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[pedrito]

Release is tomorrow.

I still have a gripe with some of the new mechanism, but there's hardly enough to not consider EU4 as a succesful heir and improvement of it's predecessor.

Considering the amount of hours I've dropped on EU3 I certainly fear for my social life and job during the next weeks.

[Shooer]

Considering the amount of hours I've dropped on EU3 I certainly fear for my social life and job during the next weeks.

Play MP and there goes one of those fears.

[Culise]

Considering the amount of hours I've dropped on EU3 I certainly fear for my social life and job during the next weeks.

Play MP and there goes one of those fears.

Play MP for long enough and you won't have to worry about the other fear anymore, either.

[Felius]

Release is in a few hours. Anyone want to bet how bug infested the release version of the game will be?

[forsaken1111]

Release is in a few hours. Anyone want to bet how bug infested the release version of the game will be?

I'll go with 'very' for $500 Alex.

[Dutchling]

Release is in a few hours. Anyone want to bet how bug infested the release version of the game will be?

Ckii wasn't and EUiv won't be either.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

Yes Paradox has really upped their game with releases. They also seem to be doing a much better job as a publisher which I can only assume was due to the failures of Sword of the Stars II and Gettysburg. Add to this the rather unique system of expansions and it seems like they're really trying to turn over a new leaf and create a new image for themselves.

My only concern is that release prices as too steep if you're going to have that system of continually DLC expansions. The system does have some obvious parallels with "free2play" games and I think cheap releases would only get more people invested in the series. Combine this with the fact that because Paradox games are so niche if you wait a month or so they'll have a massive discount on amazon or steam.

[stabbymcstabstab]

Yeah the release price is a little steep but we don't know how well coded the release version will be or what DLC they add.

[Andrew425]

For the amount of hours I'm planning on playing I think it's fairly cheap.

$50 is around what i'd spend on a new game, so $40 on a game I really like sounds pretty darn fine to me.

[Wiles]

My only concern is that release prices as too steep if you're going to have that system of continually DLC expansions. The system does have some obvious parallels with "free2play" games and I think cheap releases would only get more people invested in the series. Combine this with the fact that because Paradox games are so niche if you wait a month or so they'll have a massive discount on amazon or steam.

As much as I dislike Paradox's pricing/dlc strategy I find I can't complain about it too much because of how cheap you can buy the games/dlc a while after it has been released. It's not like the days of PC gaming yore when the only place you could buy games was in a brick and mortar store and often games would still be full priced years after release. I purchased CKII and all of its dlc (pre-ToG) for 9.99. I felt like a bandit. You pay a premium if you want it right away, but you can pick it up later for great a price if you're on a tight budget.

[Chaoswizkid]

It's not like the days of PC gaming yore when the only place you could buy games was in a brick and mortar store and often games would still be full priced years after release.

Those days still exist. Look at the battlechests for Blizzard's games. The original StarCraft and Diablo 2 battlechests haven't dropped in price for more than a decade.

[MrWiggles]

It's not like the days of PC gaming yore when the only place you could buy games was in a brick and mortar store and often games would still be full priced years after release.

Those days still exist. Look at the battlechests for Blizzard's games. The original StarCraft and Diablo 2 battlechests haven't dropped in price for more than a decade.

You cant really point to the odd exception and then say that its the common law of the land.

Blizzard games are price controlled like that, because Blizzard as a brand is strong enough to do it, and they dont release enough games to where they thin out their own brand.

There was only one D2 for a very long time. As there was only One SC for a very long time.

[Chaoswizkid]

I know, I'm not fully arguing against it, I'm just saying there are still those games out there that won't drop in price. Dominions 3 was still something like $40-$60 until Dom4 was announced recently. Still, similar case to Blizzard.

Release is in a few hours. Anyone want to bet how bug infested the release version of the game will be?

A few hours? The Steam page says approx. 12...

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I know, I'm not fully arguing against it, I'm just saying there are still those games out there that won't drop in price. Dominions 3 was still something like $40-$60 until Dom4 was announced recently. Still, similar case to Blizzard.

That was due to a deal they signed, far as I remember.

[Karlito]

Yeah, Illwinter (developers of Dominions) dropped their publisher a few months back, which is why the price went down.