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Re: My fight against caffeine.
« Reply #150 on: November 13, 2012, 11:49:29 pm »

Well, you should. It sounds really unhealthy... Says the guy who spent the whole Summer with more than two beers each day.

I only drink cola while eating and I only drink tea and coffee if someone makes me some. No, I'm not that lazy. I just don't usually think "I should drink something different" by myself. I also hate how energy drinks taste (unless mixing it with vodka is an option)

Maybe you can just... drink water until there is no space left for sodas? I never had an addiction like that but thinking logically, if you had enough water than you need you wouldn't want to drink anything right?


Generally water is flavorless, and I crave flavor. So. Probably not.
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« Reply #151 on: November 14, 2012, 04:48:11 am »

Great, enjoy a lifetime of health problems and/or unnecessary expense from constantly indulging every frivolous whim.  You know if you don't constantly blast your taste buds with sugary overflavored crap you get back to the point where plain water tastes sweet and refreshing, right?  Oh, no, you probably don't...
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« Reply #152 on: November 14, 2012, 10:08:18 am »

Great, enjoy a lifetime of health problems and/or unnecessary expense from constantly indulging every frivolous whim.  You know if you don't constantly blast your taste buds with sugary overflavored crap you get back to the point where plain water tastes sweet and refreshing, right?  Oh, no, you probably don't...
I can vouch for this. Since I stopped drinking soda, I really honestly enjoy a glass of cold water or a small amount of unsweetened tea.

Heck just squeezing a lemon into my water is enough for me, if I am in a flavor craving day.
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« Reply #153 on: November 14, 2012, 10:37:46 am »

Wait, what? There are people who think water doesn't have a flavor? YOUR MIND IS CORRUPTED BY CONSUMERISM. Granted, it tastes flavorless compared to... pretty much every other drink.

When I was in my family's Summer house, the place I went had a lot of wells around. That place doesn't have any graveyards because when you dig, you'll just create a little pond. It's almost like there is nothing but water underground. Anyway, since there are a lot of wells around you don't need to buy a plastic bottle of water when you get thirsty. So you always end up drinking water from wells. Water is so easy to come by, you can live without running water.

That water... Oh man. That water is like the best drink in the world. Sometimes I wish to leave this damn metropolis just to taste that awesome mountain water. Sometimes, I feel like my stomatch is about the explode because of overdrinking but the water tastes to good I just want to keep drinking. You just don't feel like you drank enough. I can easily drink 1L in one go. I never buy water, let alone cola in that place.
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Re: My fight against caffeine.
« Reply #154 on: November 14, 2012, 11:26:14 pm »

Well, you should. It sounds really unhealthy... Says the guy who spent the whole Summer with more than two beers each day.

I only drink cola while eating and I only drink tea and coffee if someone makes me some. No, I'm not that lazy. I just don't usually think "I should drink something different" by myself. I also hate how energy drinks taste (unless mixing it with vodka is an option)

Maybe you can just... drink water until there is no space left for sodas? I never had an addiction like that but thinking logically, if you had enough water than you need you wouldn't want to drink anything right?
You misread my post. I'm thinking about re-integrating caffeine into my diet, to help me not facepunch customers during the holiday season. Since I've gone decaf, I've gotten really depressed. Maybe that's seasonal, maybe it's due to other things, but damn, I'm tired and depressed.
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« Reply #155 on: November 15, 2012, 04:05:38 am »

I actually never thought that caffein addiction exists. It sounds so... weird. But then again I spend some time in the US, and seemingly not many people drink tap water there, and soft drinks are cheaper then water in the shops. With 32oz/1l cups für 80 cents at soda fountains. I did drink tons of coffeinated drinks there, just because they are there, aviable and cheap. Here at home, with my own kitchen, it is mostly water, milk and proteinshakes. ^^
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« Reply #156 on: November 15, 2012, 09:58:22 am »

Well, you should. It sounds really unhealthy... Says the guy who spent the whole Summer with more than two beers each day.

I only drink cola while eating and I only drink tea and coffee if someone makes me some. No, I'm not that lazy. I just don't usually think "I should drink something different" by myself. I also hate how energy drinks taste (unless mixing it with vodka is an option)

Maybe you can just... drink water until there is no space left for sodas? I never had an addiction like that but thinking logically, if you had enough water than you need you wouldn't want to drink anything right?
You misread my post. I'm thinking about re-integrating caffeine into my diet, to help me not facepunch customers during the holiday season. Since I've gone decaf, I've gotten really depressed. Maybe that's seasonal, maybe it's due to other things, but damn, I'm tired and depressed.

