Jim:The existence of a role doesn't necessarily imply the existence of other roles.
"Roles" and "alignments/win conditions" are
very different things. it's odd you failed to make the distinction... or was it on purpose? But the evidence shows there is a serial killer about. Were you a serial killer, who would you have chosen to kill N1 and why?
Off the top of my head, in Bastard Paranormal 1, Bookthras claimed miller when he was a dirty fucking dopp.[...] If your point was that scum fakeclaiming miller is rare and unlikely, well, you couldn't have picked a worse person to make that point on behalf of.
Heh, yeah, the "your ass on a platter" game. That was fun. Shakerag: see below.
What tunnely attack? You're just making shit up, aren't you?
Heheh, TUNNEL TUNNEL CHUNNEL TUNNEL. Don't like being called on it, do you? you haven't voted anyone but
me for
a fucking week, for reasons like
"he's not dead yet",
"ignored my questions" (none left unanswered), and
"fuck if I know". Good job, you broken record
Groovester.
zombie urist for making a lousy argument about me chainsawing, then far behind him Shakerag for not paying attention to the thread, and then everyone who's lurking for lurking.
Really? That's all? A person who voted you for voting me, far behind a person who failed to understand the context, and then lurkers? is Shake's "not paying attention" voteworthy? Have you nothing else? Do you have any opinons about the content of Dariush/Imiknorris' discussion, my case on Hapah, Toaster's scummy vote on me, or anything else? This is awfully thin for late D2 from you...
Please restate your top three picks, with more substantial reasons/cases, and justify your vote.
Instead, he brought it up in the thread while he was about to be hanged to... fuck if I know. Make people rethink their decisions at the last minute? Tell people off? Whatever it was, it was not to get his role corrected, because if that were the actual goal he could do that easily by PM. So he brought it up purely for show, and that's scum's whole deal.
It was to enhance the dramatic death moment. Nothing really to do at the time with appealing decisions or telling people off, and sure, the point could have (and has since) been made by PM, but three minutes from day end with the flip imminent, it was merely to enhance the moment... Please either reconcile
"fuck if I know" with
"that's scum's whole deal", or demonstrate how "purely for show" is at odds with my penchant for the dramatic... maybe you were misunderstanding my intent?
Shakerag:Jim: How many instances of "scum claiming miller" can you recall?
But I don't know what point you're trying to make, since my vote on Bookthras has never been about his miller claim.
Since this came up again, I'll take the liberty for two short paragraphs on the topic (while applauding Jim for not taking the miller thing as factor for his vote):
Shakerag: your question to Jim implies that I must be town because scum wouldn't ever fakeclaim miller.
That is precisely my problem with Toaster's "first post" thing! People jump too easily from "null tell" to "town tell". No, I am not anymore townlike or scumlike for claiming it. I'm not lying, but you can't know that, so treat it as a
null tell! The main reason I objected to people doing or buying into the early kook claim thing is that others tend to "believe it" and assume the claimant is town just because he claimed it. If this worked, claiming miller would be the way to become a
confirmed townie, which would either break games, or be perfect for sufficiently cunning scum!
Barring a previous inspect, any claim of miller
at any time (first post, later post, D4, whatever, whenever) is a
null tell! Vote the person if they are scummy, and don't vote them just for the claim. It's merely adding NEUTRAL information to the rest of your read on them. If they are inspected and
then try to claim miller, then yeah, that's a pretty strong (but not 100%) scum tell. Use your brains.
(Thanks, I'll shut up about this for now.)