and they never saw daylight again...

[Brewster]

well done UrbanGiraffe!

[acetech09]

This embark I think is a good one to show your experience in DF... UrbanGiraffe handled it like a pro with the miner draft and quick aquifer breach.

[Bobnova]

Took another crack at it with a new initial method. Sadly the moat-of-nothing plan was foiled by the squadron of Giant Cave Swallow Corpses that attacked in the time it takes the miner to dig ~9 tiles.
The miner made a go of it and managed to sequester himself underground and cut off contact with the world above (after killing the corpse of one of the other dwarves when it smelled him and came hunting), but didn't have a food supply. An attempted raid on the surface food pile resulted in Fun, five re-dead things, and a dead miner.

[acetech09]

Took another crack at it with a new initial method. Sadly the moat-of-nothing plan was foiled by the squadron of Giant Cave Swallow Corpses that attacked in the time it takes the miner to dig ~9 tiles.
The miner made a go of it and managed to sequester himself underground and cut off contact with the world above (after killing the corpse of one of the other dwarves when it smelled him and came hunting), but didn't have a food supply. An attempted raid on the surface food pile resulted in Fun, five re-dead things, and a dead miner.

Aww. A miner should be all you need if you give him farming labor

[Bobnova]

I was hoping to grab a plump helmet or two to eat for seeds. It was close though.

Another attempt was made earlier this evening. I screwed up my plan though and wasn't able to fix it before the Giant Wild Boars stopped ignoring the dwarves and ate them.
I think the plan will work if I can luck out and get ground-only stuff for maybe five minutes of real time.
Then I just have to figure out how to get through an aquifer 2-3 times as thick as the thickest I've penetrated.
Either that, or have a mighty poor fortress.

[Brewster]

Think mainly if you succeed is by luck. Luck depending on what undead creatures spawn. Easy undead will give you at least a chance.