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[siri]

i've been looking through some threads about taming, but i'm still not sure about this: captured siege mounts can not be tamed/are not meant to be tamed? i captured 5 cave dragons that came with a siege and they don't show up in the animal menu. the other captured mounts (mainly cave crocodiles) do, but disappear as soon as an animal trainer tames them. i found this listed as a bug. so what do i do with those cave dragons?

[Noobazzah]

Most useful uses: 1. butcher them to get valuable meat and bones or 2. release them on non-goblin attackers. Siege mounts seem to be always hostile, even if you "tame" them.

[siri]

thanks for the reply. but if i assign them to be butchered, won't my butcher release them from their cages and try to drag them to the butcher's shop? what the heck... i will just try it.

[Noobazzah]

Oh, right. Some large creature MAY escape that way, but I don't know if that applies to cave dragons. Construct their cages near your butcher's shop to be safe.

[toomanysecrets]

(*) Animals that have killed/attacked civ members no longer attack when trained

Can anyone confirm this? Haven't tried it myself.

[Noobazzah]

Hey, I actually can. I tamed a dragon that killed one of my woodcutters. I released it and it's not burning down my fort. It's been guarding my gates for one season already.

[Quietust]

(*) Animals that have killed/attacked civ members no longer attack when trained

Can anyone confirm this? Haven't tried it myself.

Supposedly, there are two distinct cases, and only one of them was fixed:
1. Wild animals (or megabeasts) that killed members of your fortress and became enemies of your civilization. The fix apparently covers these - it removes their "enemy" links and they become peaceful to your civ.
2. Siege mounts from enemy civilizations. The fix apparently does not cover these - rather than being explicit enemies of your civ, they are members of an enemy civilization and remain hostile.

[siri]

here's a trick question: how do i assign the cave dragons for butchering if they do not show up in the animal screen? selecting one with v does not work while it's in a cage.

[Noobazzah]

Well, you can lock it in a room lined with fortifications and kill it by shooting. Or melee it, if you're feeling lucky. Then it's corpse is available for butchering.

[GreatWyrmGold]

You need to tame animals to butcher them, anyways. It doesn't matter if they're still members of The Bugs of Murdering or whatever the goblin civ is, they'll still be dragged off. When a dwarf is draggin' a dragon, the dragon won't be draggin' along any kind of hostility--the dragged dragon will just docilely be dragged.

[Jacko13]

If you lock hostile captured beasties in a room will they mate and produce non hostile (though not tame) offspring?

[Noobazzah]

I don't think so.

[Sutremaine]

Invading creatures will give birth to young that are listed as Hostile but are considered enemies by the invaders. I'm not sure what the allegiance of the map-born creatures is.

[Garath]

wild creatures give birth too. It probably doesn't work if nest boxes are required though