Oh, sorry about that. Maybe completely cutting caffeine may be depressing but you should slowly reduce your caffeine intake at least.
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« Reply #157 on: November 15, 2012, 09:59:33 am »

Well, you should. It sounds really unhealthy... Says the guy who spent the whole Summer with more than two beers each day.

I only drink cola while eating and I only drink tea and coffee if someone makes me some. No, I'm not that lazy. I just don't usually think "I should drink something different" by myself. I also hate how energy drinks taste (unless mixing it with vodka is an option)

Maybe you can just... drink water until there is no space left for sodas? I never had an addiction like that but thinking logically, if you had enough water than you need you wouldn't want to drink anything right?
You misread my post. I'm thinking about re-integrating caffeine into my diet, to help me not facepunch customers during the holiday season. Since I've gone decaf, I've gotten really depressed. Maybe that's seasonal, maybe it's due to other things, but damn, I'm tired and depressed.

Well, the truth is, coffee is not gonna fix that IMHO.
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« Reply #158 on: November 16, 2012, 02:06:29 am »

I'd recommend staying off of it if you can, MZ, and running/yoga/meditation or something instead if you can manage.  I went cold-turkey off any/all caffeine (chocolate, tea, soda, coffee, decaf of all of the above, everything) at the beginning of this semester and though I do have cravings sometimes, especially on nights when I can only sleep 2 hours, it's one of the best decisions I've made in my life.  The exercise and good food keeps the depression away and honestly, I just feel so much better.  Life is still just as crappy, but it doesn't have booms and crashes and panic attacks and all that shit.

It's up to you, though =)
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Re: My fight against caffeine.
« Reply #159 on: November 16, 2012, 02:34:20 am »

I will say this: it's very practical not to be addicted, if for no other reason than that it allows you to actually get a bump out of the stuff when you need it. If you're addicted, you're generally pretty tolerant; caffeine will keep you at baseline energy. Most of the side-effects still happen if you take more than your usual amount, without as much an increase in the energy you get out of it, and you wind up dependent just to maintain it.

I haven't gone cold turkey, but I do a binge every two weeks. Shit gets done on those days. But, because of how closely that cycle follows tolerance fading away, I usually find myself going through a week of withdrawal afterward, and I do know that in the long term it's neither sustainable nor healthy. It's worth it for me, but I can't recommend it for everyone. What advice I do have, which you haven't exactly asked for, would be to try to work it back in with moderation in frequency, as well as in magnitude of a given dose, if you're going to do it.

Good food, some kind of exercise, lots of sleep, and the like can pick up a lot of the slack in keeping your spirits up, lifestyle permitting. All this said, I'm just providing my own perspective as a data point. The decision of what to do and how to do it, naturally, rests with you.

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« Reply #160 on: November 16, 2012, 02:58:37 am »

Generally water is flavorless, and I crave flavor. So. Probably not.

I find that flavor matters less to me than getting into a state of mind. Whenever I drink water, I just think back to a moment in my youth where I was incredibly tempted to start drinking out of what looked to me to be an ideal stream of water in the forest that I never had the nerve to drink out of. I guess this is why people like to dress up food and give them fancy names, expectations can colour your experience of something a lot.
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« Reply #161 on: November 16, 2012, 06:36:30 am »

Generally water is flavorless, and I crave flavor. So. Probably not.

I find that flavor matters less to me than getting into a state of mind. Whenever I drink water, I just think back to a moment in my youth where I was incredibly tempted to start drinking out of what looked to me to be an ideal stream of water in the forest that I never had the nerve to drink out of. I guess this is why people like to dress up food and give them fancy names, expectations can colour your experience of something a lot.

What an interesting sentiment. That really teaches a lot. You can't taste something by looking at it so your first impressions are only about what you see. Name of the food, and how the food looks.

I'll start a company where I will paint drinkable water into various colors and sell them! Would you like a glass of Royal Purple or a Crimson Rage?
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« Reply #162 on: May 17, 2013, 05:20:48 pm »

Because this is my thread, and it's relevant again, I'm necroing this thread again. RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!

The fight against the evil caffeine is back on track. Almost a week ago, my next-to-last semester ended. As of today, I have been caffeine free/soda free for four days. The first couple of days weren't bad, but then today I got a horrible migraine that put me out of commission for most of the day. Wolfeyez is also fighting the caffeinated scourge, and we'll lean on each other.
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« Reply #163 on: May 17, 2013, 05:25:19 pm »

I've been keeping steady at 1 soda a day for almost a month myself. If found its really hard to get to sleep at night and really hard to get out of bed in the morning.

The caffeine crash made it easier for me to get a full night of rest.
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« Reply #164 on: May 18, 2013, 01:18:20 pm »

I'll be joining you next week. With my semester over, I've just got a pile of travel this week before I can safely start decaf-ing.
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